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Politicon brings the brilliant team of political and legal masterminds together for Politicon's #SistersInLaw.
Joyce Vance, Jill Wine-Banks, Barb McQuade, and Kimberly Atkins Stohr will pull back the curtain on how our government actually works, take on the corrupt, share their wisdom and give us their rulings on the latest in politics, law, and culture.
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May 24, 2025 • 1h 5min
237: Law & Order
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Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to share advice for 2025 graduates thinking about law and civic service and break down the country’s current approach to law enforcement and police powers under the current administration. Then, the #Sisters look at the charges against Rep. McIver after she took a stand against deportations, the ramifications of civil disobedience by a sitting M.O.C., and how the system will handle it. They also review how recent SCOTUS rulings affect Trump’s plans to rely on the use of executive powers..
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May 17, 2025 • 1h 12min
236: Snake On A Plane
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Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss the ethical and national security implications of Qatar gifting Trump a plane, and explain the proper way for public officials to handle foreign gifts to ensure its not a bribe. Then, they break down the arguments ostensibily being made to the SCOTUS concerning birthright citizenship, and why the case increasing seems like its about the legality of the nationwide injunctions acting as a check on Trump’s presidential powers. They also shed light on why Ed Martin is out as the interim U.S. Attorney for D.C. and Fox News Jeanine Pirro has taken his place.
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May 10, 2025 • 57min
235: Two’s Company
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Kimberly Atkins Stohr hosts #SistersInLaw to dissect the arguments in the SCOTUS decision affirming Trump’s ban on transgender service members in the military, explain the effects that decision has on those trying to serve their country, and castigate its approach to civil rights issues. Then, the #Sisters expose the duplicity in his administration's legal approach to some of the other critical cases challenging his authoritarian overreach and defending our democracy, and call upon the judiciary to assert its independence and stand up for our most important values.
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May 3, 2025 • 1h 17min
234: History Repeats Itself
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Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to look at the SCOTUS debate over whether the state can fund St. Isidore Catholic Virtual Online Charter School as a public school, the associated 1st Amendment issues, and if this represents a roll back of the separation of church and state. Then, the #Sisters expose the rot at the DOJ with stark criticism over its apparent abandonment of civil rights protections and Pam Bondi’s failure to prioritize the law over politics. They also highlight the rejection of the Alien Enemies Act by a Trump-appointed Texas judge, and investigate what it means for similar legal challenges.
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Apr 26, 2025 • 1h 1min
233: Are We There Yet?
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Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to emphasize the importance of the oath to the Constitution and explain the arrest of a WI judge charged with obstructing federal immigration enforcement in the context of federalism. Then, the #Sisters discuss the status of the ban on trans individuals in the military going through the courts and lay out the danger that exclusion and alienation of the people willing to serve poses for our armed forces. They also review the partial injunction blocking Trump’s EO on voting and delve into how his administration’s war on our democracy puts our most fundamental rights at risk..
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Apr 19, 2025 • 1h 29min
232: Bend The Knee For King Trump
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Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to explain the battle the courts are waging against the Trump administration to defend immigrants' rights, the judicial branch’s essential role in maintaining the rule of law, and why protecting due process in deportation cases is so important. Then, the #Sisters discuss the challenge to birthright citizenship moving through the courts after Trump’s EO banning it, why it is such a critical part of our country’s formation, and how nationwide injunctions can keep the executive in check when it has run amok. They also fire off on MAGA’s war on the freedom of our universities, and look ahead to their fight to stay independent of federal control.
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From Barb - Score One for the AP — and America’s Free Press
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Apr 12, 2025 • 59min
231: Facilitate, Effectuate: Let's Call The Whole Thing Off
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Kimberly Atkins Stohr hosts #SistersInLaw to dive into the escalating due process challenges to Trump’s deportations, highlight the cases of people who have been targeted, examine the legality of his use of the Alien Enemies Act, and explain how the SCOTUS is ruling on these cases. Then, the #Sisters discuss the latest outrages sparked by Trump’s EO’s, lay out how his use of presidential power threatens democracy and the free press, and explain the legal challenges to them.. They also review a case concerning critical voting rights in Georgia and investigate whether A.G. Pam Bondi is up to the task of protecting them.
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Apr 5, 2025 • 53min
230: Tariff Terror
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Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss Trump’s tariffs, what gives him the power to regulate trade with both our friends and allies, as well as the limits of presidential power. Then, the #Sisters emphasize how nationwide protests are being used to make a statement against the current administration, the implications of the Insurrection Act, and the historical context of the Posse Comitatus Act. They also explain why the 22nd Amendment should prevent Trump from a 3rd term and highlight how we can use the rules of our democracy to prevent tyranny.
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Mar 29, 2025 • 58min
229: User Error 👊🇺🇸🔥
In a riveting discussion, the hosts delve into the significant implications of the SignalGate leak, cautioning about the dangers of mishandling classified information. They tackle Speaker Johnson's attempts to rein in federal judges and discuss Trump's ongoing battles with legal structures. A notable Supreme Court ruling banning ghost guns is examined, shedding light on evolving gun regulations. The hosts also share humorous stories about digital communication blunders, reminding listeners of the antics that come with technology-driven interactions.

Mar 22, 2025 • 1h
228: Mr.Bright Shiny Thing
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Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to call out the Trump administration for its use of the Alien Enemy Act to deport supposed gang members, explain its similarities to other efforts to dehumanize minorities and review the questionable reasoning and due process behind the removals. Then, the #Sisters expose MAGA’s war on the judges standing up for the Constitution, discuss how the judicial branch acts as a check on the executive, and determine if their attempts at impeachment are valid. They also tear into the DOD’s effort to remove BIPOC from its history and emphasize the importance of diversity to our civic health and national security.
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