
#SistersInLaw
Politicon brings the brilliant team of political and legal masterminds together for Politicon's #SistersInLaw.
Joyce Vance, Jill Wine-Banks, Barb McQuade, and Kimberly Atkins Stohr will pull back the curtain on how our government actually works, take on the corrupt, share their wisdom and give us their rulings on the latest in politics, law, and culture.
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Jun 28, 2025 • 1h 20min
242: Balaclavas Or Baklavas?
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Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to dive into the latest debates over citizenship and the implications of extraditions to foreign countries, focusing on the implications of removing due process. Then, the #Sisters discuss the Supreme Court’s recent decisions attacking the rule of law, looking at their effects on healthcare and the legally prescribed applications of MediCaid. They also break down the 1st Amendment restrictions being challenged by open-minded parents when it comes to the books available at our schools and libraries for LGBTQIA+ youth.
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Barb - Justice Department’s Bove Is Too Dangerous To Be A Judge
Jill - How To Get Involved
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Jun 21, 2025 • 1h 26min
241: Pretzel Logic
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Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to lay out the legal implications of the growing political violence in the country and call upon leaders in both parties to take a strong stand against it. Then, the #Sisters examine the alarming arrests of Democratic lawmakers and investigate whether their civil rights were violated, weighing what it says about the state of our democracy. They also discuss the ABA’s lawsuit against the Trump administration and explain how it seeks to preserve the independence of the legal system, as well as break down the slew of recent actions by the courts.
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Recommended By Jill: My Daughter Was at the Center of the Supreme Court Case on Trans Care. Our Hearts Are Broken
Political Violence Came to Minnesota. It Didn’t Start There.
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Jun 14, 2025 • 1h 23min
240: Troops On The Streets
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Kimberly Atkins Stohr hosts #SistersInLaw to explore the legality of Trump’s deployment of troops to Los Angeles amid the ongoing battle between immigrants and his take on executive powers. Then, the #Sisters dissect the administration's attacks on lawmakers attempting to defend the Constitution, explain what happens in the wake of their arrests, and how to resist extra-judicial orders targeting immigrants. They also share the latest news about Kilmar Abrego Garcia's deportation and the legal challenges he may face upon his return to the United States..
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From Joyce- The Rise of the Loyal and Legitimate Opposition
From Joyce - We are a democracy. But we can lose that democracy
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Jun 7, 2025 • 1h 9min
239: OpinionPalooza
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Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to break down the upcoming cases on the Supreme Court docket, focusing on their review of cases under Title VII, the pernicious effects of taking too long to issue rulings on critical issues in the Trump era, and the concept of DIG (dismissed as improvidently granted). Then, the #Sisters explain how EMTLA is protecting women from the aftermath of the Dobbs decision, the ongoing challenges faced by healthcare providers, and if the executive branch has gone too far. They also challenge the legality of Trump’s resurrected travel bans and highlight the importance of diversity in the success of our country.
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May 31, 2025 • 1h 10min
238: Pardons For The Rich & The Famous
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Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to castigate Trump for the questionable pardons he’s recently issued, lay out how they might represent a quid pro quo, and explain their potential illegality. Then, the #Sisters expose how MAGA is using the “Big Beautiful Bill” to neuter the judicial system, and discuss why the checks and balances that it steamrolls are integral to our system. They also delve into the latest developments in his administration’s attacks on universities, examining the rights involved, the limits of executive power, and what it means for the future of free thought and democracy.
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From Barb - The White House Pardon Office Is Open for Business
From Kim- What To Watch For In The Court’s Home Stretch
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May 24, 2025 • 1h 5min
237: Law & Order
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Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to share advice for 2025 graduates thinking about law and civic service and break down the country’s current approach to law enforcement and police powers under the current administration. Then, the #Sisters look at the charges against Rep. McIver after she took a stand against deportations, the ramifications of civil disobedience by a sitting M.O.C., and how the system will handle it. They also review how recent SCOTUS rulings affect Trump’s plans to rely on the use of executive powers..
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May 17, 2025 • 1h 12min
236: Snake On A Plane
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Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss the ethical and national security implications of Qatar gifting Trump a plane, and explain the proper way for public officials to handle foreign gifts to ensure its not a bribe. Then, they break down the arguments ostensibily being made to the SCOTUS concerning birthright citizenship, and why the case increasing seems like its about the legality of the nationwide injunctions acting as a check on Trump’s presidential powers. They also shed light on why Ed Martin is out as the interim U.S. Attorney for D.C. and Fox News Jeanine Pirro has taken his place.
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From Kim - The Supreme Court Could Swiftly End Trump’s Bid To End Birthright Citizenship
SCOTUS Argument Transcripts
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Jill Wine-Banks: Bluesky | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President | Just The Facts YouTube
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May 10, 2025 • 45min
235: Two’s Company
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Kimberly Atkins Stohr hosts #SistersInLaw to dissect the arguments in the SCOTUS decision affirming Trump’s ban on transgender service members in the military, explain the effects that decision has on those trying to serve their country, and castigate its approach to civil rights issues. Then, the #Sisters expose the duplicity in his administration's legal approach to some of the other critical cases challenging his authoritarian overreach and defending our democracy, and call upon the judiciary to assert its independence and stand up for our most important values.
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Jill Wine-Banks: Bluesky | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President | Just The Facts YouTube
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May 3, 2025 • 1h 3min
234: History Repeats Itself
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Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to look at the SCOTUS debate over whether the state can fund St. Isidore Catholic Virtual Online Charter School as a public school, the associated 1st Amendment issues, and if this represents a roll back of the separation of church and state. Then, the #Sisters expose the rot at the DOJ with stark criticism over its apparent abandonment of civil rights protections and Pam Bondi’s failure to prioritize the law over politics. They also highlight the rejection of the Alien Enemies Act by a Trump-appointed Texas judge, and investigate what it means for similar legal challenges.
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SCOTUS- St. Isidore Case
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Apr 26, 2025 • 51min
233: Are We There Yet?
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Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to emphasize the importance of the oath to the Constitution and explain the arrest of a WI judge charged with obstructing federal immigration enforcement in the context of federalism. Then, the #Sisters discuss the status of the ban on trans individuals in the military going through the courts and lay out the danger that exclusion and alienation of the people willing to serve poses for our armed forces. They also review the partial injunction blocking Trump’s EO on voting and delve into how his administration’s war on our democracy puts our most fundamental rights at risk..
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Joyce Vance: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Alabama Law | MSNBC | Civil Discourse Substack | Author of “Giving Up Is Unforgiveable”
Jill Wine-Banks: Bluesky | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President | Just The Facts YouTube
Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Bluesky | Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | The Gavel Newsletter | Justice By Design Podcast
Barb McQuade: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC | Attack From Within: How Disinformation Is Sabotaging America