The Legal Ops Podcast

In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot speak with Jason Boehmig, co-founder and CEO of Ironclad. Ironclad aims to transform contract management from a low-value administrative task to a core business activity which provides valuable data and insights to the c-suite and other organisational leaders. Central to this mission is the development of the "digital business contract", a truly digital version of the analogue agreements we have worked with for centuries. LINKS Jason on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jboehmig/ IronClad homepage: https://ironcladapp.com/ Shipping container article: https://ironcladapp.com/blog/announcing-ironclads-series-d/ Pactsafe acquisition article: https://ironcladapp.com/blog/ironclad-pactsafe/?hellobar

Alex and Elliot chat with Electra about: * Where the oneNDA idea came from * How it will eliminate NDA negotiations 80% of the time * Who’s involved in the project and what their roles are * The end of the “your paper or mine?” negotiation * Why legal needs its own GitHub * Why contracts are a public asset and should be open source LINKS oneNDA Website: https://onenda.club/ Electra Japonas Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/electra-japonas/

Alex and Elliot chat about: * The merger of HBR Consulting and Keno Kozie, forming the world's largest legal tech advisory team * Microsoft's "industry clouds" and whether or not they will come to legal * New presenter modes in MS Teams * OneNDA, a community-led initiative to create a universal NDA LINKS HBR Consulting and Keno Kozie merger: https://legaltechnology.com/breaking-news-hbr-consulting-acquires-keno-kozie-to-form-700-legal-tech-advisory-team/ Microsoft's industry clouds: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-unveils-three-more-industry-clouds-for-financial-manufacturing-and-nonprofit/ MS Teams new presenter modes: https://www-theverge-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/3/2/22308927/microsoft-teams-presenter-mode-powerpoint-live-features OneNDA: https://onenda.club/

Have you ever wanted to know what legal ops looks like at Google? Or are you curious about what the President of CLOC thinks about the future of legal ops? We sat down with the inspiring Mary O’Carroll, Director of Operations, Technology and Strategy for the legal department at Google and President of CLOC, the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium. Mary, Alex and Elliot discussed many topics concerning legal operations and technology, including: * Mary’s journey to becoming one of the most influential leaders in legal operations * The structure of legal ops at Google and their tech stack * What legal ops looks like across the world and how it has grown * Why data is at the centre of everything for legal ops * Whether or not we are moving to more enterprise technology, at the expense of legal-specific technology * Mary’s view on the future of legal ops and technology LINKS Mary O’Carroll’s CLOC profile: https://cloc.org/about-cloc/ On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryshenocarroll/ On Twitter: https://twitter.com/maryocarroll?lang=en

Alex and Elliot chat about: * Gartner's five Legal Tech trends that are changing in-house legal departments * BankWest's new comic-like terms and conditions * an update on the Australian News Media Bargaining Code * a recent newspaper article outlining how law firms can do more with less (spoiler: via legal ops) * PWC accepting its first Bitcoin payment LINKS Gartner article: https://www.gartner.com/smarterwithgartner/5-legal-technology-trends-changing-in-house-legal-departments/ BankWest's visual T&Cs: https://www.bankwest.com.au/about-us/media-centre/news/pictures-make-a-thousand-words-in-visual-style-australia-first How law firms can do more with less: https://www.afr.com/companies/professional-services/how-law-firms-can-do-more-with-less-20210301-p576ox PWC's Bitcoin payment: https://www.ccn.com/big-4-accounting-giant-pwc-accepts-first-bitcoin-payment/

Karina Vazirova is a legal innovator, an experienced product developer and a specialist in user experience and design. Her agency, KV Labs, focuses on UX research, prototyping and design. She also co-founded FemTech Lab, Europe’s first FemTech accelerator. Karina, Elliot and Alex had an insightful chat focused on UX and design in a legal context, including: * Karina’s journey from being an international chess master to working in legal tech and then starting her own design agency. * What “user experience” means. * When user experience should be considered in a legal context. * How to obtain UX feedback by finding users and asking the right types of questions. * Why focusing on facts, and not opinions, is important when undertaking UX research. * The future of legal operations and technology. LINKS Karina Vazirova on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karinavazirova/ KV Labs: https://www.kv-labs.co/

In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot interview Tom Dunlop. He's the founder and CEO of Summize, which is a simple, lightweight and easy-to-use tool designed to make it quicker and easier for legal teams to review, summarise and draft contracts. LINKS Check out Summize: https://www.summize.com/ Contact Tom: tom@summize.com

Alex and Elliot chat about: * early impressions on Elliot's new Apple Watch * Spark, a new dashboard covering fundraising and M&A in the legal tech space * Ironclad raises $100 million with a valuation of almost $1 billion * a recent court decision involving Uber regarding online acceptance of terms and conditions * the Australian News Media Bargaining Code, which could dramatically affect the internet search market in Australia and goes to the core of competition and democracy in the country LINKS Ironclad article on shipping containerisation: https://ironcladapp.com/blog/announcing-ironclads-series-d/?hellobar

Mick Sheehy is a partner at PWC in Australia and head of the firm's NewLaw practice. He is a former General Counsel at Telstra where he developed and led the legal department's innovation program, which later became its legal operations and transformation function. Mick, Alex and Elliot had a fascinating conversation focused on data and metrics for corporate legal departments. They covered: * Why metrics are important, and why legal departments have generally been slower to adopt them than other corporate departments. * Whether or not it is reasonable to expect lawyers to be data experts. * What constitutes a "metric", and whether or not it must be quantifiable. * How to decide what to measure. * How to utilise metrics, including their value in making decisions and framing stories. * The role of technology and standardisation in the collection and use of metrics. * The future of NewLaw and legal operations. Note: This interview with Mick was recorded in late 2020. LINKS PWC New Law team: https://www.pwc.com.au/legal/newlaw-optimising-your-law-department.html

Alex and Elliot chat about a bunch of legal tech news, including: * recent capital raisings by BrightFlag and Summize * a potential tech security vulnerability for Facebook's legal department * Salesforce's acquisition of Slack * Cydia's antitrust lawsuit against Apple * rumours of an upcoming Apple search engine * thoughts on the new AirPods Max over ear headphones * a Christmas message and what's coming up on the podcast in 2021 LINKS Facebook security vulnerability: https://alaa.blog/2020/12/how-i-hacked-facebook-part-one/Salesforce's acquisition of Slack: https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/technology/salesforce-slack-deal.amp.htmlCydia's antitrust lawsuit: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/apples-app-store-is-an-illegal-monopoly-rival-cydia-claims-in-suit/Apple search engine: https://www.fastcompany.com/90583870/apple-search-engine-google-competitionAirPods Max review: https://www.theverge.com/22177494/apple-airpods-max-headphones-review-price-features