The OCD Whisperer Podcast with Kristina Orlova

🧠 Do you ever feel like something is wrong — even when nothing happened?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with Heather Brown, LCSW, OCD and trauma specialist. Together, they explore Just Right OCD, magical thinking, somatic anxiety, and how OCD can sometimes feel like trauma.   Heather opens up about: • Her personal experience living with Just Right OCD • Sensations-based OCD: when the fear isn’t a thought, but a feeling • Magical thinking OCD & “what if something bad happens?” spirals • ERP, ACT, Brainspotting & CPT for trauma-related OCD symptoms   Whether you're navigating OCD yourself or supporting someone, this episode offers powerful insight, tools, and hope for healing and self-trust.   📲 About Heather Brown (guest): • OCD, anxiety, trauma, & perfectionism therapy • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evoluercounseling/ • Evoluer Counseling: https://www.evoluercounseling.com/   ✂️ TIMESTAMPS: [00:00] Meet Heather — The Therapist Who Actually Has OCD [00:22] “Just-Right OCD” — The Invisible OCD Nobody Talks About [01:30] When Everyday Tasks Feel Wrong — The Hidden Somatic OCD Signs [02:28] Shower Shock — When OCD Strikes Out of Nowhere [03:25] The Symptom Everyone Misses: “Nothing Happened… So WHY Do I Feel This Way?” [03:44] The OCD You Don’t See — Why So Many Cases Get Missed [04:25] It’s NOT Just Anxiety — The Quiet OCD That Hides in Your Body [04:53] When Thoughts Loop Forever — The Difference Between Worry & OCD [06:05] “If I Don’t Do This, Something Terrible Happens” — OCD’s Magic-Thinking Trap [07:00] Real Story — The Carpool Lane OCD Panic Moment [07:47] What Is Magical Thinking OCD? Explained Simply [08:52] “My Thoughts Could Cause Disaster” — Why It Feels So Real [09:21] Can OCD Cause Trauma? Shocking Truth Explained [10:10] When Trauma and OCD Join Forces — And What Actually Helps [11:04] The Brain Under Fire — How OCD Shakes Your Identity [12:20] How OCD Rewrites Your Beliefs About Yourself [13:15] Trauma Treatment + OCD Treatment — When You Need Both [14:20] ERP, ACT, Brainspotting — What REALLY Works? [15:07] The Surprising Therapy That Helps Trauma + OCD [16:35] “Is My OCD Trauma?” — How Clinicians Decide [18:27] Obsession vs Worry — How to Tell the Difference FAST [19:33] Can Treatment Work? Heather’s Recovery & Honest Answer [20:25] When OCD Comes Back — Expert Shares What She Does [21:40] OCD Explained in Kid-Language — The Monster Analogy [23:00] The Cookie Monster OCD Trick — Why Compulsions Backfire [24:06] “How Do I Even Start?” — First Step for Anyone Struggling [25:17] Where to Find Heather — Therapist Who Gets It   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@theocdwhisperer.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords Just Right OCD Magical Thinking OCD Somatic OCD OCD and trauma OCD in children Feeling-based OCD OCD without intrusive thoughts OCD sensations ERP therapy Brainspotting OCD ACT for OCD How to treat Just Right OCD OCD parenting support OCD recovery stories   © OCD Whisperer

🧠 Could Your Child’s Sudden OCD Be Something Else? Understanding PANS & PANDAS   In this powerful episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with Angela Henry, therapist and PANS/PANDAS specialist, and Lindsay Forsyth, a mother and advocate who has navigated this journey with her own child. Together, they shed light on how sudden-onset OCD, tics, and anxiety in children may sometimes point to something deeper — an autoimmune or inflammatory disorder known as PANS or PANDAS.   Angela and Lindsay open up about: • How PANS/PANDAS can mimic OCD and anxiety — and why it’s often misdiagnosed • The emotional toll families face when doctors can’t find answers • How infection-triggered inflammation can alter behavior overnight • What every parent should know about early warning signs of PANS/PANDAS   Whether you’re a parent, caregiver, or clinician, this episode offers clarity, validation, and practical tools to navigate the confusing intersection of OCD, PANS, and PANDAS.   