

Math Therapy
Vanessa Vakharia, aka The Math Guru
Math Therapy explores the root causes of math trauma, and the empowering ways we can heal from it.  Each week host Vanessa Vakharia, aka The Math Guru, dives into what we get right and wrong about math education, and chats with some of today’s most inspiring and visionary minds working to make math more accessible, diverse, and fun for students of all ages. Whether you think you’re a "math person" or not, you’re about to find out that math people don’t actually exist – but the scars that math class left on many of us, definitely do. And don’t worry, no calculators or actual math were involved in the making of this podcast ;)
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Oct 30, 2025 • 27min
How to turn anxiety into empowerment
 Send us a text! (US messaging rates apply)Most episodes, Vanessa is chatting with colleagues about the root causes of math anxiety/trauma and exploring how math education can change to avoid causing them.But as long as math remains a 4-letter word for some, we need some practical coping strategies!  So today, Vanessa details 5 ways you can flip anxious math moments into empowering ones - for teachers, parents, and students.Learn how to:Trade control for curiosityAdmit what you don't knowNot be afraid to follow tangents in classCoregulate before you educateHeal your own math traumaOther episodes mentioned:How to find the "why" in math class w/ Mike FlynnWhy 1 + 1 isn't always 2 w/ Eugenia Cheng5 simple Math Therapy strategies for your classroomContact us:   Vanessa Vakharia: Instagram, TikTok, Email   Math Therapy: Text the Podcast   More Math Therapy:   Get the book: Corwin, Amazon   Audiobook: Audible, Spotify   Merch store: Shop here   

Oct 23, 2025 • 20min
An unfiltered debate about "natural ability"
 Send us a text! (US messaging rates apply)Sometimes an interview fires us up so much here at Math Therapy HQ, that we end up debriefing and debating it long after the guest has signed off - at which point producer David says to host Vanessa "we should have recorded THAT too!"So today, we actually did!  We kept the mics rolling after interviewing last week's guest, Dr. Raj Shah, resulting in a discussion on the mechanics of memory & aptitude and a spirited debate as David pushed back against Vanessa's war on the words "natural ability".  We would LOVE to have an expert in this field on the podcast, so if you have any suggestions let us know!And we want to know what you think as well - are some people born better at some things than others?!  Let us know below!Episodes referenced:Why math sucks and how to fix it w/ Raj ShahMath ed needs more conversations like this w/ Pam HarrisContact us:   Vanessa Vakharia: Instagram, TikTok, Email   Math Therapy: Text the Podcast   More Math Therapy:   Get the book: Corwin, Amazon   Audiobook: Audible, Spotify   Merch store: Shop here   

Oct 16, 2025 • 54min
Why math sucks and how to fix it w/ Raj Shah
 Send us a text! (US messaging rates apply)What is memory? Are different brains good at memorizing different things (like math vs music)? Is memorization even a good way to learn? Why don’t we teach math like we teach reading? Why do we love puzzles and escape rooms but hate math class? Is it possible to make math learning fun?? Will Vanessa ever learn how to explain how to text the podcast?!?! How does this all relate to math trauma?!?!?!Ok.  Deep breaths.  Today's ep with Dr. Raj Shah was a rollercoaster, as every question spawned 10 more!  Connecting the big thorny debates of math education with the humanity and complexity of what students are actually experiencing in their minds and bodies, Vanessa and Raj laughed, cried, and one of them even broke out into song (probably not the one you expected!)If you need a triple shot of inspiration, hope, and laughter today, this episode is for you.Show notes:Raj’s TED Talk "Using Video Game Principles to Improve Math Scores"Ted Lasso scene "Be curious, not judgmental"All of Me by John LegendGood Inside by Becky KennedyAnnie Fetter “Notice and Wonder”Math Therapy S5E06: Redefining Success Send us your 3 superpowers!About Raj: (Website, LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook)Dr. Raj Shah is the founder of Math Plus Academy, a founding member of the Global Math Project, and a leading voice in making math irresistible. Raj is passionate about creating math experiences that feel joyful and accessible, drawing inspiration from everything from video game design to human psychology. Beyond math, Raj is deeply interested in spirituality and therapy, seeing connections between how we approach math, how we heal shame, and how we make sense of the world.Contact us:   Vanessa Vakharia: Instagram, TikTok, Email   Math Therapy: Text the Podcast   More Math Therapy:   Get the book: Corwin, Amazon   Audiobook: Audible, Spotify   Merch store: Shop here   

