

The Bitcoin Standard Podcast
Dr. Saifedean Ammous
Saifedean's The Bitcoin Standard Podcast is the place to discuss Bitcoin and economics from the Austrian school's perspective. Listen to the weekly saifedean.com discussion seminar, where a group of learners from all over the world discuss the website's online courses, as well as a wide variety of economic, political, and social issues, and occasionally host special guests for the discussion. The podcast also includes the most interesting interviews conducted with Saifedean on other shows.
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Oct 4, 2022 • 1h 59min
133. Bitcoin Banks with Caitlin Long
Wall Street veteran and founder of Custodia Bank Caitlin Long joins us to discuss bitcoin banks, leverage and the macroeconomy. She explains how new “dollar and digital asset banks” like Custodia Bank are helping to bridge the gap between bitcoin and the US dollar, and why she has chosen to seek regulation rather than bypass it. She and Saifedean discuss financial leverage, its impact on bitcoin’s price and why people should be wary of companies promising risk-free yield on bitcoin. The conversation also covers recent developments in financial markets, including rising bond yields and the fall in the British pound. In the Q&A, Caitlin answers questions on Chinese inflation, stablecoin velocity and whether the path to hyperbitcoinization will be orderly.ReferencesCaitlin Forbes article introducing dollar and digital asset banks.The Institutional Risk Analyst article on The Narrow Bank case against the Federal Reserve.Explanation of Wyoming Special Purpose Depository Institutions by government of Wyoming.Jameson Lopp tweet about not helping people to buy bitcoin.Saifedean and Tone Vays debate Celsius’ business model with Alex Mashinsky in 2019.Nik Bhatia article explaining the concept of the Lightning Network Reference Rate (risk-free rate).Mises Wiki article on the Plaza Accord and relationship to monetary expansion in Japan.When Money Dies by Adam FergussonSee Human Action Chapter XXXI, 2. The Interventionist Aspect of Legal Tender Legislation, for a discussion of deflationary policy in Great Britain following inflationary war spending.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard. See chapter 5 Fiat Balances: Universal debt slavery for a discussion of The Narrow Bank.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard. Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming book, Principles of Economics, by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Sep 26, 2022 • 1h 56min
132. Expat Life with Mikkel Thorup
Mikkel Thorup, founder and CEO of Expat Money, joins us to make the case for becoming an expat. He discusses why people should consider moving their life offshore, which jurisdictions are most appealing and strategies listeners can pursue to mitigate tax obligations. Mikkel shares practical tips on finding quality healthcare, educating children, travelling comfortably and managing international finances. He also outlines his views on flag theory, the importance of geographical diversity in investment and the libertarian values that motivate him.ResourcesSaifedean’s viral tweet on "free" healthcare in Canada.Website of Mikkel’s Expat International School of Freedom and Entrepreneurship.Ontario Premier Doug Ford teaches people how to make cheesecake during lockdown.The Habit of Thought: From Socratic Seminars to Socratic Practice by Michael StrongWebsite of Mikkel’s Expat Money Summit taking place in November. Mikkel’s recommended charter flight service Villiers Jets.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Sep 20, 2022 • 1h 20min
131. Adventures in Late Stage Fiat: Russia with Lana Nagornaia
How have Russians dealt with being getting kicked off the fiat dollar network? We are joined by Russian economist and investment advisor Lana Nagornaia to discuss the monetary ramifications of US sanctions from a Russian perspective. Why has the rouble risen versus the dollar in spite of sanctions? Can this be expected to last, or will it reverse? What alternatives are Russians using for trading with the rest of the world? Will Russia switch to a gold standard? Can it trade gold internationally while sanctioned by the global gold market? Can a Chinese-Russian fiat alternative to the dollar succeed? Lana also explains how life in Russia has changed since the outbreak of war, how global energy markets have been affected and how bitcoin could play a role in bringing about a world of sanction-free trade. ReferencesLana Invest official website.Lana on Instagram.London Bullion Market Association suspends Russian gold and silver refiners.Moscow Times article on how Russian gold is being rerouted to China.Al Jazeera article on unofficial ban on Russian gold. Reuters article on Russians rushing to buy Chinese yuan.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Sep 12, 2022 • 34min
130. The Fiat Standard: Unwritten Chapters
In this seminar, Saifedean discusses ideas for potential chapters he considered for, but did not end up including in The Fiat Standard. The analytical framework of the book, examining the impact of fiat money through the destruction of savings, raising time preference, & allowing endless government finance, can be applied to many topics, and in this seminar Saifedean and the attendees explore some ideas. How does fiat affect medicine and the medical establishment and modern medicine? What is the impact on pharmaceutical drugs? What is the impact on law? How has it affected art?ReferencesJörg Guido Hülsmann’s book The Ethics of Money Production.The Bitcoin Standard Podcast episode with James Todaro on Fiat Medicine.The Bitcoin Standard Podcast episode with Stephen Chow: Art on The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Sep 5, 2022 • 1h 47min
129. Bitcoin Venture Capital with Alyse Killeen
Managing Partner of Stillmark, Alyse Killeen, joins us to discuss investing in bitcoin companies. She explains why Stillmark invests in "bitcoin only" companies, what she looks for in bitcoin startups and how venture capital in the bitcoin industry differs from traditional markets. She and Saifedean also discuss how bitcoin investing is long-term focused whereas token VCs have a new short-term model taking advantage of clueless retail with false narratives. Alyse explains how this long-term focus protects bitcoin VCs from short-term volatility, such as the recent spate of high-profile failures in the altcoin space. In the Q&A, Alyse answers questions on industry trends, the mindset of bitcoin founders and bitcoin adoption in El Salvador.ReferencesAlyse on Twitter.Stillmark official website.Lightning Labs explainer on Taro.Article about the sanctioning of Tordano Cash by the US Treasury.Paolo Ardoino appearance on The Bitcoin Standard Podcast.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Aug 30, 2022 • 1h 43min
