
The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show
Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
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Latest episodes

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Mar 1, 2024 • 54min
245. Leaping Through Data – Macy’s, Malls, Delinquency Report, & Discounted Payoffs
This podcast covers topics like Macy's store closures impacting CMBS loans, REIT earnings, office valuation reductions, discounted payoffs, industrial property purchases, and vintage muscle car restoration enthusiasm.

Feb 22, 2024 • 38min
244. Office Valuations, Malls Not out of the Woods?, AI Question Marks for CRE
This podcast covers office valuations, the ongoing struggles of malls, multifamily transactions, news for the retail, lodging, and industrial sectors. Topics include new office transactions in Seattle, office value decline in Chicago, whether malls are out of the woods, recent retail property sales, lodging updates, and an industrial property sale.

Feb 16, 2024 • 52min
243. Extend &… Pretend, Profit or Peril? Office Environment; Lodging Maturities; Property News
Explore 'extend and pretend' strategy, lodging distress signs, office environment analysis. Dive into hotel sale, multifamily stories, retail news, industrial sale. Learn about office restructure, loan modification. Full of commercial property insights

Feb 9, 2024 • 49min
242. CRE & Bank Turmoil Strikes Mainstream Media Chord; Surveys, Sales, & Shout outs
This week, anyone outside of CRE may have thought markets were improving. But one quick search reveals that mainstream media is now all over what we’ve been talking about for many months. In this episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down the headlines, while also sharing industrial transaction stories and news for office, retail, multifamily and hotel properties. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
- Economic update (0:23)
- CMBS loan losses (7:01)
- Industrial sales (10:41)
- Office (16:46)
- Retail news (28:33)
- Multifamily stories (33:07)
- Shoutouts (41:36)
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Feb 2, 2024 • 50min
241. Commercial REality Check: What Fed Pivot? & More with Danielle DiMartino Booth and Dan McNamara
Two market experts, Danielle DiMartino Booth and Dan McNamara, join the podcast to discuss recent events in the market. Topics covered include layoffs and job numbers, CMBS issuance, increasing recession fears, maturity walls, faltering CRE fundamentals, and where to put capital to work. They also dive into the high vacancy rates in the Texas office sector and opportunities in the debt side of commercial real estate. Tune in for valuable insights.

Jan 26, 2024 • 54min
240. Immaculate Disinflation?; Retail & Hotel Sales; Office Operating Expenses
In this episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we review the latest economic data points and whether what we're seeing is contributing to the "immaculate disinflation" narrative. In CRE, we break down multifamily stories, transactions across the country for retail and hotel properties, and share office stories that touch CMBS. We also dig in to our office operating expense report. Tune in.
Episode Notes:
- Economic update (0:23)
- Retail sales (8:51)
- Multifamily stories (15:24)
- Office property expenses (24:00)
- Office headlines (27:55)
- Lodging transactions (41:48)
- Shoutouts (47:06)
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Jan 18, 2024 • 47min
239. Mixed-Bag Update: Strong Retail Sales, Turbulent Bank Earnings, Loans in Special Servicing
This week, we saw positive retail sales numbers and jobless claims at the lowest level in over a year, but we also saw bank earnings decline. In this episode, we dive into the mixed-bag of macroeconomic news and data, and what it means for CRE. We share multifamily transactions across the country, news about office loans heading to special servicing, and a few updates on retail. Tune in.
Episode Notes:
- Economic update (0:23)
- Bank earnings (11:58)
- Multifamily transactions (15:12)
- Office valuations, moves to special servicing (21:34)
- Retail news (37:16)
- Shoutouts (40:04)
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Jan 12, 2024 • 43min
238. CRE Temperature Check at CREFC Miami: Resilience in a Wary Market
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we reflect on the CREFC Miami 2024 conference, and the parallels in terms of bullishness on the dovish Fed pivot. While there is a generally positive overtone as we head into 2024, there are underlying concerns that have yet to be addressed. We also dive into multifamily sales, office news, and a few stories for the retail and lodging segments. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
- Economic update (0:23)
- CREFC conference sentiment (2:48)
- Multifamily sales and news (10:26)
- Office stories (21:35)
- Hotel discount sale (31:27)
- Retail headlines (35:32)
- Shoutouts (38:15)
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Jan 10, 2024 • 33min
237. Structural Changes in CRE Debt Markets, Ares' Bryan Donohoe Helps Us Sort it Out
In a special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by Bryan Donohoe, Partner and Co-head of Ares US Real Estate. Bryan breaks down the world of debt markets, lending, and originations. We break down past market disruptions, CRE fundamentals, and the structural changes in the CRE debt markets.
*This episode was recorded prior to the December 2023 Fed meeting.
Episode Notes:
- Background (1:00)
- Where are the debt markets today? (6:32)
- Is there optimism for CRE? (10:36)
- Geographies and property types positioned for success (12:01)
- Appetite for office? (16:06)
- Market outlook (20:15)
- What does Ares do best? (30:49)
- The onset of a new credit cycle (31:30)
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Jan 5, 2024 • 42min
236. New Year Normalization: December Delinquencies, Multifamily 101, Retail Resilience
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we discuss whether the decline in stocks and increase in bond yields was a sign of negativity or just a normalization in the market. We have a special multifamily 101 segment where we break down going in cap rates, not all income is "good income" and more. We also discuss our latest CMBS delinquency data and some headlines for retail, office, multifamily and hotels. Tune in now.
This episode is sponsored by Spinoso Real Estate Group: https://spinosoreg.com/mall-investment-opportunity-and-operating-platform/?utm_source=TreppWire&utm_medium=TreppWire+Digital+Content&utm_campaign=TreppWire+Dec+Jan+2023+2024+Sponsorship
Episode Notes:
- Economic update (0:23)
- Upcoming jobs report: goldilocks? (6:45)
- Apartment rent relief (9:40)
- CMBS delinquency rates (12:11)
- Multifamily 101 (15:02)
- Multifamily news (25:24)
- Office trading alerts (28:31)
- Hotel headline (32:30)
- Retail news (33:41)
-Shoutouts (35:52)
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