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Interviews with writers, journalists, filmmakers, and podcasters about how they do their work. Hosted by Aaron Lammer, Max Linsky, and Evan Ratliff.
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May 25, 2016 • 59min
Episode 194: Pablo S. Torre
Pablo Torre is a senior writer at ESPN the Magazine and frequently appears on Around the Horn, PTI, and other ESPN shows.
“Most of my friends are not sports fans. My parents aren't. Brother and sister — no. So I just want to make things that they want to read. That's the big litmus test for me in deciding if a story is worth investing my time into: Is somebody who doesn’t give a shit about sports gonna be interested in this?”
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Show Notes:
@PabloTorre
Pablog
Torre on Longform
[07:00] Torre’s Harvard Crimson Archive
[11:00] "Fuck It We’ll Do It Live!" (YouTube)
[12:00] First Take
[12:00] "Raissman: Who will be Stephen A. Smith’s next foil on ESPN" (Bob Raissman • New York Daily News • Apr 2016)
[17:00] The Longform Guide to Nurses
[21:00] A Voice Crying in the Wilderness (Tony Kornheiser • Sports Illustrated • Apr 1983)
[23:00] Around the Horn
[25:00] "How (and Why) Athletes Go Broke" (Sports Illustrated • Mar 2009)
[28:00] "Sympathy for the Devil? Child Homicide, Victim Characteristics, and the Sentencing Preferences of the American Conscience" (Social Science Research Network • Mar 2007)
[33:00] Broke (30 for 30 • Oct 2012)
[35:00] "A Light In the Darkness" (Sports Illustrated • Jun 2010)
[40:00] "Larger Than Real Life" (Sports Illustrated • Jul 2011)
[42:00] "Where Are They Now? Mike Tyson" (Sports Illustrated • Aug 2010)
[43:00] "The Biggest Little Man in the World" (Andrew Corsello • GQ • Mar 2010)
[44:00] "Welcome To Manny’s World" (ESPN the Magazine • Apr 2015)
[45:00] "A Mystery Wrapped Inside An Enigma Shrouded In a Beard" (ESPN the Magazine • Oct 2015)
[45:00] "The Friendship That Divides the NBA" (ESPN the Magazine • May 2016)
[51:00] "Isolation Play" (ESPN the Magazine • Mar 2015)
[53:00] "Kobe Bryant Snaps After Lakers Practice, Calls Team 'Soft Like Charmin'" ( Mike Prada • SB Nation • Dec 2014)
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May 18, 2016 • 58min
Episode 193: Robin Marantz Henig
Robin Marantz Henig, the author of nine books, writes about science and medicine for The New York Times Magazine.
“I have my moments of thinking, ‘Well, why is this still so hard? Why do I still have to prove myself after all this time?’ If I were in a different field, or if I were even on a staff, I’d have a title that gave me more respect. I still have to wait just as long as any other writer to get any kind of response to a pitch. I still have to pitch. Nothing is automatic, even after all these years of working at this.”
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Show Notes:
@robinhenig
robinhenig.com
Henig on Longform
[2:00] "The Mastermind" (Evan Ratliff • The Atavist Magazine • Mar 2016)
[06:00] Vaginal Politics (Quadrangle Books • 1972)
[12:00] Writer’s Market 2016: The Most Trusted Guide to Getting Published (Robert Lee Brewer • Writer’s Digest Books • 2015)
[17:00] The Longform Guide to Nurses
[16:00] The Myth of Senility: The Truth About the Brain and Aging (Anchor Press • 1981)
[18:00] Authentic Happiness: Using the New Positive Psychology to Realize Your Potential for Lasting Fulfillment (Martin Seligman • Free Press • 2002)
[19:00] "AIDS: A New Disease’s Deadly Odyssey" (New York Times Magazine • Feb 1983)
[20:00] "The Deadly Spread of AIDS" (Claudia Wallis • Time • Sep 1982) [sub req'd]
[23:00] "The Genome in Black and White (and Gray)" (New York Times Magazine • Oct 2004)
[27:00] "Racing With Sam" (New York Times Magazine • Jan 2005)
[30:00] "A Life-or-Death Situation" (New York Times Magazine • Jul 2013)
[32:00] "The Last Day of Her Life" (New York Times Magazine • May 2015)
[36:00] "The Mysteries of Miscarriage" (Washington Post • Jul 1990)
[36:00] "If ‘Modern Bride’ Is a Has-Been, What Does That Make Me?" (Slate • Oct 2009)
[40:-0] "Visible Bra Straps" (USA Today • Jun 1998)
[41:00] "What Is It About 20-Somethings?" (New York Times Magazine • Aug 2010)
[41:00] Twentysomething: Why Do Young Adults Seem Stuck? (with Samantha Henig • Hudson Street Press • 2012)
[43:00] "Semi-Charmed Life" (Nathan Heller • New Yorker • Jan 2013)
[47:00] "If You Have Dementia, Can You Hasten Death As You Wished?" (Shots • Feb 2015)
[52:00] "Crossing Over: How Science Is Redefining Life and Death" (National Geographic • Apr 2016) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 11, 2016 • 42min
Episode 192: Seymour Hersh
Seymour Hersh is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and the author of The Killing of Osama Bin Laden.
