

Deal by Deal: A Private Equity Podcast
McGuireWoods
Welcome to Deal-by-Deal, a Podcast by McGuireWoods. Deal-by-Deal invites you to conversations with experienced independent sponsors and other private equity professionals. Join McGuireWoods partners Greg Hawver and Jeff Brooker as they explore middle-market Private Equity M&A to provide you with timely insights and relevant takeaways.
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McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we do gives our clients a competitive edge in everything they do. Our law firm, over its 186-year history, has earned the loyalty of our many long-standing clients with a deep understanding of their businesses, and broad skills in corporate transactions, high-stakes disputes, and complex regulatory and compliance matters.
To learn more about McGuireWoods or to contact us, please visit our website at mcguirewoods.com.
This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
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Jun 24, 2024 • 24min
The Challenges of Independent Sponsorship with Jonny Miller and Mario Burstein of Platt Park Capital Partners
On this episode of Deal by Deal, co-hosts Jason Griffith and Trey Andrews welcome Jonny Miller and Mario Burstein of Platt Park Capital Partners to discuss their emergence into independent sponsorship.Tune in as Jonny and Mario discuss how Platt Park came to be, how they secured their first deal, and how they can apply what they learned in their first deal to future deals. Jonny and Mario talk about managing seller expectations, focusing on the process instead of aiming for perfection, and how to make the transition from an acquisition to running the day-to-day operations of an acquired company.Connect and Learn More☑️ Jonny Miller | LinkedIn☑️ Mario Burstein | LinkedIn☑️ Platt Park Capital Partners☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter/X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

May 30, 2024 • 20min
Developments in M&A Insurance Market with Matt Heinz of Lockton
Recently, the M&A market has cooled since it burned red-hot in the aftermath of Covid. What impact has the slowdown in M&A activity had on insurance products related to mergers and acquisitions?On this episode of Deal-by-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by Matt Heinz of Lockton to discuss developments in M&A insurance products. Specifically, Matt talks about why it’s actually a good time to be a buyer of rep and warranty insurance in M&A deals, how rep and warranty insurance premiums are now (compared to 2021), and the various aspects of M&A deals that can be insured.Tune in as Greg and Matt bring you up to speed on transaction insurance in the current M&A environment!Meet Your GuestName: Mathew HeinzCompany: Lockton | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter/X | YouTube | VimeoConnect: LinkedInContactConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

Apr 25, 2024 • 23min
LIVE FROM EMC: Emerging Manager John Huhn of Compass Group Reflects on Journey from Independent Sponsor to Raising Multiple Funds
On this episode of Deal-by-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by John Huhn, Managing Partner at the Compass Group. Tune in as Greg and John discuss lessons learned during the Compass Group’s successful independent sponsor investing phase. John also provides key insights for those PE investors seeking to raise a committed fund in the current environment.Meet Your Guest Name: John HuhnCompany: Compass GroupConnect: LinkedInContactConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

Feb 27, 2024 • 22min
Secondary Transactions: Overview, Drivers, and Market Predictions with Darren O’Brien of Campbell Lutyens
On this episode of Deal-by-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by Darren O'Brien, Managing Director of Campbell Lutyens, the largest independent private capital advisory firm. Tune in as Greg and Darren discuss the hot topic of secondary transactions, a growing niche area. Starting with a high-level introduction to secondary transactions and the secondary market, Darren covers the distinction between LP-led and GP-led secondaries, continuation funds and why a sponsor might choose to pursue a continuation vehicle, how valuations are calculated, market drivers, what to expect going forward, and next steps for interested investors.Meet Your Guest Name: Darren O'BrienCompany: Campbell LutyensConnect: LinkedInContactConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

Jan 25, 2024 • 29min
2024 Outlook for Founder-Owned Business/Middle Market M&A, with Investment Banker Derek Zacarias of DAK
On this episode of Deal-by-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by investment banker Derek Zacarias from DAK. Together, they explore what the next 12 months may hold for M&A relating to founder-owned businesses, private equity-backed transactions and the broader middle market. This engaging discussion explores the macroeconomic trends as well as more intricate strategies and emerging themes anticipated to play a pivotal role in the coming year. Greg and Derek also reflect on 2023, a year that saw relatively subdued M&A activity in the middle market. Finally, Derek offers valuable insights on approaches that can lead independent sponsors and other private equity professionals to success in navigating auctions and seizing M&A opportunities throughout 2024.

Nov 7, 2023 • 28min
How Heightened FTC Scrutiny Affects Roll-Up Strategy, with McGuireWoods’ Holden Brooks
Discover the impact of heightened FTC scrutiny on roll-up strategies for private equity investors and learn about the importance of antitrust considerations in deals below the HSR Act threshold. Hear insights on navigating antitrust complaints, evaluating merger criteria, and crucial document reviews to ensure regulatory compliance and deal clarity. Take away tips for mitigating risks and integrating antitrust awareness into operations from McGuireWoods' antitrust partner Holden Brooks.