📲 About Angela Henry (guest): • Certified EMDR Therapist • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ctr_for_collaborative_healing/ • Webpage: https://angelahenrylcsw.com/ 📲 About Lindsey Forsyth (guest): • Mom of 2 kids with PANS/PANDAS. • Pandas network: https://pandasnetwork.org/ • PANS PANDAS Advocacy, Community & Support Aspire • Neuro Immune: https://neuroimmune.org/   ✂️ TIMESTAMPS: [00:00] Welcome — Meet Lindsay, Angela, and Kristina [01:05] PANS & PANDAS Revealed — How Your Child’s Brain Can Turn Against Them Overnight [01:50] The Infection Trigger — Strep, Viruses, and Environmental Factors That Can Hijack a Child’s Mind [02:57] Recognizing Abrupt Neuropsychiatric Symptoms in Kids [03:24] PANS vs PANDAS — The Shocking Differences You Need to Know [03:42] “Something’s Not Right” — How Parents Can Spot the Early Warning Signs [05:05] Lindsey’s Story — From Meltdowns to Mystery Illness [07:48] The Specialists Who Saved Our Child [09:12] Lifelines for Parents [10:02] Why Your Child Can Suddenly Regress Without Warning [10:45] Tracking the Chaos — Growth Charts, OCD Scores, and Why Labs Don’t Always Show the Truth [11:06] The Hidden Diagnosis — Blood Work Says “Normal” but Your Child Isn’t [12:27] Advocacy 101 — How to Get Answers When Doctors Don’t Have Them [14:13] How to Make Sure Your Pediatrician Takes You Seriously [15:53] Therapy That Helps — How to Support Children [17:54] Not Just Bad Behavior — Why Your Child Isn’t Misbehaving [20:09] Supporting the Whole Family [22:00] Covert OCD Revealed — When Your Child’s Obsessions Don’t Look Like OCD [23:47] Why ERP Can Backfire During a Flare [25:12] Pediatric OCD Exposed — Obsessions, Separation Anxiety, and the Hidden Signs [27:44] Heavy-Hitter Symptoms — Emotional Outbursts, Bedwetting, ADHD... [29:03] Are Some Kids Genetically Predisposed? [30:26] Could Family History Play a Role? [31:17] Step-by-Step Guidance — Therapy [32:24] Get Help Now —How to Contact Lindsay and Access Real-World Resources [33:32] Therapist Support & Networks — Angela’s Consultation Groups for Families and Professionals [35:09] Closing Words — Hope, Awareness, and Why You’re Not Alone   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@theocdwhisperer.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords • PANS and PANDAS OCD • sudden onset OCD in children • pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric disorders • OCD vs PANS • children’s mental health • autoimmune inflammation and OCD • OCD parenting support • anxiety in kids   © OCD Whisperer

Is everything you’ve been told about OCD wrong?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova sits down with Elysse Lescarbeau, writer, advocate, and author of OCD Exposed: 10 Myths and Misconceptions About Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Together, they uncover the hidden sides of OCD—from misunderstood symptoms to the powerful truth about recovery.   Elysse opens up about: • Being misdiagnosed and discovering OCD later in life • Living with mental compulsions and invisible obsessions • The breaking point that led to her diagnosis and healing • How ERP, ACT, and ICBT changed her life and mindset This honest conversation dives into: • The biggest myths and misconceptions about OCD • The hidden forms of OCD most people never see • How OCD recovery rewires your brain and restores hope • Real stories of survival, recovery, and empowerment   Whether you’re navigating OCD yourself or supporting someone you love, this episode offers hope, clarity, and practical tools for real recovery.   📲 About Elysse Lescarbaugh (guest): Certified life coach + future therapist OCD & Anxiety Survivor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ocd.or.just.me Webpage: https://www.ocdorjustme.com/   ✂️ TIMESTAMPS [00:00] “I Thought My Brain Was Broken” — Meet Elysse, Who Discovered OCD at 29 [00:57] The Childhood Moment That Changed Everything: Protecting Her Little Brother Became an Obsession [01:45] Silent Struggles: Living Decades with OCD No One Could See [02:30] The Breaking Point: When Compulsions Suddenly Stopped Working in Europe [03:15] “I Don’t Want to Live Anymore” — The Night She Finally Asked for Help [03:45] The Doctor Who Changed Her