

The COO Roundtable
Coldstream Wealth Managment
Join host Matt Sonnen and a panel of COOs, as they share an open discussion about operational and technology best practices for the RIA industry, and shed a light on the tremendously important work COOs perform on a day-to-day basis.
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Oct 1, 2025 • 47min
Episode 79: Morgan Bell & Lisa Crafford
In Episode 79, Matt welcomes two long-time friends and industry experts: Lisa Crafford and Morgan Bell of Constellation Wealth Capital (“CWC”). CWC is a Chicago-based private equity firm founded in 2023 that specializes in making minority investments in growth-oriented wealth management firms across the United States. Lisa and Morgan first met at BNY Mellon Pershing, while consulting for RIAs. Today, Lisa serves as Managing Director, Head of Advisory, and Morgan leads technology consulting at CWC. Matt has long considered both Morgan and Lisa fellow “operations nerds,” and has enjoyed collaborating with them on content aimed at helping operations professionals run better firms. After sharing their career stories, the conversation dives into:
The evolution of the COO role as the wealth management industry matures
The need for leadership and next generation training in the industry, and how Lisa and Morgan addressed these needs – both historically and now at CWC
Solving the complex puzzle of building a scalable, efficient, and integrated tech stack
Where the COO is headed in the next five years
Common mistakes firms make, and how to avoid them at your RIA
Advice for first-time COOs and for RIAs hiring their first COO
And, of course, a short tribute to Mark Tibergien’s immense impact on our industry
The article, “The Importance of Strategy and How a COO Can Help” can be found here.

Sep 3, 2025 • 38min
Episode 78: Eric Stephenson & Shelly Kapoor
In this engaging discussion, Eric Stephenson, Managing Director at Pathstone, and Shelly Kapoor, Manager of Business Integrations at Coldstream, share their insights on M&A integration. Both emphasize the importance of human elements in successful transitions, alongside the role of technology as a facilitating force. They highlight their firms' values-driven approaches to growth, discuss practical strategies for integration, and offer invaluable advice for COOs stepping into dedicated integration roles, underscoring the need for curiosity and relationship-building.

Aug 6, 2025 • 41min
Episode 77: Brad Cox and Michael Walliser
Episode 77 finds Matt interviewing two seasoned RIA operators: Brad Cox and Michael Walliser, for an insightful conversation on growth, technology, and collaboration in the wealth management industry. Brad is COO, CCO, and Partner at Diversified Portfolios, Inc., based in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. The firm was founded in 1993 and has grown to approximately $1.8 billion of client assets, with a team of 19 employees. Michael serves as President and CCO at Condor Capital Wealth Management in Martinsville, New Jersey. Established in 1988, Condor Capital oversees about $2 billion for clients and employs 28 professionals. In this episode, Brad and Michael discuss their 32-year-old study group, the Council of Independent Financial Advisors (“CIFA”), as well as:
How to structure your study group to ensure each member gains the most from it
The processes at each of their firms that have needed to change as their firms have grown
The pros and cons of building a “best-of-breed” technology stack vs. adopting an “all-in-one” solution
Both guests’ approach to AI and how they have implemented it to enhance client service and streamline operations at their firms
What cybersecurity tools and protocols both firms use to protect sensitive employee and client data
To learn more about the Council of Independent Financial Advisors (“CIFA”), please visit: https://www.katiecalaguiconsulting.com/council-of-independent-financial-advisors

