

The COO Roundtable
Coldstream Wealth Managment
Join host Matt Sonnen and a panel of COOs, as they share an open discussion about operational and technology best practices for the RIA industry, and shed a light on the tremendously important work COOs perform on a day-to-day basis.
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Sep 2, 2020 • 33min
EP 21 - Doug Johnson of Parcion Private Wealth & Chris Keller of Benjamin F. Edwards & Company
In the 21st episode of The COO Roundtable, Matt welcomes Chris Keller, Executive Vice President and Director of Business Services at Benjamin F. Edwards & Company and Doug Johnson, newly appointed Chief Operating Officer at Parcion Private Wealth. The Benjamin F. Edwards & Company brand dates back 130 years, and the company is headquartered in St. Louis, Missouri with more than 600 employees and advisor affiliates and assets totaling about $27 billion. Parcion Private Wealth opened its doors in October 2019 and is headquartered in Bellevue, Washington with 16 employees and about $1.2 billion in assets under management. Matt, Chris, and Doug discuss a number of topics, including integrating their technology stack with different vendors, how their firms leverage that technology to provide outstanding client service, and much more including:
Overview of their respective firms and their professional backgrounds, including a funny moment regarding Chris’ LinkedIn bio
The challenges both Chris and Doug have faced when looking to move their businesses toward the RIA model
An interesting conversation about when to hire a COO at an RIA
The value professional management brings to the wealth management space, specifically
Their firms’ respective views and goals regarding inorganic vs. organic growth
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Aug 4, 2020 • 36min
EP 20 - Diane Gabianelli of Parallel Advisors & Cecilia Williams of Halbert Hargrove
In the 20th episode of The COO Roundtable, Matt welcomes Diane Gabianelli, Co-President and Chief Financial Officer of Parallel Advisors and Cecilia Williams, Director of Investment Operations and Chief Compliance Officer of Halbert Hargrove. Parallel Advisors manages over $3 billion of client assets and is headquartered in San Francisco, with offices in Denver, Honolulu, Ohio, and Oklahoma City. Halbert Hargrove is headquartered in Long Beach, California and has over $2 billion in assets under management with 44 employees and offices in 5 states. Matt, Diane, and Cecilia discuss a myriad of topics, including how they oversee their firm’s operations, how they manage their time, and much more, including:
Overview of their respective firms and how they provide their clients a high level of service
Diane’s career path that led her to Parallel Advisors and Cecilia’s long tenure at Halbert Hargrove, as well as working to get her MBA while continuing to hold her full time position at the firm
How both firms and their multiple offices have transitioned to the Work From Home model and their plans for returning to collaborative in-person work in the future
The steps each firm has taken to foster a more inclusive and diverse culture
Career development and recruiting at each firm
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Jun 30, 2020 • 42min
EP 19 - Mike Reed of Dakota Wealth Management & Michelle Thetford of Hightower Advisors
In the 19th episode of The COO Roundtable, Matt welcomes Michelle Thetford, Chief Operations Officer of HighTower Advisors and Michael Reed, Chief Operating Officer of Dakota Wealth Management. HighTower Advisors is headquartered in Chicago, Illinois and has $57 billion under management with 108 different advisory businesses and 225 advisors. Founded in 2018, Dakota Wealth Management has $1.2 billion under management, 30 team members, and is headquartered in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. Matt, Michelle, and Mike discuss how, even in the current climate with uncertainty around every corner, the COO continues to play a key role in a firm’s long-term success and goals. Other topics of conversation include:
Overview of their respective firms and how they each became COOs, including Mike’s interesting transition from a “classically trained medical practitioner” to the RIA space
How the transition to Work From Home has affected both of their larger than average firms’ operations
How they have managed team morale, communication, and acknowledged their teams’ needs to ensure great client experience throughout the pandemic
An update on how the pandemic has impacted their firm’s M&A pipeline
Branding after an M&A acquisition
How best to keep advisors focused on their biggest value-add activities
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Jun 3, 2020 • 49min
EP 18 - Steven Beals of EP Wealth Advisors & Eric Hehman of Austin Asset
In the 18th episode of The COO Roundtable, Matt welcomes Steven Beals, Chief Administrative Officer of EP Wealth Advisors and Eric Hehman, Chief Executive Officer and Principal of Austin Asset. EP Wealth Advisors manages $6B of AUM across 14 offices with their headquarters in Torrance, California. Managing over $1B in AUM, Austin Asset is aptly headquartered in Austin, Texas. As the country adjusts to “the new normal,” Matt, Steven, and Eric discuss how crucial the COO position has been in successfully keeping firms running now and in the future. Other topics of conversation include:
Background on their respective firms, what clients they serve, and a fun story about Luke Sonnen’s playdate arriving at the Sonnen house wearing an EP Wealth Advisors baseball uniform
Their career paths, specifically Eric’s long tenure at Austin Asset and his path from unpaid intern to CEO, and Steven’s interesting journey in the industry that included moving to Arizona and his promotions at Charles Schwab which lead to various management roles
Coordinating their firm’s operations and services to succeed in a work from home environment
How EP Wealth Advisors has made their firm an attractive home for advisors
Eric discusses his book Success and Succession: Unlocking Value, Power, and Potential in the Professional Services and Advisory Space
Career paths for professionals invested in the operational space
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To learn more about Eric Hehman’s book, click here.