Oct 9, 2025 • 46min
Math ed needs more conversations like this w/ Pam Harris
 Send us a text! (US messaging rates apply)Today's ep ended up in a different place than Vanessa expected when she first sat down to chat with Pam Harris, founder of Math Is Figureoutable. Their first real interaction was on the DebateMath Podcast; Pam insisted that learning algorithms/shortcuts can actually hold students back from true learning, while Vanessa advocated for kids to learn however works for them.Often, that's where it ends.  Worse, especially in the "everyone yell at each other" media landscape, the conversation never begins!  Which makes today's episode so refreshing - a debate that was more philosophical than ideological. Pam and Vanessa had the time to really go into depth about what they disagree on and where they see eye to eye ... spoiler alert, they're actually pretty aligned!Links discussed:Math Is Figureoutable PodcastFree resource download: mathisfigureoutable/big#MathStratChatVanessa & Pam debate algorithms on the DebateMath PodcastOutliers by Malcolm GladwellAbout Pam: (Website, LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook)Pam Harris is a leading math educator, author, and speaker best known for her work on making math figure-out-able. Through her books, podcast, and teaching, she helps classrooms move away from rote memorization and answer-getting, and toward math as something students can sense-make, reason through, and truly understand. She’s passionate about showing that math isn’t about tricks or steps—it’s about thinking, starting with the knowledge students already bring to the table.Contact us:   Vanessa Vakharia: Instagram, TikTok, Email   Math Therapy: Text the Podcast   More Math Therapy:   Get the book: Corwin, Amazon   Audiobook: Audible, Spotify   Merch store: Shop here   

Oct 2, 2025 • 37min
The Comment Section w/ Mike Flynn
 Send us a text! (US messaging rates apply)We're trying something new this week!  Last week's ep with Mike Flynn dove into some very murky debate waters: do students need to know the "why" of what their learning in order to truly understand material, or is it fine for them to just memorize things as long as they get the answers?  (If you missed, scroll back in your feed or click here to catch up.)But the real drama took place over on TikTok, where Vanessa posted a clip from the ep and some viewers engaged in very polite and erudite discussion in the comments ... jk, people LOST THEIR MINDS.  But there were also a ton of great points that are often debated in math ed, so we invited Mike back on this week to respond to some comments real-time and clarify some of what he and Vanessa meant last week.  Enjoy - and either way, you know where to let us know what you think ;) Links discussed:How to find the "why" in math class w/ Mike Flynn (last week's ep)The TikTok that started it allLost S2E01 - *why* was Desmond typing the numbers?!Connect with Mike Flynn: Website, TikTok, InstagramContact us:   Vanessa Vakharia: Instagram, TikTok, Email   Math Therapy: Text the Podcast   More Math Therapy:   Get the book: Corwin, Amazon   Audiobook: Audible, Spotify   Merch store: Shop here   

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Sep 25, 2025 • 49min
How to find the "why" in math class w/ Mike Flynn
 In this engaging discussion, Mike Flynn, an international math educator and founder of Flynn Education, shares his journey from hating math to advocating for deeper understanding. He emphasizes the importance of making mistakes and shifting focus from finding the right answer to fostering flexible thinking. Mike provides strategies to combat math anxiety and highlights how procedural teaching can create trauma. He encourages embracing math as a thinking process and suggests implementing Open Middle tasks to boost problem-solving skills. 