May 21, 2025 • 38min
Episode 76: Tony Cox & Whitney Imeraj
We are excited to return to our traditional interview format for Episode 76, but this time with a twist! For the first time, we are interviewing an RIA who is actively searching for a Chief Operating Officer. In this episode, we delve into the responsibilities they envision for their new COO, once hired.
Sage Mountain Advisors, founded in 2018 out of Goldman Sachs, has experienced remarkable growth. Starting with just six employees, the firm has expanded to 25 employees, managing approximately $5.5 billion for their clients. To date, the COO role has been filled by Whitney Imeraj, IACCP®, who also serves as the CCO and Partner of the firm. Whitney has shared many operational duties with Tony Cox, Co-Founder, President, and Chief Investment Officer.
In this episode, Whitney, Tony, and Matt discuss why Sage Mountain believes it is the right time to bring in a new COO, as well as:
How they are conducting their COO search process
The “Technology and Innovation” components of the new COO’s job
How they hope the new COO will impact “Team Leadership and Culture Building”
Where Whitney sees the candidate driving “Operational Leadership”
What direction Tony sees the COO taking “Strategic Growth and Vision”
The “Compliance and Risk Management” responsibilities the new role will encompass
How Sage Mountain plans to engage in M&A, and the expected impact of the new COO on these goals
Other key areas of the firm beyond Technology, HR, Business Administration, and M&A that the new COO will hopefully influence
To apply for this role and/or to see what a comprehensive COO job description looks like, please see Sage Mountain Advisors’ job posting here.
You can read Matt’s recent article, Smart Hiring for RIAs: Aligning Talent with Team Needs

Apr 23, 2025 • 27min
Episode 75: Why AI Is Not Your Top Tech Priority
In the midst of volatile markets and a bustling tax season, Matt faced a unique challenge for Episode 75: he was unable to secure guests for the show. Rather than skipping an episode, he opted for a second monologue in a row, a format he typically reserves for special occasions. While he prefers to spotlight those leading operations at their firms, he chose a topic that resonates deeply with our listeners: leveraging technology to enhance the experiences of both teammates and clients.
Drawing on insights from his recent panel at the RIA Edge Nashville conference, titled Crafting a Memorable Client Experience With WealthTech, and his latest article, Why AI Isn’t Your RIA’s Top Technology Priority, Matt delves into the current landscape of RIA technology. He provides a thoughtful analysis on how to construct a tech strategy that underscores your firm’s value proposition for your ideal clients. Additionally, he discusses Matt Beecher’s compelling article, The Tech You Use Doesn’t Matter, along with several of his own writings on RIA technology.
Key Takeaways from the Episode:
Clients expect advisors to use technology to manage their assets and enhance their relationships, not to provide DIY investment tools.
The client experience should prioritize human interaction, augmented by technology, rather than replacing personal connection by placing technology in the hands of the client.
Many RIAs fall into the trap of adopting new technology without fully understanding its impact ― an “Impact Filter” can help prevent “Shiny Object Syndrome.”
Focus on core technologies that support daily operations (like CRM and portfolio management) and use satellite tools (such as AI analytics) as enhancements that align with firm goals.
Many RIAs struggle with insufficient, misaligned, or excessive technology, making it essential to address foundational issues before tackling advanced solutions like AI.
While AI offers exciting opportunities, it shouldn't take precedence over resolving core technology challenges.
Ultimately, clients value personal support and confidence in their financial journeys more than the intricacies of an RIA’s tech stack.
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Resources:
Matt’s recent article can be found here: Why AI Isn’t Your RIA’s Top Technology Priority
Matt Beecher’s article can be found here: The Tech You Use Doesn’t Matter
Matt’s article High Tech vs. High Touch: What Are Clients Really Asking For? can be found here.
Matt’s article RIAs That Excel at Technology Do Not Look Like Tech Firms can be found here.
Matt’s article Identify Your Ideal Client Before You Determine Your Tech Stack can be found here.
Matt’s article RIAs Are Struggling With Too Much Technology, Not Too Little can be found here.

Mar 5, 2025 • 34min
Episode 74: The Importance of Client Segmentation
Discover the transformative power of client segmentation for business growth. Learn why overextending services can harm larger clients and overall profitability. Uncover two common misconceptions around segmentation and explore practical methods to assess a firm's client cost structure. Gain insights on strategically allocating resources to enhance service quality and align offerings with client tiers. Finally, hear actionable steps for ensuring organizational capacity supports both client satisfaction and sustainable growth.

