
Scrolling 2 Death
Scrolling 2 Death is a podcast for parents who are worried about social media. Through interviews with parents and experts, we explore smartphone use, screen time, school-issued devices, social media use and so much more.
Latest episodes

May 29, 2025 • 17min
Be Their Voice: How to Help Pass Laws That Protect Children (with Rick Lane)
In this powerful conversation, Nicki Petrossi and Rick Lane dive into the latest legislative moves to make the internet safer for kids. They break down the Take It Down Act, a critical step in fighting back against non-consensual explicit content and AI deepfakes. But the work isn't done. Parents must continue the pressure to pass additional bills like The DEFIANCE Act, NO FAKES Act and the Kids Online Safety Act.Nicki and Rick stress the vital role of parents, communities, and advocates in pushing these protections forward. They also tackle the growing threats posed by AI, highlighting how new tech can be exploited in harmful ways if left unchecked.The conversation wraps with a clear and urgent message: Parents need to stay alert, get involved, and be a powerful force in shaping a safer digital world for their kids.Contact your Representative in the House and your Senator.*Tell them you support the NO FAKES Act and DEFIANCE Act. *Tell them you do not support the moratorium on AI regulation that was included in the budget reconciliation bill.Letter from 40 Attorneys General Opposing moratorium on AI regulation.

May 27, 2025 • 51min
Inside Meta: When Growth Trumps Safety (with whistleblower Kelly Stonelake)
In this explosive episode, I connected with Kelly Stonelake, a former Meta insider who spent 15 years at the company witnessing firsthand how the tech giant prioritizes growth at the expense of user safety. From early roles shaping the Facebook product to leading teams behind major launches, Kelly shares what finally pushed her to speak out. Most recently, she was involved in the development of Horizon Worlds, Meta’s flagship VR game. Despite internal concerns over safety risks and product readiness, Kelly reveals how the company steamrolled ahead, driven by its relentless race to dominate the metaverse. This conversation is a sobering look at the human cost of tech ambition—and why insiders like Kelly are risking everything to tell the truth.Content Warning: Includes discussion of internal company misconduct and safety failures affecting vulnerable users.Substack: Overturned by Kelly Stonelake

May 23, 2025 • 10min
Big Tech Gut Check (week of May 19, 2025)
The Big Tech Gut Check is a super quick, weekly update on all things social media and Big Tech.Social Media & Big Tech highlights for this week:President Trump Issues Executive Order to Advance AI Education for American YouthTAKE IT DOWN Act Signed Into LawSnapchat Test Account Shows Sexual Content Pushed to Teen Within 5 MinutesTikTok Expands Meditation FeatureDEA 2025 National Drug Threat Assessment

May 22, 2025 • 18min
Let's Get Real: How we cope + mental health strategies for families (with Titania Jordan)
In this honest and heartfelt conversation, Nicki Reisberg sits down with Titania Jordan—chief parent officer at Bark—to talk about the emotional realities of navigating families changes and prioritizing mental health for both parents and children. Together, they unpack the pressures families face today, including rising rates of anxiety and depression among teens.From personal stories to professional insights, Nicki and Titania explore the power of therapy, the importance of normalizing mental health conversations, and practical coping strategies that can truly make a difference. They also spotlight Bark’s new partnership with Talkspace, which is helping expand access to affordable, convenient mental health resources for families across the country.Whether you're a parent going through a tough season or someone who cares deeply about the mental well-being of kids, this episode offers both comfort and concrete tools for support.Learn about the Bark Phone.Learn about the Bark App for iPhones and Androids. *Use code SCROLLING2DEATH FOR 10% OFFLearn about the Bark Watch.

May 19, 2025 • 23min
A Teen Fighting Screen Addiction (with Atiksh Bhan)
Fifteen-year-old and co-founder of Lookupp, Atiksh Bhan, remembers when life was better. He and his friends would spend their afternoons biking, exploring the woods and playing games outside. But then, smartphones came along. =Instead of adventures, they’d spend their time sitting around, scrolling through TikTok. "We’d be huddled around one phone, looking over someone’s shoulder. It just wasn't fun anymore," Atiksh says. And even though they were ‘connected’ through technology, he felt lonelier than ever. Atiksh and his brother only had basic flip phones, but they started to notice a shift in their peers who had smartphones: increasing anxiety, depression and eating disorders. Adding phones to typical teen dilemmas, like breakups and friend drama, was like throwing gasoline on a fire. Determined to make a change, they created LookUpp – an app that rewards you for staying off your phone when you’re with people you care about. The longer your screen is off, the more points you earn. And they’re teaming up with parents, communities, and local businesses to translate points into real-life rewards. Tune in to hear directly from Atiksh, a teen navigating the digital age, as he and Nicki from Scrolling 2 Death talk about rebuilding connections, before it’s too late.

