The Legal Ops Podcast

In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot speak with Alex Kelly, co-founder and COO of BrightFlag. BrightFlag is a legal spend management platform which uses artificial intelligence to automate the review and management of law firm invoices. LINKS BrightFlag website: https://brightflag.com/ BrightFlag on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/brightflag Alex Kelly on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexkellybrightflag/

Dr. Justine Rogers is a Senior Lecturer in the law department at the University of New South Wales (UNSW) and Deputy Director of the Future of Law and Innovation in the Profession (FLIP) research stream. Peter Dombkins is an Adjunct Associate Professor in the UNSW law department and a Director in PWC's NewLaw practice. Alex and Elliot spoke with Justine and Peter about their recent journal article entitled "Legal Project Management: Projectifying the Legal Profession", the first academic paper focused on Legal Project Management (LPM). They covered many topics related to LPM including: * What is a "project" and what is "legal project management"? * How project management grew out of the military and aeronautical industries in the 1950s and 60s * The conflict between lawyers as professionals and the managerial discipline introduced by LPM * How LPM is, practically, incorporated into legal practice * The future of LPM in an industrial and academic context LINKS Main article: https://lthj.qut.edu.au/article/view/1610 Dr. Justine Rogers: https://www.law.unsw.edu.au/staff/justine-rogers Peter Dombkins on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterdombkins

Alex and Elliot chat about: * Elliot's thoughts on his Apple Watch, after 4 months of using it * Recent legal tech capital raisings * Two big IT players enter the legal market * An ambitious new initiative to develop a common framework for structured contract data

In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot speak with Jason Boehmig, co-founder and CEO of Ironclad. Ironclad aims to transform contract management from a low-value administrative task to a core business activity which provides valuable data and insights to the c-suite and other organisational leaders. Central to this mission is the development of the "digital business contract", a truly digital version of the analogue agreements we have worked with for centuries. LINKS Jason on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jboehmig/ IronClad homepage: https://ironcladapp.com/ Shipping container article: https://ironcladapp.com/blog/announcing-ironclads-series-d/ Pactsafe acquisition article: https://ironcladapp.com/blog/ironclad-pactsafe/?hellobar

Alex and Elliot chat with Electra about: * Where the oneNDA idea came from * How it will eliminate NDA negotiations 80% of the time * Who’s involved in the project and what their roles are * The end of the “your paper or mine?” negotiation * Why legal needs its own GitHub * Why contracts are a public asset and should be open source LINKS oneNDA Website: https://onenda.club/ Electra Japonas Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/electra-japonas/

Alex and Elliot chat about: * The merger of HBR Consulting and Keno Kozie, forming the world's largest legal tech advisory team * Microsoft's "industry clouds" and whether or not they will come to legal * New presenter modes in MS Teams * OneNDA, a community-led initiative to create a universal NDA LINKS HBR Consulting and Keno Kozie merger: https://legaltechnology.com/breaking-news-hbr-consulting-acquires-keno-kozie-to-form-700-legal-tech-advisory-team/ Microsoft's industry clouds: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-unveils-three-more-industry-clouds-for-financial-manufacturing-and-nonprofit/ MS Teams new presenter modes: https://www-theverge-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/3/2/22308927/microsoft-teams-presenter-mode-powerpoint-live-features OneNDA: https://onenda.club/

Have you ever wanted to know what legal ops looks like at Google? Or are you curious about what the President of CLOC thinks about the future of legal ops? We sat down with the inspiring Mary O’Carroll, Director of Operations, Technology and Strategy for the legal department at Google and President of CLOC, the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium. Mary, Alex and Elliot discussed many topics concerning legal operations and technology, including: * Mary’s journey to becoming one of the most influential leaders in legal operations * The structure of legal ops at Google and their tech stack * What legal ops looks like across the world and how it has grown * Why data is at the centre of everything for legal ops * Whether or not we are moving to more enterprise technology, at the expense of legal-specific technology * Mary’s view on the future of legal ops and technology LINKS Mary O’Carroll’s CLOC profile: https://cloc.org/about-cloc/ On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryshenocarroll/ On Twitter: https://twitter.com/maryocarroll?lang=en

Alex and Elliot chat about: * Gartner's five Legal Tech trends that are changing in-house legal departments * BankWest's new comic-like terms and conditions * an update on the Australian News Media Bargaining Code * a recent newspaper article outlining how law firms can do more with less (spoiler: via legal ops) * PWC accepting its first Bitcoin payment LINKS Gartner article: https://www.gartner.com/smarterwithgartner/5-legal-technology-trends-changing-in-house-legal-departments/ BankWest's visual T&Cs: https://www.bankwest.com.au/about-us/media-centre/news/pictures-make-a-thousand-words-in-visual-style-australia-first How law firms can do more with less: https://www.afr.com/companies/professional-services/how-law-firms-can-do-more-with-less-20210301-p576ox PWC's Bitcoin payment: https://www.ccn.com/big-4-accounting-giant-pwc-accepts-first-bitcoin-payment/

Karina Vazirova is a legal innovator, an experienced product developer and a specialist in user experience and design. Her agency, KV Labs, focuses on UX research, prototyping and design. She also co-founded FemTech Lab, Europe’s first FemTech accelerator. Karina, Elliot and Alex had an insightful chat focused on UX and design in a legal context, including: * Karina’s journey from being an international chess master to working in legal tech and then starting her own design agency. * What “user experience” means. * When user experience should be considered in a legal context. * How to obtain UX feedback by finding users and asking the right types of questions. * Why focusing on facts, and not opinions, is important when undertaking UX research. * The future of legal operations and technology. LINKS Karina Vazirova on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karinavazirova/ KV Labs: https://www.kv-labs.co/

In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot interview Tom Dunlop. He's the founder and CEO of Summize, which is a simple, lightweight and easy-to-use tool designed to make it quicker and easier for legal teams to review, summarise and draft contracts. LINKS Check out Summize: https://www.summize.com/ Contact Tom: tom@summize.com