

Chief Change Officer
Vince Chan
What’s Stopping You from Outgrowing Yourself?
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Chief Change Officer isn’t just another podcast. It ranks in the Top 3% globally, hit #1 in Careers (US), and cracked the Top 10 in Business (US)—because it offers what others don’t: expansive human intelligence, shared by the world’s most extraordinary thinkers and doers.
This is the space for transformation gurus, bold hearts, black sheep, and unsung visionaries. We go beyond digitized tips and AI-smooth talk. Here, you get real, time-tested, experience-driven wisdom—the kind that blends logic and love, art and science, hindsight and foresight.
For me, this show marks career transition #18. Across 17 transitions, I’ve been mentored by global changemakers who helped me emerge stronger and freer. Now, I’m passing that power forward—through raw, unfiltered conversations with extraordinary people across cultures, industries, and identities.
If you’re a growth progressive, a black horse, a visionary underdog, or someone boldly rewriting the rules—you’re already one of us. Because you are the Chief Change Officer.
Our mission?
To help you become wiser in action, clearer in thought, and more ambitious in motion—so you can outgrow yourself and unlock outcomes beyond imagination or calculation.
A better you is already unfolding.
130,000+ followers are outgrowing.
Join them on LinkedIn, Apple, Spotify, and YouTube @chiefchangeofficer.
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Chief Change Officer isn’t just another podcast. It ranks in the Top 3% globally, hit #1 in Careers (US), and cracked the Top 10 in Business (US)—because it offers what others don’t: expansive human intelligence, shared by the world’s most extraordinary thinkers and doers.
This is the space for transformation gurus, bold hearts, black sheep, and unsung visionaries. We go beyond digitized tips and AI-smooth talk. Here, you get real, time-tested, experience-driven wisdom—the kind that blends logic and love, art and science, hindsight and foresight.
For me, this show marks career transition #18. Across 17 transitions, I’ve been mentored by global changemakers who helped me emerge stronger and freer. Now, I’m passing that power forward—through raw, unfiltered conversations with extraordinary people across cultures, industries, and identities.
If you’re a growth progressive, a black horse, a visionary underdog, or someone boldly rewriting the rules—you’re already one of us. Because you are the Chief Change Officer.
Our mission?
To help you become wiser in action, clearer in thought, and more ambitious in motion—so you can outgrow yourself and unlock outcomes beyond imagination or calculation.
A better you is already unfolding.
130,000+ followers are outgrowing.
Join them on LinkedIn, Apple, Spotify, and YouTube @chiefchangeofficer.
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Dec 23, 2024 • 33min
#117 From Whiskey to Wi-Fi: Tabist CEO Ryota Tanozaki's Career of Bold Transitions
Ryota Tanozaki began his career selling shochu at Suntory. Fast forward 20 years, and he’s now the President and CEO of Tabist (formerly OYO Japan), leading the tech revolution for over 90,000 Japanese hotels.
His impressive resume includes roles as Strategy Consultant at BearingPoint, Product Manager at Hakuhodo Consulting, General Manager at Transcosmos, and leadership positions at Facebook as Head of Instagram and Vertical Industry.
A seasoned executive, Ryota also shares his expertise as a part-time instructor at Globis University.
We first connected during our Executive MBA at Chicago Booth (2013–2015), and I’m thrilled to share his incredible journey.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Navigating the Storm
“Three months into my role at Tavist, COVID hit. I had to lead a restructuring—redefining the organization, renegotiating contracts, and crafting a new mission, vision, and strategy. Perseverance became not just a word but a lifeline.”
Adapting to Change
“COVID brought challenges I couldn’t foresee, yet it became a proving ground. Four years later, I’m still here, knowing that persistence shapes both leaders and the organizations they guide.”
When Purpose Pays Better Than Paychecks
“Our team can’t match the salaries of big tech giants, but what we offer is purpose. By sharing our mission—empowering small and medium-sized hotels in rural Japan through technology—we create a connection that resonates deeply with our people.”
Walking the Talk: When Leaders Roll Up Their Sleeves
“A leader who pitches directly to clients? Now that’s commitment. By personally visiting rural cities and convincing potential partners, I showed my team that execution starts at the top. If I can do it, they’re inspired to follow suit—and it makes the mission real for everyone involved.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Ryota Tanozaki
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--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.
