
Scrolling 2 Death
Scrolling 2 Death is a podcast for parents who are worried about social media. Through interviews with parents and experts, we explore smartphone use, screen time, school-issued devices, social media use and so much more.
Latest episodes

Oct 27, 2024 • 26min
"An AI chatbot killed my son." (with Megan Garcia)
Trigger warning: The following content contains sensitive subject matter, including depictions of suicide and self-harm. Please view or listen with caution.
This is a story that every parent must hear. The future is here, and that includes AI chatbot companions who emulate human relationships. These products are unregulated and unsafe, particularly for children.
I spoke to Megan Garcia, an attorney from Florida. Megan is the mother of Sewell Setzer III, who died by suicide in February 2024 after being emotionally manipulated and abused by an AI chatbot. Megan is filing a lawsuit and sharing her story to warn families of the dangers of this technology and to demand accountability from Character.AI and the tech industry.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
Tech Justice Law Project: https://techjusticelaw.org
Social Media Victims Law Center: https://socialmediavictims.org

Oct 26, 2024 • 31min
The Hidden Dangers of Roblox (with Titania Jordan)
Is Roblox safe for kids? The fact that Nickolodeon gave Roblox the 2024 Teen Choice Award for Favorite Video Game would incidate that Roblox is in fact, safe. But the reality is much darker.
A new report by Hindenburg Research labeled Roblox a "pedophile hellscape for kids." In today's episode, Titania Jordan of Bark and Nicki of Scrolling 2 Death break down the report findings and make recommendations for parents.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
Meta Exposed documentary by Channel 7 News
Social Studies documentary on Hulu
Interview with Meta whistleblower David Erb
Hindenburg Research investigation into Roblox
This episode is sponsored by Bark Technologies.
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Oct 25, 2024 • 9min
Big Tech Gut Check (week of October 21, 2024)
The Big Tech Gut Check is a super quick, weekly update on all things social media and Big Tech.
Social Media & Big Tech highlights for this week:
Can AI be blamed for 14-year-old Sewell Setzer's suicide?
Big Tech Spends $51 Million on Lobbying Against Kids Safety Bills
Speaker Mike Johnson and Majority Leader Scalise Hold Up Kids Online Safety Act
Contact Speaker Johnson
Contact Majority Leader Scalise
New iMessage Feature Allows Children to Report Nudity to Apple
Roblox Makes Parental Control Changes (and takes no responsibilty for harm to children)
Check back on Fridays for everything that parents need to know about the platforms our children are spending hours on every day.

Oct 24, 2024 • 36min
Let Go To Let Grow (with Lenore Skenazy)
Lenore Skenazy's life completely changed after allowing her child to navigate the New York City subway alone at just 9 years old.
She went on to publish a book called Free-Range Kids which grew into a movement. Now, Lenore is the president of Let Grow, the national nonprofit she co-founded with three others, including Jonathan Haidt of "The Anxious Generation."
Her mission is to make it easy, normal and legal to give kids back some old-fashioned independence.
In this conversation, Lenore discusses the societal shift toward fear-based parenting and the decline of free play. She gives practical strategies for parents to encourage their children to take risks and develop much-needed confidence. Skenazy emphasizes the need for parents to let go and trust their children, highlighting the benefits of independence for both kids and parents.
Could the cure to an anxious generation be as easy as letting go?
Resources mentioned in the episode:
Let Grow: https://letgrow.org/
The Let Grow Experience (a free independence-building curriculum for teachers/schools)
The Let Grow Play Club (free implementation guide for schools, YMCAs, churches, synagogues, etc., to create a time and place for kids to play and socialize in a no-phone zone)
After Babel by Jonathan Haidt and Zach Rausch
The Anxious Generation (NY Times Best Seller)

Oct 21, 2024 • 37min
Tracking vs. Trust: Striking a Balance in the Digital Age (with Ava Smithing)
The average age that kids get a smartphone is nearing 10 years old. Watches are being given closer to 5.
Parents primarily make these decisions for safety; to be able to track their children and get ahold of each other in case of an emergency.
But do these devices actually keep children safe? Or are we hindering their autonomy and sense of independence while also potentially exposing them to the dangers that come along with a device?
I brought in youth advocate Ava Smithing of Young People's Alliance to share her experience as a pre-teen and teen being tracked by her parents.
"I didn't start lying to my mother until she started tracking me like that," shares Ava.
There are so many takeaways for parents in this conversation where we vulnerably discuss finding a balance between protection and trust.

