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May 28, 2024 • 19min

115. The Strength to Defeat OCD: Insights from a Young Author's Journey with Ella Kim

Have you ever wondered what it would be like to have a loved one - your sister, brother, or daughter - battling with intrusive thoughts and engaging in relentless rituals due to OCD? How can families effectively provide the necessary support to help them navigate OCD's grip on their daily lives?  In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast,  we have the pleasure of conversing with an extraordinary young author, Ella Kim, whose personal story and literary contributions are making waves in the world of mental health advocacy. Ella Kim is a high school student who has authored "How to Defeat Bully Brain," a book that serves as a beacon of hope for children and families grappling with OCD.Ella's motivation to pen this book was deeply personal; her brother's diagnosis with OCD at a tender age was the catalyst that propelled her into action. In our conversation, Ella discusses her brother's struggle with OCD, the impact on her family, and the importance of proper support and understanding. She shares her family's journey, including her brother's improvement after a gap year program abroad. Ella also talks about her nonprofit, “OCD Detectives” and her upcoming book on various OCD manifestations.    In This Episode [01:35] - The idea behind writing the book. [02:04] - Navigating OCD as a family [03:11] - Challenges and frustration [06:12] - Impact on the family [08:02] - Creating a story about OCD [09:59] - The staircase method [11:15] - Spreading awareness through a book [12:11] - Different types of obsessions and compulsions [14:31] - Understanding the changing nature of OCD [15:30] - Defining OCD [16:43] - Recovery and struggle [18:06] - Tools and understanding [18:30] - Contact information   Notable Quotes [02:07]” I went into this deep dive and I kind of looked at OCD resources out there, and I found that there weren't that many children's books that were like workbooks that kind of went into how to deal with your OCD.” -Ella [05:16] “There's times when your OCD is worse and when it's better. And so sometimes when just OCD would be worse, it would kind of impact the entire family." -Ella [06:12] "Initially, everyone got frustrated because of the mess, but then you have to look past that and realize that he just needs more help rather than getting mad at him." Ella [07:14] "Remind them constantly to say no to OCD and give them reasons why, like not having to spend hours a day washing your hands or not feeling uncomfortable for over half the day." -Ella [17:36] "During his gap year, even without active therapy, being preoccupied with volunteer work abroad helped him improve significantly."-Ella   Our Guest Ella Kim, a high school student from New York City, has a keen interest in psychology and the treatment of mental and behavioral disorders. Motivated by her brother's diagnosis of OCD at a young age, she decided to write "How to Defeat Bully Brain" to assist young children and their families in combating OCD.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Ella Kim https://defeatbullybrain.com/ https://www.instagram.com/ocd_detectives/   Mentioned Book: How to Defeat Bully Brain: A Story About OCD **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!
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May 14, 2024 • 22min

