The Standup

🔗 Sponsored by Code Rabbithttps://coderabbit.link/primeagen-vscode⸻🎓 Is College Still Worth It in 2025?Welcome to The Standup – where developers, creators, and founders debate the big questions. In this episode, we sit down with David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), the creator of Ruby on Rails and Basecamp co-founder.👉 Is College Worth It in 2025?We dive deep into:⏳ The ROI of college in a post-AI world🇺🇸 Why American higher ed is broken (from a Danish POV)📉 Are CS degrees still worth $250K?💸 The myth of the “four-year luxury cruise”🤖 How AI is disrupting the junior dev job market🔍 Hiring: Is college even a useful signal anymore?🧠 IQ vs wisdom vs vibes – what really matters in hiring🧰 Is programming a trade? Should we move to apprenticeships?👨‍🌾 Why every dev wants to be a farmer (and why that’s delusional)Whether you’re considering college, hiring devs, or already knee-deep in student debt, this conversation pulls no punches and may just change how you think about education, hiring, and the future of software development.⸻📌 Chapters:0:00 intro 2:05 is college still worth it in 2025? 5:48 the cost of college in the U.S. vs Europe 6:57 sponsor: CodeRabbit 7:42 good point9:10 DHH explains the Danish education system 13:02 is college just a luxury cruise? 17:45 what are you actually buying with a degree? 21:20 how companies *really* hire developers 26:11 Casey’s take: programming should be a trade 30:40 is college a filter for IQ or just vibes? 45:50 what skills matter more than a degree 49:20 how to actually learn to code in 2025 53:00 is college redeemable? final thoughts 57:15 wrap-up & what’s next on the podcast#IsCollegeWorthIt #DHH #CaseyMuratori #DeveloperPodcast #SoftwareEngineering #TechPodcast #BootcampVsCollege #ProgrammerLife #TechCareers #TheStartupPodcast

☕ ssh terminal.shopTimestamps:0:00 intro / pre-meeting chaos1:48 Welcome to The Standup 3:16 Prime explains his two-PC streaming config5:02 Real story: Netflix internal meeting leak scare7:00 Why do game devs still use Windows?9:23 Misread tweet kicks off Linux vs Windows debate10:48 Casey: No one “loves” Windows — they tolerate it13:29 Why studios can’t easily switch from Windows15:47 IT/security & enterprise restrictions on Linux20:15 Why clean-slate devs still choose Windows22:22 Debugger superiority on Windows explained24:48 Steam Deck & RAD debugger could change the tide32:34 Anti-cheat isn’t the main Linux roadblock35:01 Why do *you* use Mac or Linux?36:47 Prime’s Windows pain & Linux love40:26 Linux window managers vs Exposé46:29 The fragility of custom Linux setups51:09 Web dev has even more breaking changes57:27 AI doesn’t fix underlying dev tool problems1:00:04 Trash’s hot take on over-optimizing workflows1:02:35 Prime explains why he optimizes *everything*1:07:30 Valve anecdote: why default setups can be smarter1:14:15 Keyboard nerd segment1:16:11 Joke outro + how to “save” WindowsWhy Do Game Developers STILL Use Windows?? | The Standup🎮💻 In this episode of Standup, we dive deep into the eternal operating system war: Windows vs. macOS vs. Linux. Legendary game dev Casey Muratori (of Handmade Hero fame) joins Primeagen, Trash, and Tee to unpack why game developers still use Windows, even when most modern developers swear by Linux or Mac.📌 Topics We Cover:• Why game devs prefer Windows (spoiler: it’s not because they like it)• MacOS vs. Linux vs. Windows for developers• Is GDB actually garbage?• Debugging tools: RAD Debugger, Visual Studio, and why Linux falls short• Why enterprise studios can’t just switch to Linux• Anti-cheat, Steam Deck, and the future of Linux gaming• The unbearable pain of Windows terminals• Why developers obsess over window managers and productivity setups• And of course… the real debate: should devs optimize everything or just get stuff done?🔥 Whether you’re a web developer, game dev, Linux power user, or someone just trying to survive corporate IT policies — this one hits every nerve.👇 DROP YOUR OS HOT TAKES IN THE COMMENTS 👇#GameDev #WindowsVsLinux #DeveloperPodcast #StandupPodcast #CaseyMuratori #LinuxGaming #DevTools #Primeagen #TechPodcast #Debugging #VisualStudio #MacVsPC #WebDev #SoftwareEngineering #SteamDeck #OpenSource #RADDebugger

Twitch https://twitch.tv/ThePrimeagen Discord https://discord.gg/ThePrimeagen☕ ssh terminal.shop📘 Carson’s book: https://hypermedia.systems 🧠 Grug Brained Dev: https://grugbrain.devTimestamps:0:00 Intro & chaos before the call1:45 Meet Carson Gross (HTMX creator & professor)3:29 What is "Coding Dirty"?5:12 Why Carson hates small methods7:24 The myth of clean code and method size10:06 What the data actually says about long functions13:11 Why abstraction is not free15:06 Long vs short functions: maintainability & changeability18:00 Why small functions make debugging harder21:34 Beautiful at any size: the case for fat functions24:19 The myth of good naming solving complexity26:55 TDD, unit tests, and when they help vs hurt35:39 End-to-end testing: the good, the bad, the bloated43:23 Meme culture, cringe, and developer humor

ssh terminal.shopTimestamps:0:00 – Intro & Time Zone Debate1:27 – Meet Dax: New Guest Introduction2:29 – Elizabeth Holmes' Partner Starts a New Blood Testing Company7:56 – New Pretty URL Browser: Scam Risks & Usability13:39 – Are Clean URLs Safer or More Deceptive for Normies?15:52 – Dax Rants About Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky21:07 – Why Airbnb Experiences Might Fail25:00 – “Trash is a Flat Earther?” 30:16 – Absurd Airbnb Quotes About Steve Jobs34:00 – Coinbase Hack: $20M Bounty Instead of Ransom35:44 – Closing Roast: Founders With “Show Muscles”

The gang talks arch, linux, windows, and of course, your favorite goofs & gaffes.ssh terminal.shop, btw

Join Casey Muratori, a software engineering expert and regular guest, as he digs into the quirks of Test Driven Development (TDD). They hilariously evaluate the pros and cons of TDD through real-world anecdotes. The discussion shifts to Progressive Driven Development, emphasizing careful changes for better user satisfaction. With amusing tales from the NeoVim project, they reveal the challenges of maintaining effective tests. Lastly, they delve into the paradox of code coverage, critiquing unrealistic standards with a witty nod to pop culture.

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This time we have Casey and Prime talking about how to make a video game good. It’s a bit of a departure from the normal format, but we think you’ll enjoy it :)

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