Oct 18, 2024 • 9min
Big Tech Gut Check (week of October 14, 2024)
The Big Tech Gut Check is a super quick, weekly update on all things social media and Big Tech.
Social Media & Big Tech highlights for this week:
Instagram Announces New Education Campaign to Fight Sextortion
Meta Exposed Documentary by Channel 7 News
Meta Confirms Layoffs Across Companies
Social Media Faces Big Changes in UK Under New Ofcom Rules
First UK-US Online Safety Agreement to Keep Kids Safe Online
Survey: Colorado Teens use Social media More and at Younger Ages
List of end-to-end encrypted apps to block from your child's device:
Signal
Whatsapp
Telegram
Facebook Messenger
Wire
Element
AWS Wickr
Briar
Pryvate Messenger
SafeChat
SafeSwiss
Proton Mail
SimpleX Chat
Confide
Delta Chat
CoverMe
P2P Messenger
Olvid
xPal
TeleGuard
Check back on Fridays for everything that parents need to know about the platforms our children are spending hours on every day.
This podcast episode is sponsored by Bark Technologies.
Learn about the Bark Phone: https://info.bark.us/scrolling2deathbp
Learn about the Bark App for iPhones and Androids: https://info.bark.us/scrolling2death_bark *Use code SCROLLING2DEATH FOR 10% OFF
The Bark Watch is coming soon! Sign up for the waitlist: https://info.bark.us/bark-watch-s2d

Oct 17, 2024 • 34min
Teachers Talk (with Matt Brady)
I was super eager to catch up with long-time educator Matt Brady about screens at school. We dive deep into phone bans and also school-issued tech.
Meet Matt Brady:
Matt Brady is a Physics and Chemistry teacher in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. Came in through lateral entry after spending 10 years writing about comic books and pop culture for various outlets. Prior to that, he was in graduate school for a PhD in Physiology & Pharmacology; prior to that, earned a Master’s in Marine Biology, and prior to that, earned a B.S. in Biology.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
Matt's Substack, Teacher Teacher
The one about school shootings
School Tech: Know Your Rights (with Julie Liddell)
Phone Free Schools Movement (my interview with co-founder Kim Whitman)
7 questions to ask your school destrict about devices
This episode is sponsored by Bark Technologies.
Learn about the Bark Phone
Learn about the Bark App for iPhones and Androids.
*Use code SCROLLING2DEATH FOR 10% OFF
Learn about the Bark Watch

Oct 14, 2024 • 29min
End Exploitation (with Dawn Hawkins)
For this interview, I brought in Dawn Hawkins, CEO of the National Center on Sexual Exploitation. NCOSE is the leading organization exposing the connections between all forms of sexual exploitation, including sex trafficking, prostitution, pornography, and child sexual abuse.
In addition to running NCOSE, Dawn is a mom of 5 and I loved learning about her approach to screens and her decision to homeschool after learning about the reliance on screens at her local public school system.
This conversation is all about action and the power of parents' voices. One of the most vital ways parents can use their voices in this moment is to support the Kids Online Safety Act. This bill will give our kids much-needed protection online.
This episode is sponsored by Bark Technologies.
Learn about the Bark App for iPhones and Androids:
*Use code SCROLLING2DEATH FOR 10% OFF
Check out the Bark Phone

Oct 11, 2024 • 8min
Big Tech Gut Check (week of October 7, 2024)
The Big Tech Gut Check is a super quick, weekly update on all things social media and Big Tech.
Social Media & Big Tech highlights for this week:
[REPORT] Roblox is a Pedophile Hellscape for Kids
14 U.S. States Sue TikTok for Harm to Children
TikTok Redacted Documents in Teen Safety Lawsuit Revealed
[REPORT] CDC Warns Parents About Social Media Link to Suicide
Families Sue Social Media for Harm to Children
[WARNING] DEA Issues Warning About Illegal Online Pharmacies
Snapchat Begins Testing 2 Harmful New Features
Nevada Lawsuit Against Snapchat, TikTok, Meta Moves to Trial
Check back on Fridays for everything that parents need to know about the platforms our children are spending hours on every day.

Oct 10, 2024 • 34min
How Parents can Advocate for Change (with Andrea Brambila)
I checked my Instagram messages last week and saw that the incredible Andrea Brambila had reached out. She asked very simply, "How do I get involved in advocacy?"
I'm not an expert, but have learned a lot in the past 12 months through attending Congressional hearings, lobbying in D.C. and advocating on a local level at my school district and school board meetings.
Andrea led the conversation by asking questions that many parents may have about how to get more involved in protecting kids online.
This is an extremely important conversation because the fact is, parents' voices are what is going to change the tide. When parents say we've had enough with our children being harmed by Big Tech, that is when we'll see change.
If you have specific questions that we didn't answer, please reach out!
Resources mentioned in the episode:
Ranking of U.S. States for Online Safety
Interviews about KOSA with Josh Golin of Fairplay, legislative expert Patrick Lyden and Alix Fraser of Issue One
Mothers Against Media Addiction
Big Tech Gut Check (weekly updates from Scrolling 2 Death)
Newsletter from Project Liberty
After Babel Substack (by Jonathan Haidt and team)
Andrea Brambila is a mental health therapist and mother of two. She specializes in perinatal mental health and developmental psychology. Through her social media platform (@brambila_bits), she encourages other parents to reduce the overwhelm and overstimulation through independent play and low-screen living.