114. OCD Advocacy: A Mother's Quest to Build Community Support with Kim Vincenty

Imagine this: your ten-year-old son is diagnosed with OCD, and you witness the daily struggles he faces. Through the transformative power of proper treatment, you see him begin to thrive. Yet, in a world where many are lost and unsure how to find resources, access care, or even recognize the signs, you're compelled to take action. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Kim Vincenty. Kim is a remarkable woman whose personal experience with OCD has led her to become a staunch advocate for mental health education and support. She is also the founder of the JACK Mental Health Advocacy organization and a recent recipient of the IOCDF Hero award.  In our conversation, Kim shares her personal journey with her son's OCD diagnosis and how it inspired her to help others. We discuss JACK's initiatives, including the Access to Care program, Pediatric OCD Camp, and training for clinicians. The conversation highlights the importance of community, early intervention, and parental support in managing OCD. Kim's commitment to improving mental health education and resources for families shines through as she details her advocacy work.   In This Episode [00:42]Introduction to Kim Vincenty [01:38] Kim's journey into OCD advocacy [03:28] Kim's experiences supporting families and caregivers [06:12] Overview of the JACK Mental Health Advocacy  [08:13] The Access to Care program [09:23] The Pediatric OCD Camp program [09:37] Benefits of the Pediatric OCD Camp program [15:47] Parent involvement in the Pediatric OCD Camp [17:34] Motivating and supporting children with OCD [20:01] The impact of Advocacy   Notable Quotes [01:38] “I'm the mother of someone that lives with OCD. He was diagnosed when he was ten years old, and it quickly spiraled out of control.” -Kim [03:28] "I stayed up all night obsessing about it... I just kind of dug in my heels and decided I was going to learn everything I could because my kid was not going down under my watch."- Kim [08:04] “We're starting a network of clinicians that are willing to work with us to provide care for people that would otherwise receive no treatment at all.” -Kim [12:31] “No matter where you go or if you have OCD or not, you have to have opportunities to get comfortable with uncertainty and discomfort.”-Kim [15:02] “If the parents are engaged and everybody's on the same page, the treatment outcomes are better.”-Kim    Our Guest Kim Vincenty is a devoted mother, wife, and OCD advocate, with over 12 years of experience fostering community and aiding families in finding the best resources for mental health, education, intervention, and recovery. As the former president of OCD Jacksonville, an affiliate of the international OCD Foundation, Kim's advocacy work earned her the prestigious IOCDF Hero Award. She is an active speaker, support group facilitator, and the founder and president of JACK Mental Health, dedicated to promoting mental health awareness and providing support to those in need. Kim's passion, dedication, and tireless advocacy make her a respected figure in the mental health community. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Kim Vincenty https://jackmha.org/team/ https://www.facebook.com/jackmha.org https://www.instagram.com/jack_mha/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064234050479   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!
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Apr 30, 2024 • 21min

113. How Does False Memory OCD Differ from Other Types of OCD with Alnardo Martinez

Can you imagine a nightly battle where the battleground isn't just your bed, but your own mind? Welcome to the sleepless world of individuals wrestling with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), where intrusive thoughts, compulsions, and the haunting spectre of false memories turn the quest for rest into a Herculean task. In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with mental health counsellor Alnardo Martinez to discuss the difficulties people with OCD encounter when trying to sleep, focusing on the impact of intrusive thoughts, compulsions, and particularly false memory OCD. Martinez offers strategies to manage rumination and improve sleep hygiene, such as using guided meditations and accepting uncertainty. He also emphasizes the importance of working with a therapist and tailoring treatment approaches like ERP, CBT, or ACT to individual needs. The episode concludes with resources for listeners and encouragement for those on their journey to overcoming OCD.   In This Episode [01:20] Understanding the impact of OCD on sleep. [02:23] Common issues with sleep and OCD. [03:52] Strategies for improving sleep hygiene. [06:01] Addressing intrusive thoughts and compulsions. [08:04] Supporting a loved one with OCD and sleep issues. [13:31] Understanding false memory OCD and its impact on sleep. [16:35] False memory OCD and sleep. [17:16] Neutralizing rumination. [18:50] Accepting uncertainty.   Notable Quotes [02:23] "I think a lot of the clients I work with will often say that sleep is a big factor. It's usually interrupted, they get poor sleep, or the quality of sleep isn't good." [08:04] "I think first you want to try to validate those feelings. You want to try to not be dismissive. You don't really want to say, 'Oh, it's not a big deal, just go to sleep.'" [14:24]"What tends to happen, more so like compulsion-wise, could be replaying situations over and over in their mind, trying to convince themselves, 'No, I remember checking out, I remember buying these things.'" [16:35]"This person could be an adult and have a false memory that something happened to them when they were six years old, and that's really not a situation you're going to be able to go back and find any evidence of happening or not happening." [17:16] "I recognize that this is an OCD thought. I may not ever have full understanding of whether this did or didn't happen, and I'm going to work on being accepting of that." [19:21]  "If you're taking an ERP approach, it should be a gradual approach. Maybe you're not sitting with that feeling for something that's a really distressing false memory thought; maybe you've started with one that's a little less anxiety-producing."     Our Guest Alnardo Martinez, a Licensed Mental Health Counselor at the Child Mind Institute, brings over 10 years of expertise in diagnosing and treating OCD and anxiety disorders in children and adolescents. Certified in administering the ADOS-2, he employs tailored interventions such as CBT, ERP, mindfulness, and ACT techniques. Fluent in Spanish, Alnardo conducts workshops on children's mental health and provides bilingual neuropsychological evaluations, dedicated to empowering youth to thrive.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Alnardo Martinez https://www.linkedin.com/in/alnardo/ https://childmind.org/bio/alnardo-martinez-ms/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!
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Apr 16, 2024 • 27min

