
Scrolling 2 Death
Scrolling 2 Death is a podcast for parents who are worried about social media. Through interviews with parents and experts, we explore smartphone use, screen time, school-issued devices, social media use and so much more.
Latest episodes

Jan 23, 2025 • 32min
Protecting Teens Online (with Utah State Senator Mike McKell)
In this episode, Utah State Senator Mike McKell joins Nicki Reisberg to tackle the pressing issue of online safety for teens. Together, they delve into the mental health crisis fueled by social media and the urgent need for legislative action to protect children from harmful content. Senator McKell shares insights into Utah’s groundbreaking efforts to implement age verification for online platforms and overcome fierce opposition from Big Tech lobbyists.
The conversation highlights the pivotal role parents play in driving change, from advocating for stronger laws to fostering open dialogue with their children about digital habits. They discuss practical tools for parents to understand the data behind the crisis and actionable steps to engage with their representatives. This episode is a call to action for bold solutions and collective effort in safeguarding the next generation in the digital age.
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Jan 20, 2025 • 43min
Always "on" but never present. Is there another way? (with Clare Morell)
Do you always need to be productive, even when you’re not at work? As our families and careers grow, responsibilities pile on while time slips away. It’s no wonder that we try to maximize efficiency throughout the day. The smartphone seemed like a great solution, offering convenient ways to tackle our mental to-do lists. Amazon order? Done. Email reply? Sent. We’ve taken multi-tasking to a new level—but at what cost?
Your claimed efficiency is diminishing your presence – especially with the people who matter most.
Smartphone devices have trained our brains to always be “on.” A constant barrage of notifications, emails, and texts, along with the urge to check off tasks during our “downtime,” have replaced moments of rest, creativity, and reflection. But how do you define “downtime” now? While your kids are playing on the playground? Shouldn’t we prioritize our presence with them—watching our kids play or even joining them—rather than trying to be productive every minute of the day?
Listen to a compelling conversation about the pros & cons of ditching the smartphone for a “healthier phone” to create a better balance in life. Clare Morell joins Nicki from Scrolling 2 Death to share her experience trying two popular, alternative phone brands.
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Jan 17, 2025 • 18min
What's happening with TikTok? (with Rick Lane)
Today, January 17, 2025, marks a monumental day as the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously upheld the controversial "TikTok divest-or-ban" law. This decision is being hailed as a major victory by advocates for online safety and national security, but it also leaves families, policymakers, and Big Tech wondering—what happens next?
In this episode, we dive deep into the implications of this historic ruling. Will President Trump follow through with enforcing the law? What could this mean for your family, your kids, and the broader social media landscape? Plus, we explore why TikTok’s user base is migrating en masse to another Chinese-owned app, RedNote, and whether it poses similar concerns.
To help us untangle the legal, political, and social ramifications, I’m joined by legislative expert Rick Lane, who has spent years on the frontlines of tech policy. Together, we tackle your burning questions, examine the potential ripple effects for Big Tech, and discuss how families can navigate this rapidly changing digital world.
If you’re a parent, policymaker, or simply concerned about the future of social media, you won’t want to miss this episode.
Rick Lane is a tech policy expert, child safety advocate, and the founder and CEO of IGGY Ventures LLC. IGGY advises and invests in companies, projects, and public policy initiatives that can positively impact society. Connect with Rick on LinkedIn
[RESEARCH] The CCP's Digital Charm Offensive: How TikTok's Search Algorithm and Pro-China Influence Networks Indoctrinate GenZ Users in the United States
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Jan 16, 2025 • 34min
Drugs Gone Viral: How social media normalizes the use of deadly opioids (with Detective Patrick Craven)
In this conversation, Detective Patrick Craven discusses the alarming rise of fentanyl-related deaths among youth. We highlight the role of social media in facilitating drug transactions, the risks associated with experimentation, and the deceptive nature of counterfeit pills.
Patrick emphasizes the importance of parental awareness and education regarding the dangers of drug use in today's digital age. We provide essential guidance for parents on how to communicate the dangers of these substances to their children, the importance of being informed and proactive, and the life-saving potential of Naloxone.
About Detective Patrick Craven
Detective Patrick Craven is employed by the Placer County Sheriff's Office. Currently, he serves as the lead detective for the Placer Opioid Response Team (PORT), a specialized unit dedicated to addressing opioid-related issues. Before his role in PORT, Detective Craven spent four years as an undercover narcotics officer for the Placer County Special Investigation Unit (PSIU). In 2020, he began investigating fentanyl poisonings and has since been the lead detective on twenty-five cases involving fentanyl deaths. Detective Craven was the lead detective on California's first fentanyl poisoning homicide conviction as well as the state’s second fentanyl poisoning homicide conviction by trial. In total, Detective Craven has successfully obtained three fentanyl poisoning homicide convictions and one manslaughter conviction. Detective Craven possesses unparalleled expertise in investigating fentanyl poisoning homicides and is leading the way in this specialized field.