6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 23, 2024 • 24min
#116 Katie Curry: Advice for Gen Z in a World of Change
Katie Curry knows a thing or two about managing change—both the planned kind and the “what just happened?” variety. From Bulgaria to Wall Street, she’s reinvented herself more times than a Broadway actor swapping costumes mid-performance. In this episode, Katie spills the tea on how she keeps thriving while leading, learning, and pivoting.
Her secret sauce? It’s a three-part recipe: 1) Build your superpowers (yes, you have one—it’s just in beta), 2) Choose your squad wisely (no toxic vibes allowed), and 3) Embrace change, but don’t treat it like a trend. Katie reminds us that pivots should be thoughtful, not careless leaps into the void. Think strategy, not drama.
Katie also dives into her Gen Z experiences—raising two at home and leading them at work. Spoiler alert: they’re not just TikTok pros. Gen Z craves meritocracy, speed, and authenticity. And as a leader, Katie’s all about keeping it real while learning a thing or two from her “reverse mentors.”
This episode isn’t just about career moves or navigating a multigenerational workforce—it’s a call to action to build real relationships, develop human skills, and, most importantly, laugh while you’re at it. Because if Katie can salsa dance through change, you can, too.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Raising Gen Z Insights
“As a mother of two Gen Z kids, I’ve learned patience, adaptability, and the art of balancing guidance with independence—lessons that translate directly into leading younger teams.”
A Shift Toward Meritocracy
“Gen Z values meritocracy over hierarchy. Companies that embrace authenticity, clarity, and speed in execution will thrive. Those that cling to old models risk losing their edge.”
The Power of Reverse Mentorship
“I love working with Gen Z. They’ve taught me more than I could have imagined through reverse mentorship. It’s a two-way street—I share wisdom; they share fresh insights.”
Finding Your Superpower
“Success starts with understanding your strengths. If you don’t know them yet, that’s fine—it’s a process. Focus on gaining skills and developing your unique superpower.”
The Power of Community
“Surround yourself with a diverse community—different generations, experiences, and viewpoints. It makes life richer and challenges you to think beyond your natural boundaries.”
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Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Katie Curry
______________________
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.
6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 22, 2024 • 23min
#115 From Wall Street to What’s Next: Katie Curry on Risk and Reinvention
Katie Curry isn’t just fluent in the language of risk; she’s turned it into an art form.
From Bulgaria to Wall Street, from crunching derivatives to leading creatives, Katie’s journey is a masterclass in calculated reinvention. Whether managing teams of credit analysts, upskilling fresh graduates, or inspiring her kids to “witness the magic of spreadsheets” during COVID, Katie shows how resilience is more than just a buzzword—it’s a career superpower.
She dives into the delicate dance between logic and intuition, embracing curiosity and even a little magic along the way. For Katie, success isn’t about climbing a ladder—it’s about hiking trails, salsa dancing, and leading with humility while creating impact. With a passion for mentoring and a knack for turning failures into growth opportunities, Katie redefines leadership as a long game of learning, laughter, and post-traumatic growth.
This episode is packed with nuggets on pivoting with purpose, embracing risk, and, most importantly, making resilience look like a fine art. Whether you’re navigating Wall Street or your own career crossroads, Katie’s insights will leave you inspired (and maybe a little braver).
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Small Town Dreams to the Big Apple
“I grew up in a small town in Bulgaria during communism. My first big transformation was coming to the United States. Traveling through New York City’s financial district, I thought, ‘One day, I’d love to work here.’”
Risk as a Career Compass
“Risk is the theme of my career—understanding it, quantifying it, and mitigating it. But it’s also about taking risks and seizing opportunities.”
Mental Toughness Through Change
“Change can be nerve-wracking, but I’ve learned to approach it with excitement instead of fear. It’s like lifting weights—you don’t just maintain, you grow stronger to tackle even bigger challenges.”
The Joy of Discovery
“With age and experience, I’ve learned to pursue paths less mapped out, finding joy in the unknown and seeing reinvention as a journey of discovery.”
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Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Katie Curry
______________________
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.
6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 22, 2024 • 22min
#114 From Parliament to Parenthood: Tin Pei Ling On Balancing Change and Leadership
In this episode, Tin Pei Ling from Singapore unpacks her remarkable journey as a young parliamentarian, MBA graduate, and mother.