112. How to Support BIPOC Clinicians and Individuals Living with OCD with Bianca Simmons & Erin Nghe

Have you ever considered the profound impact of justice-oriented treatment in the context of OCD, particularly when it intersects with sensitive issues like race-based OCD? How do we create an environment where individuals, especially those from BIPOC communities, feel safe to openly discuss their fears and intrusive thoughts without the burden of judgment or dismissiveness? In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are delighted to welcome Bianca Simmons and Erin Nghe from ERP Kaleidoscope to discuss justice-oriented OCD treatment. They explore how to support BIPOC clinicians and individuals with OCD, emphasizing the need for a safe, empowering environment. The co-founders share insights on incorporating justice into ERP therapy and tackling race-based OCD. They advocate for diversity, clinician empowerment, and education on sensitive OCD themes, providing practical advice for therapists to effectively address these issues in their practice. In This Episode [00:03]Introduction to Bianca Simmons and Erin Nghe [02:39] Explanation of the name ERP Kaleidoscope [05:28] The concept of justice-oriented OCD treatment [07:57]Strategies to support BIPOC clinicians [10:17] Concrete example of justice-oriented ERP [11:47] Client's race-based OCD [13:56] Empowerment and advocacy for clinicians [15:46] Tangible exposures for clients [18:00] The importance of understanding core fears [19:41] Intersectionality in OCD treatment [23:04] Educating clinicians on cultural awareness [24:08] Impact on access and quality of care [25:58] Contact information for further support   Notable Quotes [03:04] “ERP kaleidoscope is all about uplifting the voices of BIPOC clinicians who specialize in OCD as well as the individuals.”- Bianca  [04:25] “Oftentimes when people think about OCD, they think about the suffering, and it's really hard to see the beauty. And so we really wanted to highlight how ERP brings out that beauty.”- Erin  [06:58] “BIPOC clinicians have to be able to feel safe because that's the only way that they can not only do good work with BIPOC individuals living with OCD but all individuals that have OCD.” -Erin [17:12] “Some clinicians of color have no idea that there is this theme that also latches on to race and so that can be very blindsiding.”- Erin  [20:42] “What we're trying to do at ERP kaleidoscope as well, building those safe spaces in terms of healing circles, and just allowing that time for clinicians to be able to heal.”- Bianca     Our Guests Bianca Simmons, an OCD specialist, co-founded ERP Kaleidoscope and owns Bianca Simmons LLC, a mental health private practice in Texas. With extensive experience in severe OCD treatment, she transitioned from managing a residential facility to providing outpatient therapy. Committed to accessibility, she focuses on supporting individuals from underrepresented communities and minority populations, ensuring they have access to the quality mental health assistance they need and deserve. Erin Nghe is a licensed clinical social worker, psychotherapist, and co-founder of ERP Kaleidoscope, a network association supporting Bipoc individuals with OCD and therapists interested in OCD treatment. With 15+ years of experience, she's also the owner and Clinical Director of OCD Set Free, training therapists along the East Coast in Ethical OCD Treatment. Erin advocates for OCD awareness, serving on the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Action Council of the International OCD Foundation and as a faculty member for their Behavioral Therapy Training Institute.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Bianca Simmons https://www.biancasimmonslpc.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-bianca-simmons/ https://www.instagram.com/therapywithbianca https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064234050479 Erin Nghe https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinnghe/ https://www.ocdsetfree.com/ https://www.instagram.com/ocdsetfree/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!
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Apr 1, 2024 • 23min