Life With One Sentence: “Have You Ever Considered OCD?” [04:30] The Power of Honesty: How One Conversation Opened the Door to Recovery [05:15] From Despair to Diagnosis — The Moment Everything Made Sense [05:50] Why OCD Isn’t About Cleaning or Order — The Biggest Myth Everyone Believes [06:45] How the Media Got OCD All Wrong (and Why It Still Hurts Real People) [07:30] The Hidden Type of OCD No One Talks About: Mental Compulsions & Rumination [08:40] The Book That’s Changing the Conversation — OCD Exposed: 10 Myths & Misconceptions [09:35] Why OCD Doesn’t Define Who You Are — And How to See It Clearly [10:14] The Human Side of OCD: Real Survivor Stories from Around the World [11:00] The Truth About OCD Recovery: It’s Not Easy, But It’s Possible [11:50] What OCD Really Feels Like — Beyond the Stereotypes and Statistics [12:40] The Science of Recovery: How ERP, ACT & ICBT Rewire the Brain [13:30] “I Still Get Intrusive Thoughts… But They Don’t Control Me Anymore.” [14:40] OCD and the Brain: Why It’s Not a Personality Flaw, But a Biological Cycle [15:55] Breaking the Cycle: What Actually Helps the Brain Heal from OCD [17:00] Freedom Over Fear: How to Live Fully Even When OCD Shows Up [18:15] Why Recovery Isn’t About Getting Rid of OCD — It’s About Taking Your Life Back [19:20] Applying OCD Tools to Everyday Life — From Therapy to Surfing in Hawaii [20:25] How OCD Recovery Teaches You to Live Stronger, Freer, and More Present [21:15] How ERP Helped Kristina Heal Her Own Grief After Losing Her Mom [22:45] The Real Secret: Empowerment Through Discomfort and Acceptance [23:30] “I’ve Never Felt More Empowered Than in My OCD Recovery.” — Elysse’s Message of Hope [24:20] Where to Find Elysse, Her Book OCD Exposed, and Why This Story Matters   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords • OCD myths and misconceptions • OCD recovery stories • Intrusive thoughts and mental compulsions • ERP and ACT therapy • ICBT for OCD • Living with OCD • How to recover from OCD • OCD Awareness Week   © OCD Whisperer

What happens when your mind turns against you — and fills you with thoughts you can’t control?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with Maurice, creator of the Obsessless app — a powerful new tool designed to support people living with OCD. Maurice opens up about his terrifying first intrusive thoughts, years of misdiagnosis, and how ERP therapy and mindset work helped him turn pain into purpose.   Together, we explore: • The hidden side of OCD most people never see • How intrusive thoughts can completely take over your life • What it really takes to heal when therapy isn’t immediately available • The creation of Obsessless — and why tech could change OCD recovery forever   Whether you’re currently navigating OCD or supporting someone who is, this episode offers raw truth, hope, and tools for reclaiming your mind.   📲 About Mourice Schuurmans (guest): Co-founder of ObsessLess OCD Survivor & Advocate Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/obsessless_mourice/ ObsessLess App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/obsessless-ocd-treatment-app/id6742539895   ✂️ TIMESTAMPS: [00:00] From Suffering to Solution: Meet Maurice, Creator of Obsessless [00:57] “Something’s Not Right…” — The Childhood Clues Everyone Missed [01:45] 21 Years of Misdiagnosis: When OCD Hides Behind “General Anxiety” [02:30] The Date That Changed Everything: When Intrusive Thoughts Strike Out of Nowhere [03:20] “I Thought I’d Hurt Someone” — Living Through the Scariest OCD Theme [04:15] Waiting 8 Months for Help: What Happens When the System Fails You [06:45] Rock Bottom: Trapped on a Chair, Fighting Thoughts You Can’t Escape [07:30] How His Dad Accidentally Did Exposure Therapy in the Backyard [08:20] The Turning Point: Finding Mark Freeman & Discovering He Wasn’t Alone [09:00] “I Wouldn’t Wish This on My Worst Enemy” — The Real Pain of OCD [10:15] ERP Therapy Explained: What Actually Helped Him Heal [11:06] Why EMDR Isn’t for OCD (and What Is) [11:48] The Harsh Truth: Why OCD Recovery Takes Time (and Why That’s Okay) [13:30] How to Stop Being Afraid of Your Own Thoughts [15:42] The Secret to Living Peacefully With Intrusive Thoughts [16:40] “I Still Get the Thoughts… I Just Don’t Care Anymore.” [18:10] From Patient to Creator: How Obsessless Was Born [19:22] Inside the App: The SOS Feature That Saves People in Crisis [20:43] Meet OLLIE — The AI OCD Companion That Won’t Reassure You [22:22] “We’re Lowering the Barrier to OCD Treatment.” — Maurice’s Mission [22:55] Where to Find Maurice & The Obsessless App   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords • OCD intrusive thoughts • ERP therapy for OCD • OCD recovery story • Obsessless app • overcoming harm OCD • mindfulness for OCD • Kristina Orlova OCD Whisperer   © OCD Whisperer

Have you ever felt ashamed of a habit you couldn’t control?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with Aneela Idnani, co-founder of HabitAware and mental health advocate. Aneela opens up about living with trichotillomania (hair pulling disorder), how shame kept her silent for decades, and how awareness and acceptance transformed her recovery journey.   Aneela shares: • Her early experiences with hair pulling and intrusive thoughts • The hidden shame and secrecy that fueled her struggle for 20+ years • How pregnancy and stress intensified her compulsions • The turning point—finally opening up to her husband and seeking help • How HabitAware’s Keen Smart Bracelet helps build awareness and break the cycle   This conversation also dives into: • Why awareness is the first step to any lasting change • The role of self-care, mindfulness, and acceptance in recovery • How shifting perspective can turn struggle into strength • The importance of removing shame and embracing your full self   Whether you’re navigating OCD, BFRBs (Body-Focused Repetitive Behaviors), or supporting someone who is, this episode offers hope, tools, and strategies for healing.   📲About Aneela Idnani (guest): Co-founder of HabitAware Long-time lived experience: pulled hair since adolescence; integrated intrusive thoughts and self-soothing behaviors into her journey HabitAware: habitaware.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aneelaidnani   ✂️ TIMESTAMPS: [00:30] Aneela’s Untold Story [01:39] When Hair Pulling First Began—and Why No One Saw It [03:46] Living in Silence: The Hidden Shame No One Talks About [06:11] The Moment Everything Changed—Her Husband Finds Out [07:33] From Struggle to Solution: How HabitAware Was Born [11:01] The Game-Changer: Turning Awareness Into Freedom [14:18] ADHD, Intrusive Thoughts & The Spiral of Self-Criticism [15:55] Shutting Down the Inner Bully: Mindfulness That Works [20:47] From Self-Hate to Self-Grace: Reframing the Struggle [24:43] Losing It All, Finding Meaning: Processing Grief Differently [26:47] Want to Heal? Here’s How to Reach Aneela & HabitAware   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords • trichotillomania recovery • hair pulling disorder help • body-focused repetitive behaviors (BFRBs) • OCD and shame • awareness in OCD recovery • HabitAware Keen Smart Bracelet • living with OCD and BFRBs   © OCD Whisperer

What is Response Prevention and why is it the most important part of ERP?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with therapist Natalia Aiza. Together, they explore Response Prevention (the RP in ERP therapy)—why it’s the most crucial step in breaking free from OCD cycles, and how to actually apply it in daily life.   Natalia opens up about: • Why exposures without response prevention don’t work • The difference between physical vs. mental compulsions • Tools for handling rumination, avoidance, and reassurance-seeking • How “good enough” ERP (not perfection) helps real people recover   This conversation also dives into: • How to identify sneaky mental rituals disguised as “thinking” • Why delaying compulsions builds brain flexibility • The power of uncertainty, creativity, and new discoveries in recovery   Whether you’re struggling with OCD yourself or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers insight, clarity, and hope to guide your recovery journey.   