“The government had denied everything we said. We just asked them and they said, ‘Oh no, not true, not true.’ That’s just—it’s all pro forma. You ask them to get their lie and you write their lie. I’m sorry to be so cynical about it, but that’s basically what it comes to.”
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Show Notes:
Hersh on Longform
[2:00] The Killing of Osama Bin Laden (Verso • 2016)
[15:00] "The My Lai Massacre" (St. Louis Post-Dispatch • Nov 1969)
[15:00] "The Scene of the Crime" (New Yorker • Mar 2015)
[21:00] "Defending the Arsenal" (New Yorker • Nov 2009)
[22:00] "The Deal" (New Yorker • Mar 2004)
[27:00] "Whose Sarin?" (London Review of Books • Dec 2013)
[28:00] "The Red Line and the Rat Line" (London Review of Books • Apr 2014)
[33:00] "The Killing of Osama bin Laden" (London Review of Books • May 2015)
[36:00] Zero Dark Thirty
[40:00] The Longform Guide to Nurses Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 4, 2016 • 58min
Episode 191: Kelly McEvers
Kelly McEvers, a former war correspondent, hosts NPR's All Things Considered and the podcast Embedded.
“Listeners want you to be real, a real person. Somebody who stumbles and fails sometimes. I think the more human you are, the more people can then relate to you. The whole point is not so everybody likes me, but it’s so people will want to take my hand and come along. It's so they feel like they trust me enough to come down the road with me. To do that, I feel like you need to be honest and transparent about what that road’s like.”
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Show Notes:
@kellymcevers
McEvers on Longform
[02:00] "How It Ends" (Lenny • Apr 2016)
[06:00] "Diary of a Bad Year: A War Correspondent’s Dilemma" (Transom • Jun 2013)
[08:00] "The Capital" (Embedded • Apr 2016)
[25:00] Friday Was the Bomb: Five Years in the Middle East (Nathan Deuel • Disquiet • 2014)
[28:00] All Things Considered
[38:00] Embedded
[39:00] Marketplace
[42:00] "The Fight for the Future of NPR" (Leon Neyfakh • Slate • Apr 2016)
[49:00] "Women of ‘The World’" (with Linnet Myers • Chicago Tribune • Mar 1999)
[49:00] "138: The Real Thing" (This American Life • Aug 1999) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 29, 2016 • 48min
Bonus Episode: Evan Ratliff
Evan Ratliff, a co-host of the Longform Podcast, discusses"The Mastermind,” his new 7-part serialized story in The Atavist Magazine.
“On several occasions [sources] didn’t want to go into the details of how they were identified. They were just like, ‘My safety is in your hands. Just be careful.’ And I didn’t really know what to do with that. I was sort of trying to balance what to include and what not to include and trying to make these decisions. Will Paul Le Roux know it’s this person? It’s impossible to know. I tried to err on the side of caution, but there’s no ethics hotline you can call and be like, ‘What do I do in this situation?’”
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Apr 27, 2016 • 43min
Episode 190: Susie Cagle
Susie Cagle is a journalist and illustrator.
“I don’t really know what it was that made me not quit. I still kind of wonder that. There have been many times over the last couple of years even, as things are taking off in my career, things are going well, I’m writing about wonderful things that are interesting to me, and I still wonder—should I be doing this? What the hell is next year gonna look like?”
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Show Notes:
@susie_c
susie-c.tumblr.com
[10:00] Cagle’s Curbed San Francisco Archive
[21:00] "The Free and the Antifree" (n+1 Editors • n+1 • Fall 2014)
[21:00] "Freedom Isn’t Antifree; Responding to Privilege"(with Manjula Martin • n+1 • Winter 2015)
[22:00] Who Pays Writers?
[30:00] "Is Wall Street Making a Killing off Cities’ Debt?" (Next City • Oct 2014)
[34:00] "Cartoonist Susie Cagle on Her Tear Gassing and Arrest While Covering Occupy Oakland" (Laura Hudson • Comics Alliance • Nov 2011)
[36:00] "Ledger #1: Spreadsheets > WORK > 2015 > By Gig" (Tiny Letter • Nov 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 20, 2016 • 1h 1min
Episode 189: Maciej Ceglowski
Maciej Ceglowski is the founder of Pinboard. He writes at Idle Words.
“My natural contrarianism makes me want to see if I can do something long-term in an industry where everything either changes until it's unrecognizable or gets sold or collapses. I like the idea of things on the web being persistent. And more basically, I reject this idea that everything has to be on a really short time scale just because it involves technology. We’ve had these computers around for a while now. It’s time we start treating them like everything else in our lives, where it kind of lives on the same time scale that we do and doesn’t completely fall off the end of the world every three or four years.”
Thanks to MailChimp, Audible, and Casper, and MIT Press for sponsoring this week's episode.