111. The Shocking Truth About OCD Stigma Revealed with Alexandra Reynolds

Guest Alexandra Reynolds, mental health student and IOCDF Advocate, discusses overcoming stigma in marginalized communities, cultural differences in mental health, family dynamics, self-acceptance, and the importance of building supportive communities for OCD recovery.
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Mar 19, 2024 • 27min

110. Empowering OCD Recovery: A Journey of Skill-Building with Mark Freeman

In our ever-evolving understanding of mental health, we often fixate on finding a cure or a quick fix for conditions like OCD. But what if we reframed our approach to embrace a journey of skill-building instead? This powerful concept lies at the core of Mark's advocacy for individuals living with OCD. Join us in today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, where we're thrilled to welcome Mark Freeman, a renowned mental fitness coach and author of "You Are Not a Rock." With over 4 million views on his YouTube channel, Mark's empowering approach to mental health is both refreshing and inspiring. During our conversation, we delve into the concept of OCD recovery, emphasizing skill development over the idea of being "recovered." Mark uses the analogy of learning to swim to illustrate managing life with OCD, highlighting adaptability and setting intentions to stay present amidst intrusive thoughts. We also explore the "uncertainty budget" and the impact of a rapidly changing world on mental health. Join us for insights into gradual tool adoption and the importance of avoiding instant solutions. Don't miss out!   In This Episode [00:57] Mark Freeman's YouTube channel [03:10] Approaching recovery [05:42] Flexibility in mental health [07:46] Understanding recovery [08:51] Tools for managing OCD [13:30] Sitting with fear [15:57] Quality time with friends and intrusive thoughts [16:41] Setting intentions in social situations [17:35] Cutting out compulsions and fears [19:37] Starting with the basics [20:24] Accepting imperfection and practice [22:14] Adapting to modern-day stress [23:09] Managing uncertainty budget [25:08] Gratitude and finding stability Notable Quotes [03:57] "What helped me is approaching recovery as more like learning how to swim." -Mark [17:35]"I want to get good at having conversations with people in choppy water while having angry monsters and intrusive thoughts, and that's what I'm going there to practice." - Mark [18:37] "I've been teaching my brain all day through all these kind of normal activities that we should control what other people think, so it's natural I'll just want to keep doing that in that situation."- Mark [25:52]” Everybody, take care of your uncertainty budget; you don't have uncertainty credit cards, you can't go over budget.- Mark   Our Guests Mark Freeman is a seasoned data strategist likening data management to racing - a vital yet often overlooked component. With a passion for integrating data seamlessly into tech ecosystems, he champions the concept of "shifting data left," advocating for collaboration between data and software engineering teams. Mark's expertise lies in optimizing data flow, ensuring businesses harness their data assets effectively for success.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Mark Freeman https://www.linkedin.com/in/mafreeman2/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJzijIM4ED3ukn0GJRWZwhw https://www.instagram.com/markwfreeman/ https://linktr.ee/mwfree YT/everybodyhasabrain Mentioned Book You Are Not a Rock:https://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Rock-Step-Step/dp/0143132601   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!
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Mar 5, 2024 • 36min

