
DePINed podcast
DePINed is a podcast focused on the ecosystem of decentralized physical networks. DePIN companies and protocols crowdsource infrastructure such as WiFi hot spots, computer servers and even cars and, using crypto incentives, create cohesive, global networks from thousands of different providers. This podcast explores all of the use cases launching in this sector as well as the key players in financing and explaining this growing sector which will reshape a broad array of industries. Hosted by Tom Trowbridge, co-founder of Fluence, previously co-founder and president at Hedera Hashgraph.
Latest episodes

May 24, 2024 • 1h 9min
Richard DeVaul: XNet – Decentralizing Mobile Networks with Blockchain (#7)
In this episode of DePINed Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge gets to chat with Richard DeVaul, the CEO of XNet, a blockchain-powered mobile carrier that leverages the Citizens Broadband Radio Service (CBRS) and carrier-grade Wi-Fi to provide network connectivity.
The key topics they discuss include:
- XNet, a communication platform aimed at disrupting the early DePIN sectors
- Richard's background with a PhD at MIT, and building global scale networks at Apple and Google
- How to build XNet from the start as a carrier grade network from the ground up
- XNet's utility token and rewards
- Wanting to support projects that actually drive value back to communities
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/richard-devaul-crowdsourced-connectivity-depined-podcast/id1765217356?i=1000666831555
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

May 16, 2024 • 60min
Tushar Jain: Multicoin Capital – Investing in DePIN and the Future of Compute (#6)
In this episode of DePINed, Tom Trowbridge, co-founder of Fluence, talks with Tushar Jain, Managing Partner at Multicoin Capital, a venture capital firm that invests in cryptocurrencies and blockchain companies. He also co-founded ePatientFinder, a health IT startup that was later acquired by Elligo Health Research.
They talk about:
- Early investments in DePIN projects by Multicoin Capital
- Regulatory challenges and the need for adaptation in capital markets policies
- Prediction of significant growth in demand for compute in the next decade
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/tushar-jain-multicoin-capital-depined-podcast-6/id1765217356?i=1000666831413
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

May 9, 2024 • 45min
Ryan John King: FOAM – Decentralized Proof of Location for the Physical World (#5)
In this episode of DePINed Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge gets to chat with Ryan John King, a founder of FOAM -- spatial protocol for the Ethereum blockchain that provides secure Proof of Location services for users and autonomous agents.
They discuss:
• How Foam’s technology bridges the gap between the blockchain and the physical world;
• The importance of crowdsourced infrastructure and its integration with crypto economics;
• Challenges and solutions around location spoofing and how Foam’s decentralized system prevents it;
• Insights into Foam's beta testing and scaling strategies, including the role of community participation;
• The vision for Foam’s future in creating secure, decentralized networks that offer alternatives to traditional GPS systems.
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/ryan-john-king-proof-of-location-depined-podcast-5/id1765217356?i=1000666831477
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

May 4, 2024 • 53min
Robert Koschig: 1kx – Tokenomics and Incentives Shaping DePIN Networks (#4)
In this episode Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge talks to Robert Koschig, a researcher at 1kx, an early-stage crypto investment firm.
Some of the topics they cover include:
- Defining DePIN;
- Robert’s research focus on tokenomics and DePIN;
- How much does it cost to run a DePIN network;
- Design incentives in DePIN infrastructures;
- Supply and demand side in DePIN;
- Robert’s journey into the crypto ecosystem, and his experience in LMM data science, machine learning models and DeFi;
- Common problems that crypto project founders make or areas they overlook.
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/robert-koschig-depin-tokenomics-depined-podcast-4/id1765217356?i=1000666831633
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Website: https://depined.xyz/
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

Apr 23, 2024 • 46min
Vuk Vukoje: web3mine – Building Core Infrastructure for the DePIN Ecosystem (#3)
In this episode, Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge talks to Vuk Vukoje, Founder of web3mine.
Some of the topics they cover include:
- How Vuk is building core infrastructure that will help facilitate and enable the entire DePIN sector
- Defining DePIN as a crowdsourced infrastructure that's bound to be gathered in a common network by a software layer with economics
- Liquid staking and how to create sustainable DePIN economies
- Business aspects of storage provision within DePIN
- Creating and maintaining liquidity in staking protocols
- The importance of focusing on problem-solving within the blockchain ecosystem
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/vuk-vukoje-depin-liquid-staking-depined-podcast-3/id1765217356?i=1000666831516
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice!

Apr 12, 2024 • 54min
David Vorick: Glow – Decentralizing Solar Energy with DePIN (#2)
In this episode Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge talks to David Vorick, CEO and Founder of Glow.
Some of the topics they cover include:
- Glow and how it took inspiration from Bitcoin, which David considers a DePIN project;
- how Glow helps make solar farm more profitable and cheaper to operate;
- how Glow takes carbon credit donations and token rewards and distribute them to solar farm owners;
- the GLO community goals of scaling up to the point where GLO is actually shifting the entire economy onto solar and away from specifically coal, natural gas, and diesel;
- the approaches to creating DePIN infrastructures, building and scaling decentralised infrastructure
- the importance of creating great core systems with a rich ecosystem of developers;
And more!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/david-vorick-driving-renewable-energy-incentives-with/id1765217356?i=1000666831556
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice.

Apr 11, 2024 • 42min
Doug Petkanics: Livepeer – Decentralizing Video Streaming for the Future of AI (#1)
In the first episode of dePINed podcast, Fluence co-founder Tom Trowbridge talks to Doug Petkanics, CEO and Founder at Livepeer.
Some of the topics they cover include:
- Defining DePIN;
- How Doug got into the open source software and DePIN space;
- What is Livepeer, how it works and what makes it unique;
- The benefits and unique opportunities decentralisation and open stack software brings into video;
- How can the decentralised network be cheaper than traditional cloud platforms;
- Livepeer adoption journey;
- Being a mission driver founder;
- Opportunities for DePIN to play a critical role in the AI movement.
Thanks for watching!
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ge/podcast/exploring-depin-with-doug-petkanics-from-livepeer/id1765217356?i=1000666831414
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Disclaimer: The commentary in this podcast is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute financial, investment, tax, legal or accounting advice!