
The Bitcoin Standard Podcast
Saifedean's The Bitcoin Standard Podcast is the place to discuss Bitcoin and economics from the Austrian school's perspective. Listen to the weekly saifedean.com discussion seminar, where a group of learners from all over the world discuss the website's online courses, as well as a wide variety of economic, political, and social issues, and occasionally host special guests for the discussion. The podcast also includes the most interesting interviews conducted with Saifedean on other shows.
Latest episodes

Oct 22, 2022 • 1h 8min
136. Starfish Publishing with Niko Laamanen
Niko Laamanen, founder of Konsensus Network, joins us to discuss bitcoin publishing and his company's decentralized “starfish” organizational model. He explains how reading The Bitcoin Standard led him to found the world’s first bitcoin-only publishing house and how he harnessed an international network of volunteers to publish over 40 bitcoin titles in ten languages. He and Saifedean also discuss Niko’s journey with Austrian Economics, the importance of hodling bitcoin and work being done to support bitcoin adoption in Madeira.ReferencesNiko on Twitter.Konsensus Network on Twitter.Konsensus Network blog.The Bitcoin Whitepaper.See Konsensus Network’s website for titles referenced during the conversation including Layered Money, The Price of Tomorrow, Choose Life, Bitcoin: Everything divided by 21 million and The Starfish and The Spider.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

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Oct 17, 2022 • 2h 15min
135. Cholesterol Con with Malcolm Kendrick
Does high cholesterol really cause heart disease? Is there such as thing as “good” and “bad” cholesterol? What impact do statins – the most profitable drug in the history of medicine – have on human health? In this episode, Dr Malcolm Kendrick, author of The Great Cholesterol Con and The Clot Thickens, joins us to challenge the conventional wisdom on cholesterol. He shares his view on the diet-heart hypothesis, his intriguing alternative explanation for heart disease, and what he recommends to maintain a healthy heart. We also discuss how and why fiat medicine and economics have many “endlessly adaptable hypotheses" that refuse to die no matter how much reality assaults them.ReferencesDr Kendrick on Twitter.Dr Kendrick’s website.Dr Kendrick’s books: The Great Cholesterol Con, Doctoring Data and The Clot ThickensEuropean cardiovascular disease statistics 2008 edition showing lower cardiovascular disease prevalence in countries with higher saturated fat in the diet. For more on this topic, see this blog post by Dr Kendrick.Website of the International Network of Cholesterol ScepticsDr Kendrick's blog post on Carl von Rokitansky and Rudolf Virchow and the 1852 explanation of heart disease. Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Oct 10, 2022 • 2h 7min
134. Praxeology in One Lesson with Conza
What is praxeology and why does it matter? In this episode, Conza, chairman of the Libertarian Party of Australia, joins us to discuss the theoretical foundations of economics. He explains why praxeology – the science of human action – provides the value-free framework needed to reason about economic questions, and how its method differs from that of physical sciences such as biology. He and Saifedean discuss how praxeology can be used to analyse topics such as minimum wage, inflation and pandemics, and why the contrasting methods used by quantitative macroeconomists are flawed. They also defend Hoppe's argumentation ethics: a proof that arguing against the Non-Aggression Principle is logically incoherent.ReferencesConza on Twitter.Conza’s blog (where all the best economics quotes live).Conza’s YouTube channel.Website of the Austrian Mises Seminar.Mises Wiki article on Mises’ Regression TheoremBBC video on minimum wage being ‘a hurdle’ for disabled people.Theory and History by Ludwig von MisesKonrad Graf’s paper on Action-based Jurisprudence (see page 29 for Graf’s proposed model of praxeology).Konrad Graf’s lectures on bitcoin.Economic Science and the Austrian Method by Hans-Hermann Hoppe.The Beef Initiative website.For a biography of the life of John Maynard Keynes see Keynes the Man by Murray Rothbard.Website of the Australian Mises Seminar.Website of the Libertarian Party of Australia.The Praxeological Science Group on Facebook.The Law by Frédéric BastiatFor a New Liberty by Murray RothbardThe Ethics of Liberty by Hans Hermann HoppeHans Herman Hoppe’s Four-Step Healthcare Solution.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard. Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming book, Principles of Economics, by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Oct 4, 2022 • 1h 57min