109. How to Sidestep ERP Pitfalls for the Detail-Minded with Ben Eckstein

Have you ever wondered why some people don't seem to have success with ERP therapy, despite its proven effectiveness?  ERP has helped countless individuals regain control of their lives and find relief from the debilitating symptoms that often accompany anxiety disorders. However, it's essential to recognize that despite the effectiveness of ERP therapy, there are common mistakes that people make which can hinder their progress In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, sit down with Ben Eckstein, a renowned expert in the treatment of anxiety and OCD, and the owner and director of City Anxiety and OCD Treatment Center in Durham, North Carolina. During our conversation, we explore the nuances of treating OCD with exposure and response prevention (ERP). We discuss the importance of managing mental compulsions and rumination, emphasizing the need for a diverse set of coping skills and intentional practice. Our conversation also covers the influence of attachment styles on OCD and the significance of addressing underlying psychological factors. Ben shares insights on building trust in relationships and concludes by discussing his book, "Worrying is Optional."   In This Episode [00:43] Introduction to Ben [01:26] Ben’s involvement with OCD North Carolina [02:59] Identifying ERP pitfalls [04:46] White knuckling and acceptance [06:19] Approaching uncomfortable feelings [15:57] Managing downtime and mental compulsions [25:38] Developing diverse coping skills [28:17] Attachment theory in the context of OCD [31:13] Trusting in yourself and others [32:38] The role of experiential learning    Notable Quotes [05:32] "Acceptance is a process, it's not an outcome." - Ben [12:34] “I think that process of worrying, ruminating all the, the sort of over-analysis and examination that we do, these are complicated behaviors.” -Ben  [29:23]” I always think OCD is lazy. Like it's going to take the easiest path to like, hey, like where is this person vulnerable.” -Ben   Our Guests Ben Eckstein is the owner and director of Bull City Anxiety & OCD Treatment Center, he moved from Massachusetts to North Carolina in 2014. Trained at McLean Hospital’s OCD Institute, he boasts over a decade of experience in treating OCD and Anxiety Disorders. Serving as VP of OCD North Carolina, Ben offers training and workshops, alongside his clinical work. He is also the author of  "Worrying is Optional" a book that tackles anxiety and rumination head-on.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Ben Eckstein https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-eckstein-ba395919/ https://www.bullcityanxiety.com/ https://www.instagram.com/bullcityanxiety/ Mentioned Worrying Is Optional   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!
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Feb 20, 2024 • 26min

108. How Can Genetic Factors Impact OCD and Addiction? with Dr. Evelyn Higgins

Dr. Evelyn Higgins discusses how genetic factors can influence OCD and addiction, highlighting the role of personalized lab work and environmental triggers. They explore the correlation between OCD and addiction, emphasizing the importance of understanding genetic predispositions for informed choices. The podcast also touches on the affordability and accessibility of personalized treatment and services offered by Wired Bio Health.
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Feb 6, 2024 • 22min