To read the CFP Board’s Financial Planning Career Paths report, click here.
To read a full transcript of this episode, click here.
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May 5, 2020 • 42min
EP 17 - Vibhaw Arya of Shufro Rose & Brandon McKerney of Columbia Pacific Wealth Management
In the 17th episode of The COO Roundtable, Matt welcomes Vibhaw Arya, Chief Operating Officer at Shufro Rose and Brandon McKerney, Partner and Director of Operations at Columbia Pacific Wealth Management. Headquartered in New York City, New York, Shufro Rose manages approximately $1.5B in AUM and was founded in 1938. Columbia Pacific Wealth Management manages almost $4.5B in AUM and is headquartered in Seattle, Washington. As the country continues to navigate the unfolding COVID-19 crisis, our guests detail their respective firms’ response to this operating challenge. Matt, Vib, and Brandon discuss the COO’s role in supporting a firm’s “People, Culture, and Vision” and much more, including:
Their backgrounds, including Brandon being drafted as a pitcher for the Seattle Mariners
The role of the COO in continuing firm productivity and boosting morale during this time
Their firms’ transition to working from home and their experience in two major cities seriously affected by COVID-19
The COO’s responsibility in implementing the firm’s vision by empowering employees and finding the best solutions available
How they drive integration and user adoption in their firms
Career paths their firms have created for their teams
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Apr 7, 2020 • 48min
EP 16 - David Aaron of Cerity Partners & Jim Atkinson of STA Wealth Management
In the 16th episode of The COO Roundtable, Matt welcomes David Aaron, Partner at Cerity Partners* and Jim Atkinson, COO and Head of Mergers & Acquisitions at STA Wealth Management. Prior to selling his firm in January 2020 to Cerity Partners, the $26B AUM aggregator, David was Co-CEO and CIO of EMM Wealth, a $3 billion RIA in New York City. STA Wealth Management is headquartered in Houston, TX, and manages approximately $2.1 billion. With most of the country under quarantine and practicing social distancing, many firms are experiencing major transitions themselves to partial or entire remote work models. Dubbing this interview the “Stay at Home” episode, Matt, David, and Jim highlight the COO’s key contributions to successful transitions in both business continuity and M&A. Their discussion also covers the importance of planning for contingencies, routine continuity plan testing, strategic use of leadership teams, and much more, including:
How a tested, strong Business Continuity Plan makes for a smooth transition to remote work
Their respective paths to leadership roles at their firms
Comparing and contrasting their experiences on each side of an M&A transaction
The role the COO plays in transitions—either M&A transactions or emergency continuity situations
How adopting a strategic operating system, such as the one described in the best-selling book “Traction” can unlock higher levels of productivity
*All uses of the name Cerity Partners, and any derivations of the name Cerity Partners, refer exclusively to Cerity Partners LLC, a national wealth management firm headquartered in New York. For more information about Cerity Partners, visit www.ceritypartners.com. We hope you enjoy, share, and subscribe! You can listen and subscribe on iTunes, Google Play, Spotify, iHeartRadio or Stitcher. Sign up here to be notified of new practice management content added to our blog on a regular basis.