Feb 5, 2025 • 44min
Episode 73: Carrie King and Jay Tarno
With Episode 73, Matt welcomes two thoughtful RIA operators to the podcast: Carrie King and Jay Tarno, CFP®. Carrie is Partner, Chief Compliance Officer, Director of Trading, and a Wealth Advisor at Ullmann Wealth Partners, located in Jacksonville Beach, Florida. Ullmann Wealth Partners was founded in 2002 and has grown from approximately $400 million in 2018 when Carrie joined, to about $1.1 billion today. Jay is the Chief Operating Officer at Cornerstone Planning Group in Fairfield, New Jersey. Cornerstone launched in 2020 with about $100 million of assets and today manages approximately $700 million for clients. Matt, Carrie, and Jay discuss the career paths that led them to where they are today (including Carrie’s time as a French restaurant owner!), as well as:
The mindset they use for tackling each day to ensure they are as productive as possible
Favorite books that have shaped their approach to their careers (Getting Things Done by David Allen and Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell)
How their firms have used specialized client niches to propel their growth
The hiring, onboarding, and training practices they use to set teammates up for success
The importance of documenting their firms’ processes and how those documented processed can cut employee training time in half
Specific tech initiatives their firms are focused on

Jan 8, 2025 • 46min
Episode 72: Brittany Manning & Brian Habas
We welcome Brittany Manning and Brian Habas for Episode 72! Brittany is the Chief Operating Officer at MCF Advisors, with offices in Covington, Lexington, and Louisville, Kentucky. The firm manages approximately $3.2 billion for both private clients and institutional clients and has 34 employees. Brian joined AlphaCore Wealth Advisory about six months ago as Chief Operating Officer. Alphacore is headquartered in La Jolla, CA, with additional offices in five other states. The firm manages around $3.5 billion and employes 49 team members. Britanny, Brian, and Matt discuss career paths for non-advisors in the wealth management industry, as well as:
How they identify different skillsets across their team and ensure they have the right people in the right seats
The importance of documented processes, especially at firms experiencing hyper-rapid growth
The complexities of technology integration
How each are approaching AI at their firms
Strategies both guests have implemented to successfully lead change across their organizations

Dec 4, 2024 • 50min
Episode 71: Amy Flourry & Maria Millner
Matt was joined by Amy Flourry, Director of Operations of Rehmann Wealth, and Maria Millner, Partner and Head of Operations of Transcend Capital Advisors. Rehmann Wealth is headquartered in Lansing, MI, with additional offices in Ohio and Florida, and advises on approximately $4 billion across private client and retirement plan assets. Transcend Capital Advisors is headquartered in Madison, NJ, with additional office locations in Michigan and Florida, and works with approximately $3 billion in client assets and has 40 employees. Matt, Amy, and Maria have a deep conversation on the struggles of work/life balance in a hybrid environment, as well as:
The need to feel uncomfortable sometimes by raising your hand for projects and career opportunities that may be out of your comfort zone
The power of formal and informal mentorship, and how it benefits both the mentor and the mentee
How to best navigate growth and determine the roles and responsibilities among team members
Why teamwork makes the dream work!
How both guests not only drive change, but survive in a rapidly changing work environment
The mindset needed to find motivation and purpose in a sometimes underappreciated career in Operations

Nov 5, 2024 • 53min
Episode 70: Jeremy Massullo & Dr. Jordan Hutchison
Matt was joined by Jeremy Massullo of Concurrent and Dr. Jordan Hutchison of RFG Advisory for Episode 70. Jeremy was Concurrent’s very first employee seven years ago, and currently serves as VP of Operations. The firm is headquartered in Tampa, FL, started as an OSJ on Raymond James’ platform, and currently has approximately $9.5 billion of client assets. Jordan serves as RFG’s Vice President of Technology and Operations. RFG Advisory is headquartered in Birmingham, AL, and manages approximately $5.5 billion with 65 employees. Matt, Jeremy, and Jordan tackle many operational topics that RIAs struggle with, including:
What day-to-day services they have centralized for advisors
How they both are approaching the hiring of new Operations staff
The evaluation of technology vendors and the challenge of “shiny object syndrome”
Steps they both take to ensure clean data is flowing across their tech stack
How they have designed their CRMs to support their advisors’ organic growth goals
Change Management techniques both have incorporated to limit the “change fatigue” felt by their firms’ advisors and staff