

DePINed podcast
Fluence
DePINed is a podcast focused on the ecosystem of decentralized physical networks. DePIN companies and protocols crowdsource infrastructure such as WiFi hot spots, computer servers and even cars and, using crypto incentives, create cohesive, global networks from thousands of different providers. This podcast explores all of the use cases launching in this sector as well as the key players in financing and explaining this growing sector which will reshape a broad array of industries. Hosted by Tom Trowbridge, co-founder of Fluence, previously co-founder and president at Hedera Hashgraph.
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Jul 6, 2024 • 59min
Micha Benoliel: Nodle – Crowdsourcing Data and Privacy-First Decentralized Networks (#13)
In this episode of DePINed Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge talks to Micha Anthenor Benoliel, founder of Nodle. The Nodle network connects the world by using smartphones as nodes to create a digital trust network for social good.
The main topics discussed include:
- Nodle's first app leverages Bluetooth in smartphones to locate assets and crowdsource data;
- An app he previously created coordinated the Umbrella Movement in Hong Kong, used by hundreds of thousands;
- Micha Anthenor Benoliel discusses the Click app's potential in a $100 billion market for authenticating content and documents;
- Partnerships with companies like Vivendi emphasize decentralized communication for privacy and resilience;
- The token model includes revenue splits and community-decided incentives;
- Micha mentions projects like ZK Sync and HiveMapper and predicts Bitcoin could reach $80K to $100K by year-end;
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/micha-anthenor-benoliel-nodle-network-depined-podcast-13/id1765217356?i=1000666831475
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Website: https://depined.xyz/
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

Jun 29, 2024 • 57min
Alex Rawitz: DIMO – Redefining Automotive Data for Smarter Driving (#12)
In this episode of DePINed Podcast co-founder Tom Trowbridge gets a conversation with Alex Rawitz, he co-founder of DIMO, a platform focused on leveraging vehicle data to create better automotive services and experiences for drivers.
Key discussion topics include:
- The definition of DePIN and the rapid changes happening in the automotive industry
- The importance of new technology like DIMO in making an impact in the industry
- The collection and monetization of data in the automotive sector, highlighting the potential benefits of DIMO's approach
- How large companies collect and analyze our data to enhance and tailor their services, ultimately aiming to improve our daily lives
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/alex-rawitz-dimo-ecosystem-depined-podcast-12/id1765217356?i=1000666831328
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Website: https://depined.xyz/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/depined-podcast
Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

Jun 20, 2024 • 56min
Ariel Seidman: Hivemapper – Decentralizing Mapping with Real-Time Data Collection (#11)
In this episode of DePINed Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge gets a conversation with Ariel Seidman, the CEO and co-founder of Hivemapper, a decentralized mapping platform. Hivemapper uses a network of dashcam-equipped drivers to collect real-time data, aiming to create up-to-date maps that surpass traditional services like Google Maps.
Key discussion topics include:
- Discussion on the definition of DePIN in the context of projects like HiveMapper
- Exploration of how certain factors coming together created opportunities for projects in the DePIN industry
- Detailed insights into the operations and success of HiveMapper, a prominent project within the DePIN industry
- Analysis of the role of crypto economics in shaping projects such as HiveMapper and their sustainability over time
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/ariel-seidman-hivemapper-network-depined-podcast-11/id1765217356?i=1000666831476
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Learn more about Hivemapper: https://hivemapper.com/explorer
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Website: https://depined.xyz/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/depined-podcast
Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

Jun 14, 2024 • 1h 7min
Greg Osuri: Akash – Decentralizing Cloud Computing and Revolutionizing GPU Access (#10)
In this episode of DePINed Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge gets a conversation with Greg Osuri, the founder and CEO of Akash Network, a decentralized cloud computing platform that leverages blockchain technology to provide cloud services.
Key discussion topics include:
- Defining DePIN as a mechanism leveraging decentralization to enhance resource allocation
- Akash as the world's pioneering supercloud
- The progression of hardware deployment within DePIN projects
- Granularity in selecting data centers, including their classification based on bandwidth and other metrics
- Akash's value proposition regarding GPUs: increased availability and reduced pricing
- Nvidia's strategic interest in maintaining a fragmented GPU market.
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/greg-osuri-akash-network-depined-podcast-10/id1765217356?i=1000666831327
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Website: https://depined.xyz/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/depined-podcast
Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