133. Bitcoin Banks with Caitlin Long
Wall Street veteran and founder of Custodia Bank Caitlin Long joins us to discuss bitcoin banks, leverage and the macroeconomy. She explains how new “dollar and digital asset banks” like Custodia Bank are helping to bridge the gap between bitcoin and the US dollar, and why she has chosen to seek regulation rather than bypass it. She and Saifedean discuss financial leverage, its impact on bitcoin’s price and why people should be wary of companies promising risk-free yield on bitcoin. The conversation also covers recent developments in financial markets, including rising bond yields and the fall in the British pound. In the Q&A, Caitlin answers questions on Chinese inflation, stablecoin velocity and whether the path to hyperbitcoinization will be orderly.ReferencesCaitlin Forbes article introducing dollar and digital asset banks.The Institutional Risk Analyst article on The Narrow Bank case against the Federal Reserve.Explanation of Wyoming Special Purpose Depository Institutions by government of Wyoming.Jameson Lopp tweet about not helping people to buy bitcoin.Saifedean and Tone Vays debate Celsius’ business model with Alex Mashinsky in 2019.Nik Bhatia article explaining the concept of the Lightning Network Reference Rate (risk-free rate).Mises Wiki article on the Plaza Accord and relationship to monetary expansion in Japan.When Money Dies by Adam FergussonSee Human Action Chapter XXXI, 2. The Interventionist Aspect of Legal Tender Legislation, for a discussion of deflationary policy in Great Britain following inflationary war spending.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard. See chapter 5 Fiat Balances: Universal debt slavery for a discussion of The Narrow Bank.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard. Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming book, Principles of Economics, by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Sep 26, 2022 • 1h 54min
132. Expat Life with Mikkel Thorup
Mikkel Thorup, founder and CEO of Expat Money, joins us to make the case for becoming an expat. He discusses why people should consider moving their life offshore, which jurisdictions are most appealing and strategies listeners can pursue to mitigate tax obligations. Mikkel shares practical tips on finding quality healthcare, educating children, travelling comfortably and managing international finances. He also outlines his views on flag theory, the importance of geographical diversity in investment and the libertarian values that motivate him.ResourcesSaifedean’s viral tweet on "free" healthcare in Canada.Website of Mikkel’s Expat International School of Freedom and Entrepreneurship.Ontario Premier Doug Ford teaches people how to make cheesecake during lockdown.The Habit of Thought: From Socratic Seminars to Socratic Practice by Michael StrongWebsite of Mikkel’s Expat Money Summit taking place in November. Mikkel’s recommended charter flight service Villiers Jets.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Sep 20, 2022 • 1h 19min
131. Adventures in Late Stage Fiat: Russia with Lana Nagornaia
How have Russians dealt with being getting kicked off the fiat dollar network? We are joined by Russian economist and investment advisor Lana Nagornaia to discuss the monetary ramifications of US sanctions from a Russian perspective. Why has the rouble risen versus the dollar in spite of sanctions? Can this be expected to last, or will it reverse? What alternatives are Russians using for trading with the rest of the world? Will Russia switch to a gold standard? Can it trade gold internationally while sanctioned by the global gold market? Can a Chinese-Russian fiat alternative to the dollar succeed? Lana also explains how life in Russia has changed since the outbreak of war, how global energy markets have been affected and how bitcoin could play a role in bringing about a world of sanction-free trade. ReferencesLana Invest official website.Lana on Instagram.London Bullion Market Association suspends Russian gold and silver refiners.Moscow Times article on how Russian gold is being rerouted to China.Al Jazeera article on unofficial ban on Russian gold. Reuters article on Russians rushing to buy Chinese yuan.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Sep 12, 2022 • 33min
130. The Fiat Standard: Unwritten Chapters