📲 Natalia Aiza (guest): LPC, Founder of Kairos, specializes in OCD, anxiety, ADHD, and parent coaching for all ages. OCD Colorado: https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/letstalk.ocd   ✂️TIMESTAMPS: [00:00] – Welcome back + today’s focus on Response Prevention [01:07] – What is response prevention in ERP? [01:45] – Mental vs. physical compulsions [03:19] – Building a response prevention “ladder” [04:17] – Identifying mental rituals as compulsions [05:50] – Why belief in compulsions makes ERP harder [07:01] – Rumination-focused ERP & breaking mental loops [08:57] – Mental distortions + using CBT to challenge analysis [10:47] – Sitting with not knowing vs. “maybe, maybe not” [13:10] – Distress tolerance + uncertainty in recovery [15:52] – Opposite action vs. “good enough” ERP [17:37] – When OCD flares up again: going back to basics [19:21] – Why response prevention matters long-term [21:29] – Designing RP: adaptive vs. compulsive behaviors [22:29] – Reality anchoring: using trusted people as baselines [23:50] – Creative RP examples & individualizing ERP   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords • response prevention OCD • ERP therapy explained • mental compulsions OCD • breaking OCD cycles • rumination and OCD • uncertainty in OCD recovery     © OCD Whisperer

What if the story that makes you feel most ashamed… is the exact story you need to face?   This episode includes some words that platform may flag as problematic. We have muted them to prevent issues with the platform. These edits are purely for compliance and do not change the meaning or therapeutic purpose of the script.   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova continues her conversation with clinical director Natalia Aiza in part three of the ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention) series. Together, they explore live exposures — the practice of confronting OCD fears in real time instead of avoiding them.   Natalia shares her journey of: • Facing intrusive fears head-on with live ERP • Learning to trust herself again after doubting her safety around loved ones • Why “breaking OCD’s rules” is key to recovery • What it really feels like to sit in the discomfort and not perform compulsions   This episode also dives into: • Why ERP feels counterintuitive — but works • How OCD uses secrecy and avoidance to stay powerful • The role of courage and compassion in confronting fears • Why recovery means learning to live with uncertainty   Whether you’re struggling with OCD yourself or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers insight, clarity, and hope to guide your recovery journey.   📲 Natalia Aiza (guest): LPC, Founder of Kairos, specializes in OCD, anxiety, ADHD, and parent coaching for all ages. OCD Colorado: https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/letstalk.ocd   ✂️TIMESTAMPS: [00:00] – Welcome & Introduction [01:30] – Why ERP gets “fun & creative” outside the therapy room [02:35] – Pe*ophilia OCD & Harm OCD: You’re NOT who OCD says you are [03:05] – Babysitting kids as exposure?! Saying yes instead of no [04:00] – Why “belief” matters before facing taboo fears [05:30] – Parents avoiding their own children: breaking the cycle fast [06:15] – Intentional vs. organic exposures: what’s the difference? [07:00] – Life throws exposures at you daily — here’s how to use them [07:30] – Breaking OCD rules & sitting in raw discomfort [08:30] – Her scariest thought: “What if I throw my kids out the window?” [09:30] – Why your body reacts & what habituation really means [10:45] – Urge surfing: riding the wave without compulsions [12:30] – Facing identity & sexual orientation OCD with exposures [14:20] – Justice-based ERP: tailoring therapy without harm [16:30] – Faith & ERP: therapy that respects your religion [19:00] – The #1 job of ERP: teach the brain what’s truly safe [19:50] – Where to find Natalia & episode wrap-up   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords • OCD live exposures • ERP therapy for OCD • intrusive thoughts recovery • OCD treatment strategies • facing fears in OCD • Kristina Orlova OCD Whisperer     © OCD Whisperer

