

Queer Theology
Queer Theology / Brian G. Murphy & Shannon T.L. Kearns
The longest running podcast for and by LGBTQ Christians and other queer people of faith and spiritual seeker. Hosted by Fr. Shannon TL Kearns, a transgender Christian priest and Brian G. Murphy, a bisexual polyamorous Jew. and now in its 10th year, the Queer Theology Podcast shares deep insights and practical tools for building a thriving spiritual life on your own terms. Explore the archives for a queer perspective on hundreds of Bible passages as well as dozens of interviews with respected LGBTQ leaders (and a few cis, straight folks too). Join tens of thousands of listeners from around the world for the Bible, every week, queered.
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Jun 18, 2023 • 1h 2min
I Followed Jesus Out with Tamice Spencer-Helms
Tamice Spencer-Helms is a force and we are excited to share this interview with you as part of our Guest Series.
Tamice is a published author, speaker, and theologian based in Richmond, Virginia. After 16 years of full-time ministry, she founded Sub: Culture Incorporated, a nonprofit that provides holistic support and crisis relief for Black College Students. Over the years, Tamice has been a change-maker and pioneer for young people in her community. We talk with her about her book, “Faith Unleavened: The Wilderness Between Trayvon Martin & George Floyd”, and its important message for people of faith.
In this interview, we really dig into the ways in which white supremacy has infected Chrisitanity. Tamice offers some practical insight into how to unpack that from our own theologies. She also talks about the dichotomy of her queerness and faith, how reclaiming common sense has been a powerful way for her to follow Jesus while enriching her faith, and recognizing real freedom and love.
Resources:
Faith Unleavened: The Wilderness Between Trayvon Martin & George Floyd by Tamice Spencer-Helms
Sub: Culture Incorporated if you want to make donations to Tamice’s non-profit
Social: IG @tamicenamaespeaks, Twitter @TamiceNamae, TikTok tamice_namae_speaks
Subscribe to Substack: https://tamicenamaespeaks.substack.com/
Join the online community Sanctuary Collective.
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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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Jun 11, 2023 • 34min
Joy In The Silence with Hannah Bos & Paul Thureen
It was such an honor and privilege for Shay to sit down with the creators of “Somebody Somewhere”, Hannah Bos and Paul Thureen, to talk about this groundbreaking show. Not gonna lie, Shay is a HUGE fan and was so excited to get the chance to watch the new season before anyone else PLUS get the inside scoop from two fantastic writers!
Hannah and Paul are best friends, writers, actors, and both grew up in the midwest. Paul talks about growing up in rural Minnesota and Hannah about the suburbs of Chicago. They explain how art and theater are something that gave them a sense of self during their teen years and the beauty of chosen family.
The show is unique in that it is unabashedly queer, but also takes seriously rural life, family, and religion and much of this comes from the intention of Hannah and Paul to showcase the joy in the silence. If you want to check out the trailer for the second season of “Somebody Somewhere”, you can visit queertheology.com/trailer. Or watch the show if you haven’t already.. Both seasons.. You won’t regret it.. (note: this interview was recorded before the 2023 Writers Strike)
Somebody Somewhere https://www.hbo.com/somebody-somewhere
The Debate Society http://www.thedebatesociety.org/
Hannah Bos https://www.hannahbos.com/
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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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Jun 4, 2023 • 46min
Cultivating Healthy Communities with Rev. Solomon Missouri
Rev. Solomon Missouri’s bio is succinct: Twitter pastor, play cousin, problem, and preeminent marriage counselor to wayward athletes. His ministry focuses on sexuality and spirituality outside and beyond church walls, which is where we have been following him on Twitter for some time now. His humor and commitment to inclusion is evident in the work he does and the message he brings. This interview has moments of gravity and moments of hilarity (you gotta hear what is bringing him joy lately ) Shay talks with Rev. Solomon about the importance of centering marginalized voices, building constructive and healthy communities, and the importance of using humor in this second episode of our Summer Guest Series.
Resources:
Rev. Solomon Missouri Website
Senior Pastor @ Invitation AME Zio
Social: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube
Support Rev. Solomon Missouri on Patreon
Dr. John Sprung
Unprotected Texts by Jennifer Wright Knust
Dr. Rita Weems
Sex Nerd Sandra
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May 28, 2023 • 58min
Living Bravely with Rabbi Eger and Rev. Neil
We kick off this guest series with a returning guest, Rabbi Denise Eger, who is also joined by Rev. Neil Thomas. Rabbi Eger is the founding Rabbi at Congregation Kol-Ami (Brian’s synagogue!) and Rev. Neil Thomas is the Senior Pastor at Cathedral of Hope in Dallas. They have co-authored a book, 7 Principles for Living Bravely, that brings together universal truths of faith and wisdom, giving readers a comforting framework to make sense of it all with smart tips for getting through difficult periods of life. They give us some insight into what went into writing a book from two different religious traditions, ones that are often at odds with each other or pitted against each other in our society, and how their mutual friendship and respect has underscored the values of the book. Both Rabbi Eger and Rev. Thomas were on the front lines in their ministry work during the AIDS crisis of the 80s and recognized the need to write this book during the COVID pandemic. They talk about the resilience of the queer community, the beauty of working together in respect of each others’ religion, and the absolute importance of rest in a non-stop world.