107. Why OCD is NOT a Life Sentence with Erica Lugo

Not many people fully disclose their journey with OCD. Perhaps it's the fear of acceptance or the weight of society's stigma that keeps them silent. But what if we told you that an OCD diagnosis doesn't mean a life sentence of struggle and despair? The healing starts with a simple, yet daring act - opening up.  In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Erica Lugo, a remarkable guest whose journey with OCD is both inspiring and enlightening. Erica's story begins with an abrupt onset of OCD symptoms that turned her life upside down. She found herself grappling with intense anxiety, sleepless nights, and a sense of dysfunction that she couldn't shake off. During our conversation, we discuss Erica's journey with OCD. Erica shares her initial struggle with the sudden onset of symptoms, the challenges of accepting her diagnosis, and her quest for effective treatment. She talks about the importance of addressing both the physical and psychological aspects of OCD, the impact of her public persona on her decision to be open about her condition, and the need to break the stigma surrounding mental health. In This Episode [01:05] - Erica’s Journey with OCD [02:39] - Experiences with diagnosis and treatment [05:50] - Challenges of finding appropriate treatment [05:54] - The impact of hormonal imbalance on OCD symptoms [07:40] - The use of ERP therapy [11:14] - Erica's experience as a public figure with OCD [13:39] - Transformation and healing [14:30] - The impact of OCD on life [15:19] - The importance of daily practice in managing OCD. [16:44] - Embracing the diagnosis of OCD [18:59] - The realization that compulsions are not always physical [20:02] - The impact of medication on OCD Notable Quotes [01:44] “I'm someone who I felt like I've never had any mental health battles my whole life. I've never had anxiety or depression or OCD until all of a sudden, I feel like a light switch just kind of went off.” - Erica [14:49] “In OCD, it's not a life sentence, but OCD will tell you it is.” - Erica [15:40] “It is okay to not know what's going to happen next, and it's okay to be okay with the unknown and learn to accept that.” - Erica [20:02] "Medication may not work for you, may make you sick or worse, as it did for me, but just keep going because you can get through it without medication if that's the path for you." - Erica Our Guest Erica Lugo, known from "Biggest Loser" and as a women's wellness influencer, is a loving wife and mom. Passionate about fitness, she shares tips and embraces all things Halloween and dogs. Erica, diagnosed with OCD, courageously advocates mental health awareness, inspiring others to overcome challenges. Through social media, she spreads positivity, making her a relatable and uplifting figure for those seeking a healthier, happier life. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Kristina Orlova’s headshot courtesy of https://www.corporateheadshots.ai/ Erica Lugo https://stan.store/EricaFitLove https://www.instagram.com/ericafitlove/ **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!
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Jan 23, 2024 • 30min

106. Saved or Sinful? Understanding Scrupulosity's Grip on Faith with Justin Hughes

Do thoughts of religious sin and moral purity consume your every waking moment, leaving you trapped in a never-ending cycle of guilt and doubt? In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast we are joined by Justin Hughes, a licensed professional counselor with dual expertise in psychology and theology, Justin brings to the table a wealth of vital knowledge on the intersection of faith and OCD. During our conversation, we shine a light on a lesser-known facet of OCD: scrupulosity. This variant explores an individual's deepest discomforts, tapping into their spiritual beliefs and creating perplexing doubts. We explore how intrusive thoughts affect individuals with faith-based OCD, providing examples like doubts about salvation or the correctness of prayers. The discussion also covers the challenges of treating scrupulosity, particularly within a religious context, and how exposure and acceptance commitment therapy can align with Christian values. In This Episode [02:36] - Understanding Scrupulosity [09:46] - Challenges and internal conflict [13:11] - Approach to treatment [16:57] - Importance of honesty and truthfulness in treatment [18:49] - Facing scrupulosity and superstitious obsessions [19:41] - Overcoming avoidance behaviors [23:07] - Paralyzing impact of scrupulosity [24:19] - Challenges in exposure therapy for scrupulosity [26:21] - Building trust and vulnerability in recovery [27:49] - Finding community and support Notable Quotes [07:32]” Most of the time, the person with OCD is, in my experience, usually pretty clear about the perspective. What they're trying to get clear on is the feeling and the fact that it feels like they're in a bad place.” - Justin [10:36] "There's hope. You're not alone; there's help. Many, many, many are walking this road currently, and many have done it before.'" - Justin  [13:41] "Thoughts, whether random or intrusive, reside within us. The key is acknowledging their presence and shining light on the truth." - Justin [23:39] “I don't think scrupulosity is worse than contamination. I don't think contamination is worse than scrupulosity.” - Justin Our Guest Justin Hughes is a licensed professional counselor and owner of Dallas Counseling. He is a dedicated clinician and writer committed to supporting individuals affected by OCD. As a member of the OCD and Faith Task Force and Dallas Ambassador for OCD Texas, he leverages dual training in psychology and theology to explore the intersection of faith and OCD, offering diverse clients valuable insights and assistance. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Justin Hughes https://www.justinkhughes.com/ https://www.instagram.com/justinkhugheslpc/ **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

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