She shares how the three-stage change model—unfreeze, adapt, refreeze—became her blueprint for navigating personal and professional transitions. With candid reflections on balancing leadership and life, she highlights the trade-offs and support systems that made it all possible.
From advocating for women’s empowerment to tackling mental health and aging population challenges, Tin’s work embodies resilience and action. Drawing inspiration from Lee Kuan Yew’s leadership principles and her own belief in the power of regret as a driver for growth, she emphasizes the importance of stories, books, and meaningful connections in shaping a better future.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Three-Stage Change Model
“Change begins with unfreezing—understanding the need and motivation to move forward. But it’s in the second stage, where you think like a social psychologist, that you navigate the hardest part: adapting yourself and your environment. And finally, in refreezing, you solidify the new behaviors and build a foundation for sustainable growth.”
The Power of an MBA Journey
“Pursuing an MBA at a young age gave me a platform to learn from peers with diverse experiences. It wasn’t just the coursework, but the exposure to different perspectives that built the momentum for lifelong learning and growth.”
Advocating for Women’s Aspirations
“Balancing multiple roles isn’t easy, especially for women. My journey as a working mother has inspired me to advocate for better support systems, so women can pursue their dreams without sacrificing their personal or professional growth.”
Balancing Leadership and Motherhood
“There’s no such thing as perfect balance—there are always trade-offs. As a mother, an elected member of parliament, and a full-time professional, I’ve faced moments of guilt, like missing my son’s rapid growth during a general election. But with an ecosystem of support, I’ve managed to fulfill my roles and give back to my community.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Tin Pei Ling
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--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.
6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 20, 2024 • 40min
#113 Connecting the Dots: Ian Myers on Finding Brilliant Global Talent for America
In this episode, I chat with Ian Myers, founder and CEO of Oceans, a talent agency bridging skilled professionals in Sri Lanka with U.S. companies.
Ian’s impressive journey includes scaling his business from zero to $10 million in under two years, but that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
A fellow Tintin enthusiast, Ian’s career has been an adventure in itself—spanning the U.S., Japan, literature, banking, venture capital, entrepreneurship, and gaming. His mantra? Follow your gut, embrace experiences, adapt, and keep moving forward.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Why Tintin Beats Tech Titans: Ian’s Unconventional Role Model
“My role model is Tintin. He’s always up for an adventure, exploring new places, and embracing different cultures. That’s the kind of life I want to live.”
Zen and the Art of Leadership: How Buddhism Shaped My Approach to Chaos
“Buddhism has a lot of excellent teachings that are applicable to running a business… It’s at its core, a method of grounding yourself through honesty in your reality and the potential of everything around you.”
Comparison Anxiety: Why Scrolling LinkedIn Might Be Ruining Your Life
“I talk to young people today, and they’re always comparing themselves. They’ll say, ‘Oh, this person who went to my college is now a vice president. My life is ruined.’ I’ve never really worried about my career; I just follow what’s interesting.”
Experiencing Ageism Across Cultures: From Japan to CEO at 26
“In Japan, age almost becomes the most important thing about you—your track record and success play a much smaller role. That was something I couldn’t personally tolerate.”
Skeptical by Nature: Why Ian Questions AI Hype
“The technology is impressive and important, but like most great innovations, the adoption curve will likely be much longer than people expect. If you look back at tech predictions, the timeline for changing the world is almost always too short.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Ian Myers
______________________
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.
6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 19, 2024 • 30min
#112 When Loyalty Meets Layoffs: Benedikt Oehmen’s Mission to Guide Others Through Career Challenges – Part One
Part One.
Layoffs and corporate shake-ups seem to be the norm these days, and Benedikt Oehmen has lived through it. After 17 years at Blizzard, known for its iconic gaming creations, he faced the unexpected reality of layoffs. While his time with Blizzard was largely rewarding, the ending was a difficult transition. Today, Benedikt is using his experience to support others in similar situations, sharing practical advice and his “Big Three” strategies from his book to help people overcome setbacks and thrive again.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Physicist to Gamer at Blizzard
From 17 Years of Loyalty to Facing Layoffs: When Blizzard Prioritized Profit Over People
“I started with Blizzard in 2005, and by 2018, after 13 years, the focus had shifted from creating epic experiences for gamers to just making more money.”