Oct 23, 2023 • 27min
Navigating the Path to Raising a Committed Fund with McGuireWoods’ Rick Starling
On this episode of Deal-by-Deal, host Greg Hawver and fellow McGuireWoods partner, fund formation lawyer Rick Starling, discuss considerations and alternatives to raising a committed fund, analyze what’s going on in today’s market, and share insights on the phases of raising a fund.The episode also explores fund structures such as the "proof of concept fund" for emerging managers, highlights key differences between traditional fund economics and deal-by-deal economics, and briefly discusses operational shifts such as building out the back office and investment adviser registration.Meet Your Guest Name: Rick StarlingTitle: Partner, McGuireWoodsSpeciality: Rick is a fund formation lawyer with over 20 years of experience representing investment managers in the establishment of private funds and related products and representing institutional investors with respect to alternative investments.Connect: LinkedInContactConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

Oct 16, 2023 • 30min
New Factors to Consider in Due Diligence, With Kroll’s Cathleen Hughes
On this episode of Deal-By-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by Cathleen Hughes, Kroll’s Director of Corporate Finance and Restructuring, for a deep dive into due diligence, including M&A transactions and post-closing.Risks associated with M&A deals have evolved. “And these risks include those that can be discovered pre-transaction as well as risks that may not exist at the outset, but can require some continual monitoring post-close in order to mitigate the emergence of such risks.”Greg and Cathleen discuss how the due diligence process guides the successful completion of a deal. It can be divided into various phases including initial structuring diligence and confirmatory diligence. They also emphasize the importance of addressing the post-closing aspects of due diligence, which can be overlooked as investors move on to new deals. Cathleen also provides insights on due diligence categories that are often overlooked but very impactful. These include background checks, corporate culture, cyber risk, and digital chatter. Meet Your Guest Name: Cathleen HughesTitle: Director, Corporate Finance and Restructuring at KrollSpeciality: Cathleen is a director in Kroll’s Corporate Finance group, based in Chicago. She brings more than 20 years of experience to her work in M&A with a focus on financial sponsor coverage.Connect: LinkedIn Acquired KnowledgeTop takeaways from this episode Make the most of financial and accounting due diligence in M&A deals. Conduct a quality of earnings assessment prior to the transaction with a thorough corporate structure analysis. There are new due diligence options to consider. Consider background checks and investigations in diligence, especially for deals involving new markets or new-to-you categories. Consider digital chatter an early warning indicator. Monitoring online discussions and activities across various web platforms can provide insights into emerging risks before they materialize. ContactConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

Jul 25, 2023 • 33min
Banker’s View of the Current M&A Market, With Hector Torres of DC Advisory
On this episode of Deal-By-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by investment banker Hector Torres, Managing Director of DC Advisory’s global healthcare team, for a discussion on the new normal in the M&A market, especially involving the healthcare industry. Hector explains that, while market activity is starting to level out from the torrent of transactions in the second half of 2021, the lower middle market and middle market are still thriving. Flexibility is now the hallmark of successful deals, with parties increasingly creating bespoke processes to better meet their goals.Hector also provides guidance to independent sponsors and other private equity buyers seeking to win actionable deals in the current environment.Meet Your Guest Name: Hector TorresTitle: Managing Director at DC AdvisorySpeciality: Based in the Chicago office, Hector is a Managing Director in DC Advisory’s global Healthcare team. Hector has over 16 years’ investment banking experience, specializing in M&A and strategic advisory transactions. Before joining DC Advisory, Hector was the Co-Head of Healthcare Investment Banking at FocalPoint Partners, where he led a national team of M&A and Capital Markets professionals focused on hospitals and health systems, physician practice management, post-acute care and other related healthcare sectors.Connect: LinkedInAcquired KnowledgeTop takeaways from this episode State of play in the healthcare industry. After the last year-and-a-half’s “perfect storm” of low-cost capital, high demand for healthcare services and assets, and record levels of private equity fundraising, the market is starting to cool off again. Back to basics. Buyers and their underwriters tend to have great confidence in the viability of the investment, but Hector is seeing that lenders are scrutinizing everything in unprecedented ways. Therefore, having a credible base case and performance attribution for the growth case is vital. Maintaining flexibility. Recently, we’ve seen assets wanting to retain flexibility to only make the deals that meet all their goals, so they are “tiptoeing” into the market and being patient. This requires heavy preparation on the sell side, including putting together market studies, a full financing package, and the quality of earnings and revenue. ContactConnect with us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

May 25, 2023 • 34min
Behind the Deal: Finding Success in the Independent Sponsor-Capital Provider Model
Guests Evan Gallinson, Partner at Merit Capital Partners, and Jonathan Schilowitz, Partner at MFG Partners, discuss their successful independent sponsor-capital provider relationship. They dive into starting a deal during the pandemic, maintaining trust, navigating a complex ESOP transaction, overcoming challenges in the sale process, and their plans for future partnerships.