Mar 3, 2020 • 52min
EP 15 - Loren Pierson of Mercer Advisors & Michael Kossman of Aspiriant
In the 15th episode of The COO Roundtable, Matt welcomes Loren Pierson, COO of Mercer Advisors and Michael Kossman, COO, CCO, and Partner of Aspiriant. A trailblazer in the RIA industry in the field of mergers and acquisitions, Mercer Advisors has acquired 31 firms to date. Headquartered in Denver, Colorado, Mercer has over 400 employees and approximately $18 billion in client assets. Headquartered in Los Angeles, CA, Aspiriant has 11 offices around the country and manages over $12 billion in client assets. With the goal of highlighting how a COO’s key contributions to a firm’s operations lead to successful mergers and acquisitions, Matt, Loren, and Michael sit down to discuss the importance of an organized, scalable infrastructure, alignment of common core values, translating vision into action, and much more including:
Their individual paths that led them to become COOs at powerhouse RIAs
The story behind San Francisco’s “Michael Kossman Day”
Comparing and contrasting their respective firms’ philosophies on M&A
The role the COO plays in each of their respective firms’ M&A strategy
How to create a culture and scalable process that gives a unified, stand out client experience across offices nationwide
How they each plan for their respective firms’ future
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Feb 7, 2020 • 27min
EP 14 - Industry Spotlight: M&A Landscape for RIAs
With M&A activity at an all-time high and no sign of stopping anytime soon, we take a break from our usual interview format here in Episode 14 and Matt speaks directly to our listeners about the ever-important topic of Buyer Preparation. For any firm to be a successful buyer in this ultra-competitive M&A market, we believe they first need a strong COO and well-defined back-office systems and workflows, as these are what Sellers are looking for when comparing their options of who to partner with and entrust with their client assets. With the goal of highlighting the importance of having the proper infrastructure in place before jumping into the M&A game, Matt draws inspiration from Christina Townsend’s recent InvestmentNews article “RIAs: Shopping for M&A Deals?: Better Get Your House in Order First…” Chris Voss’s Never Spit the Difference, and even sprinkles in a little humor with an Old School reference when discussing “capacity, people, and technology.” Matt’s “rant” includes:
Setting realistic expectations for acquisitions
The importance and value of a comprehensive onboarding plan for M&A
The fears employees face during the transition period and how to handle those situations in a way that is fair and productive for both firms
The 7 Components of Successful M&A strategies
How the COO can be leveraged during M&A transactions
We hope you enjoy, share, and subscribe! You can listen and subscribe on iTunes, Google Play, Spotify, iHeartRadio or Stitcher. In this episode, Matt discusses many of the previous articles we have written on our blog -- sign up here to be notified of new practice management content added to our blog on a regular basis.

Jan 7, 2020 • 49min
EP 13 - Kristi de Grys of Merriman & Larry Miles of AdvicePeriod
In the 13th episode of The COO Roundtable, Matt welcomes Kristi de Grys of Merriman Wealth Management and Larry Miles of AdvicePeriod. After spending almost two decades in the aerospace industry, Kristi de Grys brings an outside (and strongly analytical) perspective and occupies a role not yet seen on The COO Roundtable—that of the Chief Investment Officer/COO. Similarly, Larry brings the perspective of a “recovering history and English major” to his role of providing strategic leadership for growth and profitability. With the goal of highlighting the importance of values & culture when it comes to the management of a firm, Matt, Kristi, & Larry sit down to discuss how a COO can make the firm’s values the basis for its processes, how to build the right culture for your firm, and more, including:
The benefits of hiring a diverse set of team members from both within and without the industry
How intentionality is key when building a distinct culture at your firm
How a COO can maintain an outsider’s perspective in order to continually challenge the status quo
Larry’s experience being both a principal and a practice management author
Kristi’s three levels of communication within a firm
The importance of professional management, and the COO specifically, for RIAs in acquisition mode
Where Kristi and Larry turn to for peer-level best practices and education
Check out Larry’s book, It’s That Simple: How to Build the Professional Service Firm of the Future, here. We hope you enjoy, share, and subscribe! You can listen and subscribe on iTunes, Google Play, Spotify, iHeartRadio or Stitcher. Sign up here to be notified of new practice management content added to our blog on a regular basis.

Dec 3, 2019 • 40min
EP 12 - Mark Tibergien & Karen Novak of BNY Mellon Pershing
In the 12th episode of The COO Roundtable, Matt welcomes Mark Tibergien and Karen Novak of BNY Mellon Pershing.* Mark, CEO, Advisor Solutions, BNY Mellon Pershing is a monumental figure in the RIA space and a true champion of professional management in the RIA industry. Similarly, Karen has contributed thirty years to the financial services industry, twenty-three of which have been at Pershing, where she serves as Chief Operating Officer, Advisor Solutions, BNY Mellon Pershing. With the goal of highlighting the importance of professional management when it comes to the COO role, Matt, Mark, and Karen sit down to discuss what key metrics a COO should consider when seeking to execute the vision for the firm and much more, including:
The benefits of a good cultural fit between the CEO and COO and how they can enhance firm-wide growth through a joint effort
How Karen helps make Pershing an “employer of choice” by thinking through the employee experience from onboarding through succession planning
Mark’s six components of a successful business and how the COO can drive those standards of excellence forward
The importance of re-evaluating and adjusting business plans and admitting when the direction of the firm might need resetting
Understanding the three biggest trends every firm owner should be mindful of
Matt’s unbridled joy at speaking with his personal hero Mark Tibergien (are you familiar with Eddie Van Halen’s idolization of Eric Clapton?)
We hope you enjoy, share, and subscribe! You can listen and subscribe on iTunes, Google Play, Spotify, iHeartRadio or Stitcher. Sign up here to be notified of new practice management content added to our blog on a regular basis. *This interview was conducted on November 18th, prior to the Schwab-TD Ameritrade merger announcement on November 21st.