Show Notes:
@baconmeteor
idlewords.com
Ceglowski on Longform
[2:00] Pinboard
[2:00] The Bedbug Registry
[17:00] "The Internet With a Human Face" (YouTube)
[20:00] "Thoreau 2.0" (Idle Words • Sep 2013)
[27:00] The Longform Guide to Sleep (Presented by Casper)
[32:00] "The Alameda-Weehawken Burrito Tunnel" (Idle Words • Apr 2007)
[40:00] Mimi Smartypants
[41:00] "Send Idle Words to Antarctica" (Kickstarter • Jul 2015)
[46:00] "On Smarm" (Tom Scocca • Gawker • Dec 2013)
[47:00] "The Advertising Bubble" (Idle Words • Nov 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 13, 2016 • 56min
Episode 188: Nate Silver
Nate Silver is the founder of FiveThirtyEight and the author of The Signal and the Noise.
“I know in a perfectly rational world, if you make an 80/20 prediction, people should know that not only will this prediction not be right all the time, but you did something wrong if it’s never wrong. The 20% underdog should come through sometimes. People in sports understand that sometimes a 15 seed beats a 2 seed in the NCAA tournament. That’s much harder to explain to people in politics.”
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Show Notes:
@NateSilver538
fivethirtyeight.com
Silver on Longform
[2:00] FiveThirtyEight Podcasts
[2:00] "Why The Dean Scream Sounded So Different On TV" (Jody Avirgan, Clare Malone • FiveThirtyEight)
[10:00] The Burrito Bracket
[12:00] Silver’s Daily Kos Archive
[19:00] The Signal and the Noise: Why So Many Predictions Fail—but Some Don’t (Penguin Books • 2012)
[19:00] "FiveThirtyEight’s 2012 Forecast" (New York Times • Nov 2012)
[45:00] "Donald Trump Is the World’s Greatest Troll" (FiveThirtyEight • Jul 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 6, 2016 • 1h 19min
Episode 187: Elizabeth Gilbert
Elizabeth Gilbert has written for Spin, GQ, and The New York Times Magazine. She is the author of several books, including Eat, Pray, Love.
“I call it the platinum rule. The golden rule is do unto others as you would have them do unto you, but the platinum rule is even higher: don’t be a dick.”
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Show Notes:
@GilbertLiz
elizabethgilbert.com
Gilbert on Longform
[36:00] "Buckle Bunnies" (Spin • Sep 1994) [Google Books]
[39:00] Eat, Pray, Love: One Woman’s Search for Everything Across Italy, India and Indonesia (Riverhead Books • 2006)
[42:00] "The Last American Man" (GQ • Aug 2010)
[42:00] "The Ghost" (GQ • Aug 2010)
[42:00] "The Muse of the Coyote Ugly Saloon" (GQ • Jun 2012)
[42:00] "Dumb and Dumber" (Spin • Jul 1995) [Google Books]
[43:00] "Dead Rock West" (Spin • Aug 1996) [Google Books]
[48:58] "Play It Like Your Hair’s On Fire" (GQ • Jun 2002)
[49:00] "Gotta Dance!" (GQ • Dec 1998)
[1:02:00] Pilgrims (Houghton Mifflin • 1997)
[1:09:00] The Signature of All Things (Penguin Group • 2013)
[1:09:00] Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear (Riverhead Books • 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 30, 2016 • 47min
Episode 186: Gabriel Synder
Gabriel Snyder is the editor-in-chief of The New Republic.
“I had a new job, I was new to the place, and I came to it with a great deal of respect but didn’t feel like I had any special claim to it. But in that moment I realized that there were all of these people who wanted to see the place die. And that the only way The New Republic was going to continue was by someone wanting to see it continue, and I realized I was one of those people now.”
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Show Notes:
@gabrielsnyder
[03:00] "The Mastermind" (Evan Ratliff • The Atavist Magazine • Mar 2016)
[05:00] Inside
[05:00] "How Journalism’s New Golden Boy Got Thrown Out Of New Republic" (Warren St. John • Observer • May 1998)
[8:00] Longform Podcast #171: Adrian Chen
[17:00] "The New Republic Turns 100 Today. Here’s Our First Issue, Ever." (The New Republic Staff • The New Republic • Nov 2014)
[36:00] The New Republic on Longform
[37:00] "The Secret Lives of Tumblr Teens" (Elspeth Reeve • The New Republic • Feb 2016)
[39:00] "First, Let’s Get Rid of All the Bosses" (Roger D. Hodge • The New Republic • Oct 2015)
[39:00] "The Bot Bubble" (Doug Bock Clark • The New Republic • Apr 2015)
[41:00] "Bernie's Complaint" (Joshua Cohen • The New Republic • Feb 2016)
[41:00] "Beyond Good and Evil" (Clancy Martin • The New Republic • Mar 2016)
[41:00] "Lost in Trumplandia" (Patricia Lockwood • The New Republic • Mar 2016)
[43:00] "At War in the Garden of Eden" (Jen Percy • The New Republic • Aug 2015) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices