
AI and the Law
In this series, 39 Essex Chambers’ barristers, Katherine Apps KC and David Mitchell interview each other and guests exploring the legal issues raised by artificial intelligence including what sort of legal regulation is needed, how AI will impact on the legal profession, discrimination challenges, data protection, intellectual property and ownership, contracting issues and the impact on legal education in the future. Guest include: Baroness Shami Chakrobarti CBE, former shadow Attorney General, I Stephanie Boyce, former Law Society President, Bernie Maier, Michihiro Nichi Clifford Chance Japan, Professor Catherine Barnard, University of Cambridge, Patrick Brodie RPC LLP. The podcast series is suitable both for qualified lawyers and those who are curious about the law.
Latest episodes

Jul 5, 2023 • 24min
Episode 5 - AI and the Law Podcast: AI and discrimination
Professor Catherine Barnard, Professor of EU and Employment Law at the University of Cambridge, discusses discrimination claims in the context of AI. They explore existing case law on algorithmic determinations and potential defences and liability by companies. They also discuss the new proposal for an EU Platform Work directive and regulation of algorithmic performance measures.

Jun 28, 2023 • 10min
Episode 4 - AI and the Law Podcast: The Japanese Perspective
In this episode of the podcast, Michihiro Nishi, partner at Clifford Chance in Tokyo, discusses the legal challenges of generative AI in Japan. Topics include the lack of regulation and copyright protection in Japan, the threat to creative industries such as anime and manga, and the public reception of generative AI. The speaker also explores the potential for legislative reform, the impact of AI on work practices, and legal issues surrounding copyright and data privacy.

Jun 21, 2023 • 25min
Episode 3 - AI and the Law Podcast: Regulation and AI
Baroness Shami Chakrabarti discusses the need for comprehensive AI regulation, including legislation and granular regulation. They explore the limitations of principles-based regulation and advocate for specific prohibitions and prior approvals. They also discuss the use of AI in criminal justice, the dangers of relying solely on algorithms, and the challenges of international regulation, expressing hope for a gold standard.

Jun 14, 2023 • 26min
Episode 2 - AI and the Law Podcast: Lawtech and the legal profession
Stephanie Boyce, former President of the Law Society of England and Wales, discusses the ethical implications of generative AI in the legal profession and its potential bias. They explore the impact of AI on diversity and inclusion, transparency in algorithms, the EU's legislation on AI, and the effects of generative AI on the legal profession including concerns of fake case laws.

Jun 7, 2023 • 15min
Episode 1 - AI and the Law Podcast: Introduction
Introduction to AI and the Law podcast, discussing the use of AI in various fields, including the legal profession. Exploring challenges of generative AI in defamation, media, and discrimination. Discussing legal issues and impact of AI in society, including employment and data protection. Exploring legal implications of gaming apps, digital medical records, and contracting issues with AI software. Examining regulatory and compliance issues in the legal profession due to new technologies.