May 15, 2025 • 44min
Winning the Screen Time Battle: How AngelQ Helps Families Thrive (with founder Tim Estes)
Tim Estes of AngelQ shares eye-opening new research on the growing screen time crisis—and introduces AngelQ as a powerful solution for families.In this episode, we're diving into the everyday tech battles parents know all too well—screen time struggles, endless scrolling, and the constant worry about what kids are seeing online. We break down some surprising new research on how tech is reshaping family life and why so many parents are worried about screen addiction.But it’s not all doom and gloom! We’re excited to introduce AngelQ, a fresh, AI-powered solution that helps kids explore the internet safely, learn smarter, and have fun—all while giving parents real peace of mind. We’ll chat about how personalized content filters, smarter screen time management, and ethical tech can make a huge difference. Plus, why staying involved and working with your kids is the real game-changer in today’s digital world.Download AngelQ.Angel is offering the first 1,000 users one year free of Angel. Limited time offer.

May 12, 2025 • 44min
States Take Action on Phones in School (with Rep. Angela Arsenault)
In this episode, Nicki Reisberg sits down with Vermont State Representative Angela Arsenault to talk about her groundbreaking Phone and Social Media Free Schools Bill. They explore how removing digital distractions from the classroom can support students’ academic growth, social development, and mental health. Rep. Arsenault opens up about navigating tech use with her own kids and addresses the common concerns from parents and educators about safety and communication. They also dig into the legislative side of things—how schools can implement healthier tech policies, why student data privacy matters, and what role parents can play in driving change. It’s an honest, insightful look at what it really takes to make schools safer and more focused in a digital age.If you would like to join a weekly Zoom meeting to learn more about bringing Phone-Free Schools to your state, register here.Review the specifics of the Phones and Social Media-Free Schools bill here.

May 10, 2025 • 23min
I'm suing a school app - Here's what parents need to know (with Attorney Andy Liddell)
This week, I break down why I’ve filed a lawsuit against Seesaw, one of the most widely used EdTech apps in K–6 classrooms—and what every parent needs to know about how their child’s personal data is being harvested, stored, and shared without their consent.Seesaw claims to help track student learning progress. But what I discovered when I requested access to the data they’d collected about my children left me physically sick: thousands of files, photos, videos, audio clips, journal entries, even AI-generated assignments—much of it deeply personal, intimate, and shockingly invasive.Joining me is Attorney Andy Liddell from the Ed Tech Law Center, who walks us through the legal violations at play, how edtech companies are bypassing federal law, and how schools are unintentionally (or knowingly) exposing kids to serious data privacy and safety risks.If you think this couldn’t happen to your child—you need to listen. Because if they use school-issued iPads, Chromebooks, or apps like Seesaw, it already is.If you're a parent, teacher, or school leader who wants to understand your rights—and your child’s rights—don’t miss this episode.Contact Andy and Julie Liddell of EdTech Law Center here.

May 8, 2025 • 47min
Bell to Bell: Why Schools Are Fighting Back Against Smartphones (with Principal Armen Torigian)
Are phones ruining school? One high school principal says yes, and he did something about it.At Bullard High in Fresno, California, students wandered the halls like zombies, glued to their screens. Lunchtime was silent. Classrooms were battlegrounds for attention. Test scores dropped. Anxiety soared.Principal Armen Torigian, a Bullard alumnus, took pride in his community and remembered a very different high school experience. He knew times had changed, but he couldn’t shake the feeling that students deserved better—high school should be better than this.So he made a bold move: a bell-to-bell phone ban.It wasn’t easy. Parents pushed back. Students threatened him and his family. But he held the line, convinced it was the right thing to do. Was it?Join Principal Torigan and Nicki of Scrolling 2 Death as they unpack the ban, the fallout, and the promising changes unfolding on campus. His experience makes us reconsider: what role should phones play in our classrooms and our daily lives?

May 5, 2025 • 27min
The Threat of A.I. Deepfakes: A Wake-Up Call for Parents (with Adam Billen)
15% of High Schoolers say they know someone in their school who has had deepfake pornography made of them in the last year.In this eye-opening episode, Nicki Reisberg sits down with Adam Billen of Encode to unpack some of the most urgent and unsettling developments in AI—from the rise of chatbots to the explosion of deep fakes. They dive into what Meta is up to with its new chatbot rollout on Instagram, and why that should raise red flags for anyone with kids online. The conversation then turns to deep fakes—how scarily easy they are to make, and the real damage they can cause, especially to children. Nicki and Adam break it all down and call for action—from parents, lawmakers, and schools—to step up and protect the next generation.Watch or listen to Nicki and Adam's first conversation about AI chatbots here.Take it Down Tool by NCMECChild Deepfake Incident Map