Breaking Free from the Corporate Overlord: Coaching Passionate Geeks on Their Own Terms
“Bound to a corporate overlord who tells me what to do and where my priorities are. And all my efforts basically go towards making rich people even richer in a sense."
From Panic to Possibility: How to Flip Career Transitions into Exciting New Opportunities
Learning in Disguise: How the “Big Three” Turns Mistakes into Milestones
“Being kind to me is all about self-acceptance, embracing the good things in our life and not looking at what we think we are missing.”
Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Benedikt Oehmen
______________________
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.
6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 19, 2024 • 37min
#111 Collin Plume: Navigating Life Transitions with People-First Financial Planning – Part Two
Part Two.
Once upon a time in LA, I worked at TCW Asset Management, managing billion-dollar bond funds with Jeffrey Gundlach, the “Bond King.” Today, I’m talking with someone who takes a different investment route—Collin Plume, an expert in precious metals.
This conversation isn’t about selling gold; it’s about tackling real-life challenges like family finance, retirement planning, and raising financially savvy kids. If you’re navigating any of these areas, Collin’s insights and inspiring journey will give you plenty to think about.
Part 2 of a 2-part series on Collin’s people-first approach to building financial security.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Gold, Real Estate, and Learning New Tricks: Why Diversifying is the New Smart
“Be willing to learn about a new investment or a new strategy every year, whether you decide to do it or not. But I think being willing to learn about it is important. It will help you and it’ll keep you sharp.”
Beware of Finfluencer Hype: Not Everything That Shines Is Gold
“Too often, people take influencers at face value, believing that the most engaging video equals the best advice. In reality, it’s important to fact-check and do your own research because many influencers are just paid promoters, not experts.”
Do Your Research: Don’t Let Algorithms Make Your Financial Decisions
“Algorithms don’t care if the advice is good; they only care if the content is appealing. So when it comes to financial decisions, it’s on you to dig deeper, check multiple sources, and make sure the influencers you follow are legit.”
The Real Cost of Reckless Spending: Teaching Financial Discipline to the Next Generation
“As a family, we prioritize experiences like travel and education over material goods. I’ve shown my children the gold and silver I’ve set aside for them and explained how these assets will be worth something significant in the future. Whether they want to start a business or pay for college, these investments will be there for them."
“I make sure my kids know that money isn’t something to be taken lightly. Whether it’s explaining mortgages to my 8-year-old or discussing the importance of not being wasteful with their toys, they need to understand that everything has a cost. I often use examples like Disneyland—where you can easily spend thousands in just a few days."
Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Collin Plume
______________________
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.
6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 18, 2024 • 33min
#110 Collin Plume: Navigating Life Transitions with People-First Financial Planning – Part One
Part One.
Once upon a time in LA, I worked at TCW Asset Management, managing billion-dollar bond funds with Jeffrey Gundlach, the “Bond King.” Today, I’m talking with someone who takes a different investment route—Collin Plume, an expert in precious metals.
This conversation isn’t about selling gold; it’s about tackling real-life challenges like family finance, retirement planning, and raising financially savvy kids. If you’re navigating any of these areas, Collin’s insights and inspiring journey will give you plenty to think about.
Part 1 of a 2-part series on Collin’s people-first approach to building financial security.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Childhood Coin Collector to Precious Metals Expert: How Silver Sparked a Lifelong Passion
“I received silver coins as a child, and even though they were worth just 25 cents on the surface, I learned they were actually worth much more. That stuck with me and led me to see gold and silver as overlooked assets.”
Noble Gold: The Three Careers That Made It Happen
“Insurance taught me customer service. Real estate taught me employee loyalty. And precious metals? That taught me marketing. Together, those experiences became the foundation for Noble Gold.”
It’s All About the People: Why Noble Gold Invests in Human, Not Just AI
“I realized early on that it’s not about what you’re selling—it’s about the people. Everything we do at Noble Gold is focused on creating the best possible human experience. While other companies are going all-in on AI, we’ve hired actual people to build relationships.”
Gold Bars Under the Mattress: Why Some Investors Want to Feel Their Wealth
“As funny as it sounds, some people might still stash their gold under the bed. It’s all about having control—physical, tangible control over your investments.”