128. Low Time Preference Football with Kieran Gibbs
Former England international football player Kieran Gibbs joins us to discuss his bitcoin journey, football career, and thoughts on time preference. Find out how he was orange-pilled by team-mate Hal Robson Kanu, why he chose to receive 50% of his salary in bitcoin, how bitcoin has changed him and lowered his time preference, and how he introduces bitcoin to his athlete friends. Kieran also compares playing the low time preference football style of Arsenal's Arsène Wenger with the high time preference style of Sam Allardyce at West Brom, and how Keynesian central banking is analogous to 8 year old playing football. We also compare the economics of the open pyramid structure of the Premier League with the US MLS franchise system. Kieran also discusses how he could integrate bitcoin into his planned football academy, reveals the best players he has played with and against, and provides predictions for the upcoming World Cup.ResourcesKieran on Twitter.IMF chair Kristalina Georgieva likens central bankers to eight year olds playing football.Liverpool draw 4-4 with Arsenal at Anfield in 2008 highlights.Liverpool beat Arsenal 5-1 in 2018 highlights.Highlights of Kieran's time at ArsenalSaifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Aug 23, 2022 • 2h 24min
127. Why We Get Sick with Dr Benjamin Bikman
Are the world's most common illnesses caused by insulin resistance? In this episode, Dr Benjamin Bikman joins us to discuss his best-selling book “Why We Get Sick”. He argues that insulin resistance is at the heart of the world's most prevalent diseases and that poor economic incentives have caused scientists to neglect this phenomenon to pursue unproductive avenues of research. Dr Bikman explains how insulin resistance impacts conditions ranging from diabetes to Alzheimer’s and offers practical advice for listeners looking to improve their health. He also shares his views on broader issues such as the health impact of seed oils and sun exposure.ReferencesDr Bikman on Twitter.Why We Get Sick on Amazon.Alan D. Sokal's hoax submission to journal Social Text: "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity."Ontario Premier Doug Ford teaches people how to make cheesecake during Canada's lockdowns.Article showing that data supporting the most commonly held theory of Alzheimer’s disease is fabricated.The Bitcoin Standard Podcast episode with Nina Teicholz.The Bitcoin Standard Podcast episode with P.D. Mangan.Bright Line Eating: The Science of Living Happy, Thin & Free by Susan Thompson.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here. Visit saifedean.com/meat to find out more about Saifedean’s experience following the carnivore diet.

Aug 16, 2022 • 2h 16min
126. Staying Humble & Stacking Sats with Matt Odell
BTC veteran Matt Odell joins us to share his thoughts on the best ways to use bitcoin. We discuss different bitcoin custody options such as trusting third parties, hardware wallets, multisig, and paper wallets, and the advantages and trade-offs involved. What is the case for staying private on bitcoin, and what are the best tools available? What are the most common risks facing bitcoin holders? Will yield products on bitcoin go away or are they coming back? How do you plan for bitcoin inheritance? And much more!ResourcesMatt Odell on TwitterMatt’s official website with links to his social media and resources.Matt discusses Lightning and bitcoin privacy on Episode #21 of Citadel Dispatch.Samourai Wallet website. Information about the Whirlpool here.Wasabi Wallet website.The Bitcoin Standard Podcast episode on bitcoin as “dark money” with Giacomo Zucco.Saifedean and Tone Vays call out problems with Celsius’ business model in 2019.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Aug 9, 2022 • 1h 57min
125. Learning to Code with Amjad Masad
Should you learn to code? Is coding for everyone? Can learning to code make you more employable? Does the value of coding decline in a world of artificial intelligence? Do intellectual property laws help advance computer engineering or hold it back? In this episode, Saifedean talks to Amjad Masad: CEO of leading coding platform Replit. They discuss how Amjad’s upbringing in Jordan led him into the world of programming, how he started Replit, how it grew from an open source project to a company valued over $1b, teaching millions to code and build powerful products, and why he turned down a $1b acquisition offer in 2019. Amjad also shares the story of how he discovered bitcoin, how he is integrating it into Replit, and why he thinks programmable money is so important.ReferencesAmjad on Twitter.Replit official website.Amjad tweet on turning down $1bn Replit acquisition offer. Lightning Developers Kit referenced by Amjad during conversation.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Aug 2, 2022 • 1h 54min
124. Adventures in Late Stage Fiat: CFA Franc with Fodé Diop
How did the CFA franc come to be the common currency of 14 West and Central African nations? Who controls it and why did it suddenly lose half of its value in 1994? In this episode, we are joined by software engineer and founder of Bitcoin Developers Academy, Fodé Diop, for a discussion on the fascinating monetary history of West Africa. Fodé explains how the CFA franc has allowed France to maintain economic dominance in West Africa, how the 1994 devaluation affected his family, and why he is supporting bitcoin adoption as means of empowering Africans and increasing financial inclusion. Fodé also explains the work his is doing to support the development of Lightning applications and his plans for the Africa Bitcoin Conference: the first ever bitcoin and Lightning conference in West Africa.ReferencesFodé on Twitter.Bitcoin Developers Academy website.The Fodé Diop Radio Show.Fighting Monetary Colonialism with Open-Source Code by Alex Gladstein.Data on broad money supply growth in Senegal.The Mobile Wave by Michael Saylor.Open-source Lightning Dev Kit and Bitcoin Dev Kit.Africa Bitcoin Conference website (Accra, Dec 7-9).Shortbits blogBen Arc Lightning point of sale page on Github.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.