Jun 12, 2024 • 49min
Manolis Nikiforakis: WeatherXM – Building a Global Decentralized Weather Network (#9)
In this episode of DePINed Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge gets a conversation with Manolis Nikiforakis, the co-founder and CEO of WeatherXM, a company that specializes in weather-related technology solutions aimed at improving the impact of weather on people's lives and the environment.
Key discussion topics include:
- Weather XM's community-driven initiative to establish a global weather station network, addressing data gaps in underserved regions
- Overview of weather stations and deployment strategies
- Manolis' background in software engineering, hardware, and kitesurfing
- Transition from industrial IoT solutions with weather analytics to the DePIN space
- Emphasis on developing weather infrastructure in the Global South.
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/manolis-nikiforakis-weatherxm-depined-podcast-9/id1765217356?i=1000666831412
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Website: https://depined.xyz/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/depined-podcast
Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

May 30, 2024 • 51min
Alec Wilson: Spexi – Decentralized Transforming Geospatial Data with Drones (#8)
In this episode of DePINed Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge gets a conversation with Alec Wilson, the CCO of Spexi Geospatial Inc., a Canadian drone software company specializing in geospatial data acquisition and processing.
The key topics they discuss include:
- Why doesn't drone quality imagery exist at scale, and why is drone imagery superior
- Alec's early career in aviation as a commercial helicopter pilot
- Spexi's аmbitious рroject: capturing urban areas across British Columbia
- Rewards system for pilots
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/alec-wilson-drone-technology-innovation-depined-podcast-8/id1765217356?i=1000666831411
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Website: https://depined.xyz/
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

May 24, 2024 • 1h 9min
Richard DeVaul: XNet – Decentralizing Mobile Networks with Blockchain (#7)
In this episode of DePINed Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge gets to chat with Richard DeVaul, the CEO of XNet, a blockchain-powered mobile carrier that leverages the Citizens Broadband Radio Service (CBRS) and carrier-grade Wi-Fi to provide network connectivity.
The key topics they discuss include:
- XNet, a communication platform aimed at disrupting the early DePIN sectors
- Richard's background with a PhD at MIT, and building global scale networks at Apple and Google
- How to build XNet from the start as a carrier grade network from the ground up
- XNet's utility token and rewards
- Wanting to support projects that actually drive value back to communities
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/richard-devaul-crowdsourced-connectivity-depined-podcast/id1765217356?i=1000666831555
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Website: https://depined.xyz/
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

May 16, 2024 • 60min
Tushar Jain: Multicoin Capital – Investing in DePIN and the Future of Compute (#6)
In this episode of DePINed, Tom Trowbridge, co-founder of Fluence, talks with Tushar Jain, Managing Partner at Multicoin Capital, a venture capital firm that invests in cryptocurrencies and blockchain companies. He also co-founded ePatientFinder, a health IT startup that was later acquired by Elligo Health Research.
They talk about:
- Early investments in DePIN projects by Multicoin Capital
- Regulatory challenges and the need for adaptation in capital markets policies
- Prediction of significant growth in demand for compute in the next decade
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/tushar-jain-multicoin-capital-depined-podcast-6/id1765217356?i=1000666831413
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Learn more about Multicoin Capital: https://multicoin.capital/
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Website: https://depined.xyz/
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

May 9, 2024 • 45min
Ryan John King: FOAM – Decentralized Proof of Location for the Physical World (#5)
In this episode of DePINed Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge gets to chat with Ryan John King, a founder of FOAM -- spatial protocol for the Ethereum blockchain that provides secure Proof of Location services for users and autonomous agents.
They discuss:
• How Foam’s technology bridges the gap between the blockchain and the physical world;
• The importance of crowdsourced infrastructure and its integration with crypto economics;
• Challenges and solutions around location spoofing and how Foam’s decentralized system prevents it;
• Insights into Foam's beta testing and scaling strategies, including the role of community participation;
• The vision for Foam’s future in creating secure, decentralized networks that offer alternatives to traditional GPS systems.
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/ryan-john-king-proof-of-location-depined-podcast-5/id1765217356?i=1000666831477
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FOAM website: https://www.foam.space/
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Website: https://depined.xyz/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/depined-podcast
Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

May 4, 2024 • 53min
Robert Koschig: 1kx – Tokenomics and Incentives Shaping DePIN Networks (#4)
In this episode Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge talks to Robert Koschig, a researcher at 1kx, an early-stage crypto investment firm.
Some of the topics they cover include:
- Defining DePIN;
- Robert’s research focus on tokenomics and DePIN;
- How much does it cost to run a DePIN network;
- Design incentives in DePIN infrastructures;
- Supply and demand side in DePIN;
- Robert’s journey into the crypto ecosystem, and his experience in LMM data science, machine learning models and DeFi;
- Common problems that crypto project founders make or areas they overlook.
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/robert-koschig-depin-tokenomics-depined-podcast-4/id1765217356?i=1000666831633
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Website: https://depined.xyz/
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.