In this seminar, Saifedean discusses ideas for potential chapters he considered for, but did not end up including in The Fiat Standard. The analytical framework of the book, examining the impact of fiat money through the destruction of savings, raising time preference, & allowing endless government finance, can be applied to many topics, and in this seminar Saifedean and the attendees explore some ideas. How does fiat affect medicine and the medical establishment and modern medicine? What is the impact on pharmaceutical drugs? What is the impact on law? How has it affected art?ReferencesJörg Guido Hülsmann’s book The Ethics of Money Production.The Bitcoin Standard Podcast episode with James Todaro on Fiat Medicine.The Bitcoin Standard Podcast episode with Stephen Chow: Art on The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Sep 5, 2022 • 1h 45min
129. Bitcoin Venture Capital with Alyse Killeen
Managing Partner of Stillmark, Alyse Killeen, joins us to discuss investing in bitcoin companies. She explains why Stillmark invests in "bitcoin only" companies, what she looks for in bitcoin startups and how venture capital in the bitcoin industry differs from traditional markets. She and Saifedean also discuss how bitcoin investing is long-term focused whereas token VCs have a new short-term model taking advantage of clueless retail with false narratives. Alyse explains how this long-term focus protects bitcoin VCs from short-term volatility, such as the recent spate of high-profile failures in the altcoin space. In the Q&A, Alyse answers questions on industry trends, the mindset of bitcoin founders and bitcoin adoption in El Salvador.ReferencesAlyse on Twitter.Stillmark official website.Lightning Labs explainer on Taro.Article about the sanctioning of Tordano Cash by the US Treasury.Paolo Ardoino appearance on The Bitcoin Standard Podcast.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Aug 30, 2022 • 1h 42min
128. Low Time Preference Football with Kieran Gibbs
Former England international football player Kieran Gibbs joins us to discuss his bitcoin journey, football career, and thoughts on time preference. Find out how he was orange-pilled by team-mate Hal Robson Kanu, why he chose to receive 50% of his salary in bitcoin, how bitcoin has changed him and lowered his time preference, and how he introduces bitcoin to his athlete friends. Kieran also compares playing the low time preference football style of Arsenal's Arsène Wenger with the high time preference style of Sam Allardyce at West Brom, and how Keynesian central banking is analogous to 8 year old playing football. We also compare the economics of the open pyramid structure of the Premier League with the US MLS franchise system. Kieran also discusses how he could integrate bitcoin into his planned football academy, reveals the best players he has played with and against, and provides predictions for the upcoming World Cup.ResourcesKieran on Twitter.IMF chair Kristalina Georgieva likens central bankers to eight year olds playing football.Liverpool draw 4-4 with Arsenal at Anfield in 2008 highlights.Liverpool beat Arsenal 5-1 in 2018 highlights.Highlights of Kieran's time at ArsenalSaifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here.

Aug 23, 2022 • 2h 22min
127. Why We Get Sick with Dr Benjamin Bikman
Are the world's most common illnesses caused by insulin resistance? In this episode, Dr Benjamin Bikman joins us to discuss his best-selling book “Why We Get Sick”. He argues that insulin resistance is at the heart of the world's most prevalent diseases and that poor economic incentives have caused scientists to neglect this phenomenon to pursue unproductive avenues of research. Dr Bikman explains how insulin resistance impacts conditions ranging from diabetes to Alzheimer’s and offers practical advice for listeners looking to improve their health. He also shares his views on broader issues such as the health impact of seed oils and sun exposure.ReferencesDr Bikman on Twitter.Why We Get Sick on Amazon.Alan D. Sokal's hoax submission to journal Social Text: "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity."Ontario Premier Doug Ford teaches people how to make cheesecake during Canada's lockdowns.Article showing that data supporting the most commonly held theory of Alzheimer’s disease is fabricated.The Bitcoin Standard Podcast episode with Nina Teicholz.The Bitcoin Standard Podcast episode with P.D. Mangan.Bright Line Eating: The Science of Living Happy, Thin & Free by Susan Thompson.Saifedean’s first book, The Bitcoin Standard.Saifedean’s second book, The Fiat Standard.Enjoyed this episode? You can take part in podcast seminars, access Saifedean’s courses – including his ongoing course ECO22: The Fiat Standard – and read chapters of his forthcoming books by becoming a Saifedean.com member. Find out more here. Visit saifedean.com/meat to find out more about Saifedean’s experience following the carnivore diet.