Sep 18, 2025 • 30min
Exclusive: Math Therapy audiobook sample for our listeners!
 Send us a text! (US messaging rates apply)If you follow Vanessa on Instagram, you know the rollercoaster she went on to record the audiobook version of Math Therapy ... well, the hard work / literal sweat & tears paid off because it is now out!  You can find it on Audible/Amazon right now, and if you have never used Audible you can likely get it for a free credit with their new trial offer. (It will be on Spotify soon as well, let us know if there's any other platform it should be added to.)We wanted to share an exclusive sample with our listeners, so this week's episode features the entire preface, which is also a great introduction to Vanessa's story and how she came up with Math Therapy in the first place!  And if you do end up getting the full audiobook please leave a rating/review and share it with a friend ❤️Shop the Math Therapy collection:paperback/ebookaudiobook (US, Can, UK, Aus, Germany, or global)merch storeContact us:   Vanessa Vakharia: Instagram, TikTok, Email   Math Therapy: Text the Podcast   More Math Therapy:   Get the book: Corwin, Amazon   Audiobook: Audible, Spotify   Merch store: Shop here   

Sep 11, 2025 • 50min
Why 1 + 1 isn't always 2 w/ Eugenia Cheng
 Send us a text! (US messaging rates apply)Have you ever felt like it's impossible to win an argument with someone, or even simply see eye to eye on anything?  On today's episode, mathematician Eugenia Cheng joins Vanessa to challenge the black-and-white thinking that often defines our world - especially in math class.3 Key Topics Discussed:Why seemingly silly questions like "is math real?" or "when does 1 + 1 not equal 2?" are both valid and valuableHow Eugenia works to help people overcome math trauma the way she overcame ... sports trauma!How emphasizing context, creativity, and nuance - not just right or wrong answers - can help students develop more flexible and creative thinkingShow notes:Eugenia on The Late Show with Stephen ColbertEugenia discussing viral "Is Math Real" TikTok on CBC RadioAbout Eugenia Cheng: (Website, Twitter)Dr Eugenia Cheng is a mathematician, educator, author, public speaker, columnist, concert pianist, composer and artist. Alongside her research and undergraduate teaching, her aim is to rid the world of “math phobia”.  Her first popular math book, How to Bake Pi, was published by Profile (UK)/Basic Books (US) in 2015 to widespread acclaim including from the New York Times, National Geographic, Scientific American, and she was interviewed around the world including on the BBC, NPR and The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.Contact us:   Vanessa Vakharia: Instagram, TikTok, Email   Math Therapy: Text the Podcast   More Math Therapy:   Get the book: Corwin, Amazon   Audiobook: Audible, Spotify   Merch store: Shop here   

Sep 4, 2025 • 29min
5 simple Math Therapy strategies for your classroom (weekly podcast launch!)
 Send us a text! (US messaging rates apply)Today we celebrate back to school week with ... the official launch of Math Therapy as a weekly podcast!  On today's episode, Vanessa catches you up on everything going on in Math Therapy-land, and shares 5 very simple and quick strategies that teachers can employ to make this year's classroom more empowering - both for students and themselves.5 low-lift Math Therapy strategies for the new school year:Watch your facial expressionsWatch your languageAsk students about their thinking processGet on your student's level - literallyAsk students about their "math story"Contact us:   Vanessa Vakharia: Instagram, TikTok, Email   Math Therapy: Text the Podcast   More Math Therapy:   Get the book: Corwin, Amazon   Audiobook: Audible, Spotify   Merch store: Shop here   

Jun 26, 2025 • 57min
How Math Therapy changed my entire life w/ Charizma Laughton
 Send us a text! (US messaging rates apply)As long as Charizma Laughton can remember, her entire life was defined by a singular identity: she's bad at math, because she's not smart.  This self-image was rooted in deeply traumatic math class experiences that completely dismantled her self-confidence and made her feel like she was simply not capable of ... anything.BUT THEN: she and Vanessa met after a yoga class in Bali recently, and after a mere two weeks of math therapy sessions together, Charizma had done a complete 180 (see what we did there?) and now has an entirely new outlook on not just math but on her entire life!  And she was brave and courageous enough to come on the podcast to tell the whole story.Charizma's turbulent relationship with math will sound familiar, but what makes this episode one of a kind is her openness to rewriting her narratives, her commitment to confronting her fears, and the joy in her voice as she triumphantly declares herself not just a math person but a full-on mathematician!Send this episode to the anyone in your life that recoils in fear at the word "math" - if Charizma can rewrite her story, anyone can.Contact us:   Vanessa Vakharia: Instagram, TikTok, Email   Math Therapy: Text the Podcast   More Math Therapy:   Get the book: Corwin, Amazon   Audiobook: Audible, Spotify   Merch store: Shop here   