What if the scariest story your mind tells… could actually set you free?   *This episode includes a live imaginal script. Some words that algorithm may flag as problematic have been muted to prevent issues with the platform. These edits are purely for compliance and do not change the meaning or therapeutic purpose of the script.*   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova sits down with Natalia for part two of a four-part series on ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention). Together, they dive into the misunderstood practice of imaginal exposures — a therapeutic tool that helps people face OCD’s darkest fears on paper, reclaim power from intrusive thoughts, and build true resilience.   Natalia opens up about: • Writing an imaginal script around her most feared intrusive thoughts • How OCD convinced her she could be a danger to her own children • Why telling the “fear story” in detail reduced its power • What it feels like to desensitize through repetition   This conversation also dives into: • Why OCD thrives on avoidance and secrecy • How imaginal exposures flip the power dynamic over intrusive thoughts • The role of compassion and creativity in ERP therapy   Whether you are navigating OCD yourself or supporting someone, this episode offers clarity, tools, and hope to help you understand ERP and take the first step toward recovery.   📲 Natalia Aiza (guest): LPC, Founbder of Kairos, specializes in OCD, anxiety, ADHD, and parent coaching for all ages. OCD Colorado: https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/letstalk.ocd   ✂️TIMESTAMPS: [00:30] – Introduction to ERP Series & Guest Natalia [01:05] – What is ERP? Understanding the basics [02:35] – Why would anyone face their fears? [05:40] – Misconceptions: Is ERP “torture”? [07:57] – How ERP is structured step by step [09:23] – Willingness vs distress levels: where to begin [11:30] – Helping clients move past fear and resistance [14:08] – Different approaches & therapist styles in ERP [17:08] – Starting with the least threatening exposures [18:21] – Distress tolerance vs compulsions: key nuance [20:09] – Examples of distress tolerance exercises [21:32] – Flexibility in ERP: adapting to clients’ needs [23:45] – Getting into the right mindset for ERP [25:04] – How long does ERP take to start showing relief? [28:20] – Closing reflections & key ERP takeaways   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords OCD imaginal exposures ERP therapy for OCD intrusive thoughts recovery OCD treatment strategies facing taboo fears in OCD Kristina Orlova OCD Whisperer     © OCD Whisperer    

Can ERP really help you face your biggest fears? In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova speaks with Natalia, a therapist specializing in OCD treatment. Together, they explore the foundations of Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) therapy and why it is considered first line treatment for OCD.   Natalia opens up about: The basics of ERP and how it actually works in practice Why people fear ERP and worry it will feel “torturous” How therapists can guide clients step by step without overwhelming them Strategies for building confidence and willingness in the recovery journey   This conversation also dives into: Common misconceptions about ERP and OCD treatment The importance of flexibility, creativity, and pacing in therapy How ERP is not about “beating you down” but about empowering lasting change Whether you are navigating OCD yourself or supporting someone, this episode offers clarity, tools, and hope to help you understand ERP and take the first step toward recovery.   