Resources:
7 Principles for Living Bravely by Rabbi Denise Eger and Rev. Neil Thomas
Cathedral of Hope – Dallas
Rabbi Denise Eger at her website
Congregation Kol Ami
Ani Zonneveld Muslims for Progressive Values
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Episode Transcript
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May 21, 2023 • 35min
A Community of Mutual Responsibility: Galatians Chapter 6
We close our series on Galatians with chapter 6 and it seems to be a bit of an abrupt ending- especially when taken out of context! We really see how Paul’s words can be taken and used in a different way than he intended and we discuss how conservatives and evangelicals often use these verses to condemn marginalized folks. They create a list of what NOT to do, but Paul is much more on the side of progressive Christians than it seems! It’s important to not seed Paul to conservatives and purity culture, but also important to learn to read the Bible well so we can wrestle with these questions in a constructive way. What does it mean for us today to have a community of mutual responsibility? Instead of waiting for people to show up for you, are we also asking how we’re showing up for others? Paul’s instruction to the Galatians is to be led by faith, not by rules, and we want to embrace that while being mindful of the nuance and complexity of the world we live in today.
Resources:
Digging the Details on-demand workshop
Journey Into the Bible on demand course
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Episode Transcript
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May 14, 2023 • 33min
What Leads To Justice? Galatians Chapter 5
We enter chapter 5 in the middle of a thought from Paul because (reminder!) this is a continuous letter being interrupted by chapter breaks that was meant to be read as a whole. This chapter is heavy. It’s where we get many of those lists of dos and don’ts. And this dualistic language, fruits of the flesh vs. fruits of the spirit, can be really harmful when read and interpreted out of context. We gotta look at this from the perspective of Paul framing an argument, using examples, imploring new Christians to live into this community, and wrestling with the trauma that came from the religion that he left. We talk about Paul’s continuous dialogue about circumcision and why he’s really the worst kind of convert… But how we can’t get rid of him completely because he does have an important message in there!
Resources:
A Professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies Teaches Us About The New Testament, Dr. Amy Jill Levine Podcast Episode
Digging the Details, on demand workshop
Journey Into the Bible, on demand course
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Episode transcript
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May 7, 2023 • 37min
Holy Discomfort and Scriptural Allegory: Galatians, Chapter 4
Chapter 4 of Paul’s letter to the Galatians is full of dense passages and obscure references. It’s especially important in this chapter to pay attention to who his audience is- Non-Jewish, new Christians. We talk about how Paul makes the point that scripture is allegory (he literally says don’t take it literally!) and how Jesus is separate from God (the gospels and Paul’s letters were written before the Nicene Creed determined the Trinity!). So what does this mean for us today? We discuss how we can make sure our spiritual practices are not a distraction from moving us towards justice and also the importance of sacred storytelling in creating some productive discomfort.
Resources:
Join the online community Sanctuary Collective.
Rob Bell’s video Everything is Spiritual
Rituals for Resistance & Resilience Workshop
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Episode Transcript
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Apr 30, 2023 • 39min
Scripture Arguing With Itself: Galatians Ch. 3
We are on chapter 3 of Galatians and here is where we get Paul talking about the Law and equality. But can (and does!) he live up to the things he says he believes in? Paul is making an intricate and intense argument in this letter and this is where he starts to diverge from Judaism, the religion that he has inherited. This brings up some questions about how we understand the Law versus Faith dichotomy, the importance of faith versus works, and who is included, but then later excluded, as equal members in the community. What is interesting for us, is that reading these texts and looking at context gives us a much different perspective on Paul’s message than what we were taught growing up. We’re essentially getting a peek into a new religion and new theology being formed in real time and as with all things human relating to spiritual, they can get messy!
Resources:
Join the online community Sanctuary Collective
Podcast Interview with Dr. Amy-Jill Levine
Digging the Details Workshop
Why Did Jesus Die?
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Episode Transcript
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Apr 23, 2023 • 37min
Disagreement and Belonging: Galatians Chapter 2
We are on Chapter 2 of Galatians- but really we are just picking up on an interrupted thought in a letter Paul meant to be read as a whole. (Reminder: this was a letter meant to be read in full with the nuance of the time, reference to stories that would be well known, and to a specific group of people!) In this text, we get a glimpse into the messiness of the early Christian church… The messiness that continues today mostly because it IS complicated and people ARE going to have a human response when trying to make sense of their experiences. We look at what this argument means in regard to a “common table”. How can we keep our distinctive identities but create a space of welcome? It’s a 2000 year old question and we’ve got to find that common rallying point!
Resources mentioned in the episode:
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Apr 17, 2023 • 41min
What’s the Deal With Paul? Galatians Ch. 1
We’re kicking off another series, this time on Galatians! It’s been a looooong time since both of us have read these texts. And part of that has to do with Paul.. We’ll talk about what’s going on with him.. But it’s important to note that although we are approaching this by a chapter per week, this was originally written as a letter and would have been read in its entirety. There’s interesting tidbits of history in this letter, some interesting claims by Paul that when examined in context of his time are a little out of the ordinary, and a lot of crabbiness on Paul’s part as he addresses this group of his converts that seem to have been easily swayed to other beliefs in his absence.
We’ll have a worksheet that goes along with this series like we did with the Matthew series as well! I’ll post it in the comments, feel free to respond here if you want to share what these prompts bring up for you!
Episode Transcript
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