Gold to the Rescue: Beating Inflation and Outpacing Bank Returns
“In a time of soaring inflation, 4% returns in the bank aren’t enough. Gold, up 27%, is proving to be a more reliable way to keep up with the rising cost of living.”
Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Collin Plume
______________________
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.
6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 18, 2024 • 27min
#109 Ral West: From Sky-High Ambitions to Championing Entrepreneurial Freedom
Ral West is one of those people whose story stays with you. Over four decades as an entrepreneur, she’s seen it all.
In her mid-twenties, she took the plunge and started her first business. That bold move led to running a charter air service between Alaska and Hawaii for 25 years, flying wide-body jets with her husband. Selling it to Alaska Airlines was a career highlight—but far from the finale.
Since then, she’s owned small cruise ships, invested in real estate, and continued building her legacy.
Now, Ral dedicates her time to helping other entrepreneurs achieve what she has: balancing business success with a fulfilling life. Her journey is real, raw, and packed with lessons for dreamers everywhere.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Challenging Generational Norms
“Early in my career, working for my father, I hit the glass ceiling. He came from a different generation, and his views were, let’s say, a bit old-fashioned. But I decided, ‘Thanks, Dad—I’ll take it from here.’ And I broke away to chart my own path.”
Juggling Act: The Exhausting Middle Years
“Between 35 and 55, I was stretched thin—running a business, raising young kids, volunteering. Sleep felt like a luxury. My health suffered, my marriage struggled, and I couldn’t do it all.”
The Breakthrough: Building Systems and Letting Go
“I learned the hard way that trying to do everything myself wasn’t sustainable. I created systems, implemented processes, and built a team I could trust. Using metrics and data-driven management, I structured my business so it could run smoothly—whether I was there or not.”
The Slow Burn of Transformation
“Building systems, processes, and a reliable team didn’t happen overnight. It was years in the making. I started small—reading books like The E-Myth by Michael Gerber, going back to college, and studying with mentors like Robert Kiyosaki. Each step added a piece to the puzzle.”
Bite-Sized Delegation: Starting Small
“You don’t need massive financial success to start delegating. It starts with breaking down your daily tasks into bite-sized pieces and identifying what you can transfer to someone else.”
Turning Intuition Into Systems
“One of my toughest challenges was documenting decision-making processes—like when to increase advertising spend. It took weeks of introspection and trial and error before I realized I was relying on sales trends over a three-day period. Once I had clarity, I turned it into a system my team could follow, even when I wasn’t there.”
Creating Culture: Embodying Values and Principles
“It wasn’t just about systems and metrics; it was about building a team that shared my values. From customer service to feedback collection, we worked hard to create a culture that prioritized our principles.”
_________________________
Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Ral West
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.
6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 17, 2024 • 25min
#108 Athena Brownson: Rebuilding Life and Mindset After an 8-Year Lyme Disease Journey — Part Two
Part Two.
At the height of her real estate career, Athena Brownson’s life was derailed by Lyme disease. For eight years, she’s faced chronic pain and intensive treatments, reshaping every part of her world. As Athena puts it, “If life didn’t give us adversity and challenges…”
Yesterday, she recounted the early days of her diagnosis, the fight to survive, and the harsh realities of living with this poorly understood condition. Today, in Part 2, Athena will reveal how she turned survival into thriving and rebuilt her career on her own terms.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Retraining the Brain
“Pain puts the brain in fight-or-flight mode, and it can get stuck there. So it’s on us to train our minds to tell our bodies we’re okay, to push through and find relief.”
The Power of a Routine
“For me, routines are huge. My toolkit includes morning and evening rituals – breathwork, meditation, journaling, writing affirmations. I remind myself every day: I am healthy. I am healing. My body can get through this.”
The Art of Delegation
“Delegation isn’t just about getting things off your plate; it’s about giving others a chance to shine. My illness showed me I can’t do everything, nor should I. Letting go allows others to thrive, and it’s empowering to see them do what they love.”
Building My Tribe
“Finding the right people was a decade-long journey, but now I have a team around me who would do anything for me. They’re not just coworkers; they’re my support system, my tribe. I know they’re here for me, health and all, and I wouldn’t be where I am without them.”
The Power of Pen and Paper
“Writing by hand does something special. Seeing the words you put down lets them sink in, letting you visualize and internalize them in a unique way.”
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