📲 Natalia Aiza (guest): LPC, Founbder of Kairos, specializes in OCD, anxiety, ADHD, and parent coaching for all ages. OCD Colorado: https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/letstalk.ocd   ✂️TIMESTAMPS: [00:30] – Introduction to ERP Series & Guest Natalia [01:05] – What is ERP? Understanding the basics [02:35] – Why would anyone face their fears? [05:40] – Misconceptions: Is ERP “torture”? [07:57] – How ERP is structured step by step [09:23] – Willingness vs distress levels: where to begin [11:30] – Helping clients move past fear and resistance [14:08] – Different approaches & therapist styles in ERP [17:08] – Starting with the least threatening exposures [18:21] – Distress tolerance vs compulsions: key nuance [20:09] – Examples of distress tolerance exercises [21:32] – Flexibility in ERP: adapting to clients’ needs [23:45] – Getting into the right mindset for ERP [25:04] – How long does ERP take to start showing relief? [28:20] – Closing reflections & key ERP takeaways   ✅ Free Resources & Links 🎁 Free OCD Survival Kit & Classes → www.shorturl.at/KcTxM 📖 OCD CBT Journal → www.shorturl.at/7pUxB 🌐 Website → www.korresults.com/ ✍️ OCD Academy→ www.ocdacademy.thinkific.com/   📲 Stay Connected Facebook: www.facebook.com/korresults Instagram: www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ocdwhisperer Twitter (X): www.x.com/korresults Website: www.korresults.com/   📩 Business Inquiries: info@korresults.com   ✅ About OCD Whisperer Welcome to OCD Whisperer! My channel covers OCD recovery, intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT, anxiety management, and mindfulness tools. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.   ⚠️ Disclaimer: Please note while the host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   🔑 SEO Keywords ERP therapy for OCD OCD recovery tools OCD treatment explained exposure and response prevention managing intrusive thoughts facing OCD fears OCD therapist tips     © OCD Whisperer    

What does it mean to succeed while living with OCD? In this episode, Kristina Orlova sits down with Scott Stirret, founder and CEO of Venture for Canada and author of The Uncertainty Advantage, to explore how OCD and uncertainty intersect with ambition, business, and personal growth. Scott opens up about his diagnosis during the pandemic, how OCD shaped his thoughts and rituals long before he had a name for it, and why getting evidence-based treatment through ERP was life-changing. He also shares candidly about setbacks, recovery, and what it means to manage OCD as a lifelong condition. Together, Kristina and Scott unpack the sneaky ways OCD shows up, the power of mindfulness and self-compassion, and how embracing uncertainty can actually become a strength rather than a fear. Whether you’re navigating OCD yourself or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers hope, practical strategies, and a powerful reminder that success and OCD are not mutually exclusive.   The 3 things you’ll learn in  today’s episode: Why healing from OCD is a gradual process and not about “making thoughts go away.” How mindfulness and self-compassion can help untangle mental compulsions. Practical tools Scott uses like exercise, rest, and relationships—to manage OCD while leading a successful career.   In This Episode [00:01] Kristina’s welcome and introduction [00:36] Meet today’s guest, Scott [01:32] Scott’s OCD diagnosis and journey [04:08] Learning that OCD management is long-term [06:39] Writing The Uncertainty Advantage and the fear of uncertainty [08:26] Navigating OCD while building a business [09:58] How OCD manifests for Scott [11:21] Untangling mental rituals and compulsive thinking [13:22] Labeling compulsions with gentleness [14:20] Daily practices for ongoing management [16:01] Finding meaning in OCD and writing the book [18:47] Sitting with difficult feelings instead of running from them [20:44] Developing empathy through lived experience [21:13] Where to find Scott and his new book Our Guest Scott Stirret is the founder and CEO of Venture for Canada, a national charity that helps young people build entrepreneurial skills and careers. Over the past decade, the organization has raised over $80M and supported more than 10,000 youth across Canada. Scott is also the author of The Uncertainty Advantage, a book that guides early career professionals to build resilience by embracing uncertainty. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram YouTube OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner Website   Scott Stirrett LinkedIn The Uncertainty Advantage on Amazon Substack Personal Website – with his Uncertainty Quiz   Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!