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Jan 13, 2025 • 46min
Schools unite against social media (with attorney Joel Wright)
We once rejoiced at the technology advancements for our children—cell phones offered a sense of security (mostly for us), tablets provided endless learning resources, and social media promised enhanced connections with peers, all at little or no cost.
But the actual cost has been steep: a surge in harmful content, bad actors, and a growing mental health crisis. Behind it all, tech giants built addictive, amoral algorithms to trap kids in a cycle of engagement - all in the name of data collection (aka profit).
Now, schools are paying the price. Social media-related disruptions are driving up costs and straining resources. In this episode, attorney Joel Wright and Nicki from Scrolling 2 Death discuss how Wright is helping over 250 school districts hold social media companies accountable for the damage they've caused in our children's classrooms.
Do you want to see your district represented in this case? Contact Joel Wright to learn more: joel@wrightlawgroupllc.com

Jan 10, 2025 • 9min
Big Tech Gut Check (week of January 6, 2025)
The Big Tech Gut Check is a super quick, weekly update on all things social media and Big Tech.
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Social Media & Big Tech highlights for this week:
TikTok Harms Children at an Industrial Scale
Supreme Court Will Hear TikTok Ban: What to Expect
Peer-Reviewed Study: TikTok Brainwashes American Youth
Meta's Update on "Fact Checking"
AP News; Meta Eliminates Fact-Checking in Latest Bow to Trump
Check back on Fridays for everything that parents need to know about the platforms our children are spending hours on every day.
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Jan 9, 2025 • 28min
2025 Tech Resolutions (with Titania Jordan)
I brought in Titania Jordan to compare our 2025 Tech Resolutions. This time, we took the focus off of the kids and talked about our own relationships with technology. How can we improve tech-life balance and set a positive example for our kids?
Resources mentioned in the episode:
Apple Fails to Protect Children (with Sarah Gardner)
Apple's App Store Age-Ratings are "Fake" (not to be trusted)
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Jan 6, 2025 • 39min
Are parents using tech too much? (with Harrison Haynes)
In this conversation, 21-year-old Harrison Haynes opens our eyes to a new way of living with tech; something he coins "digital essentialism."
Parents worry so much about keeping our kids safe online...is it time we take a look at our own relationships with technology?
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Resources mentioned in the episode:
"I survived grooming." (with Harrison Haynes)
Dear Parents, From Gen Z (with Ava Smithing)
Tracking vs. Trust: Striking a Balance (with Ava Smithing)
Grooming Explained (with Anna Sonoda)
What happened to our attention spans? (with Dr. Gloria Mark)
Harrison Haynes, a student at James Madison University, is currently finishing his bachelor degree in Social Work with a concentration on Mental Health Counseling and a minor in global religion and cultures.
Harrison is aiming to continue his education, completing a Master's Program, and pursuing his ambition to become a Therapist through Clinical Social Work.
Beyond academics, Harrison is actively involved in the Wired Human Youth Coalition, a nonprofit organization dedicated to promoting discussions on online harms and mental health with a focus on empowering young voices to lead the conversation in political advocacy.
Harrison also serves as a Survivor Consultant for the End-OSEAC Survivors Council, where he helps develop trauma-informed and survivor-led legislation to combat online exploitation and digital harms.
His work and lived experiences have created an appreciation for formative practices, especially what he calls “digital intentionalism.” After a year and a half of navigating life with a "dumb phone," he developed this concept for everyday people to help create space for what truly matters in a book he is authoring called: “The Moments Between Moments”.
In his free time, Harrison leads a vibrant and diverse “life group” dedicated to helping students and friends find peace in an intentional, spiritual life.
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Jan 3, 2025 • 11min
Big Tech Gut Check (week of December 30, 2024)
The Big Tech Gut Check is a super quick, weekly update on all things social media and Big Tech.
Social Media & Big Tech highlights for this week:
U.S. Judge Upholds California Ban on Addictive Feeds for Minors
Florida Social Media Ban on Hold Due To Lawsuit
TikTok Internal Reports Show Massive Amount of Harm
TikTok 'Divest or Ban' case to be decided
Morton woman faces charges after CSAM linked to her Snapchat account
Snapchat Predator Facing Charges Involving 15-year-old Girl
Meta Adds Thousands of AI Users to Facebook and Instagram
Recommended Interviews:
Australia's Under-16 Social Media Ban (with Dany Elachi)
"An A.I. chatbot killed my son." (with Megan Garcia)
"Chatbots told my son to kill me."
Are A.I. chatbots out of control (with Tim Estes)
A.I.'s Impact on Children (with Dr. Mathilde Cerioli)
This episode is sponsored by Bark Technologies.
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Jan 2, 2025 • 51min
A look back at 2024 (with Dr. Alison Yeung)
I brought in Dr. Alison Yeung to recap 2024 and set intentions for 2025 around kid's online safety.