

Chief Change Officer
Vince Chan
What’s Stopping You from Outgrowing Yourself?
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Chief Change Officer isn’t just another podcast. It ranks in the Top 3% globally, hit #1 in Careers (US), and cracked the Top 10 in Business (US)—because it offers what others don’t: expansive human intelligence, shared by the world’s most extraordinary thinkers and doers.
This is the space for transformation gurus, bold hearts, black sheep, and unsung visionaries. We go beyond digitized tips and AI-smooth talk. Here, you get real, time-tested, experience-driven wisdom—the kind that blends logic and love, art and science, hindsight and foresight.
For me, this show marks career transition #18. Across 17 transitions, I’ve been mentored by global changemakers who helped me emerge stronger and freer. Now, I’m passing that power forward—through raw, unfiltered conversations with extraordinary people across cultures, industries, and identities.
If you’re a growth progressive, a black horse, a visionary underdog, or someone boldly rewriting the rules—you’re already one of us. Because you are the Chief Change Officer.
Our mission?
To help you become wiser in action, clearer in thought, and more ambitious in motion—so you can outgrow yourself and unlock outcomes beyond imagination or calculation.
A better you is already unfolding.
130,000+ followers are outgrowing.
Join them on LinkedIn, Apple, Spotify, and YouTube @chiefchangeofficer.
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Chief Change Officer isn’t just another podcast. It ranks in the Top 3% globally, hit #1 in Careers (US), and cracked the Top 10 in Business (US)—because it offers what others don’t: expansive human intelligence, shared by the world’s most extraordinary thinkers and doers.
This is the space for transformation gurus, bold hearts, black sheep, and unsung visionaries. We go beyond digitized tips and AI-smooth talk. Here, you get real, time-tested, experience-driven wisdom—the kind that blends logic and love, art and science, hindsight and foresight.
For me, this show marks career transition #18. Across 17 transitions, I’ve been mentored by global changemakers who helped me emerge stronger and freer. Now, I’m passing that power forward—through raw, unfiltered conversations with extraordinary people across cultures, industries, and identities.
If you’re a growth progressive, a black horse, a visionary underdog, or someone boldly rewriting the rules—you’re already one of us. Because you are the Chief Change Officer.
Our mission?
To help you become wiser in action, clearer in thought, and more ambitious in motion—so you can outgrow yourself and unlock outcomes beyond imagination or calculation.
A better you is already unfolding.
130,000+ followers are outgrowing.
Join them on LinkedIn, Apple, Spotify, and YouTube @chiefchangeofficer.
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Apr 10, 2025 • 30min
#287 Richard H. Carson: The 39-Step Playbook for Change That Doesn’t Collapse — Part One
Richard Carson’s career didn’t unfold by design—it unfolded by curiosity. From planning cities to fixing broken systems, he’s never been afraid to say, “This isn’t working—let’s figure out why.” In Part 1, he shares how a job he hated, a grocery store run, and one very weird time-tracking system helped shape his unconventional path to becoming a change consultant.Key Highlights of Our Interview:From Archaeology to Urban Planning“I thought I wanted to dig things up. Turns out, I just liked solving puzzles.” How he traded bones for blueprints.What They Say Isn’t the Real Problem“The issue they give you is rarely the one they have.” Why client work is part consulting, part detective work.The Grocery Store Test“If you can’t explain your plan in the produce aisle, it’s too complicated.” What small-town planning taught him about communication.The Micromanagement Disaster“They were tracking tasks every 15 minutes. People were losing their minds.” The worst system he ever saw—and why it failed.Becoming a Consultant by Accident“I hired consultants. They impressed me. So I quit and joined them.” When one audit changed his career._______________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Richard H. Carson
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Apr 9, 2025 • 42min
#286 Michael Levitt: Ditch the Phone, Reclaim Your Sanity
Michael Levitt nearly lost everything to burnout—a heart attack, job loss, foreclosure, and total collapse. But what brought him back wasn’t a digital detox retreat—it was Gen X wisdom: learning to reset without relying on tech. As the founder of the Breakfast Leadership Network and burnout consultant to global execs, Michael now teaches others how to rebuild. In this episode, he explains why recovery starts with sleep, why analog habits like ditching your smartphone alarm matter, and why burnout is a system failure—not a personal flaw. For Gen Xers who straddle both worlds, this is a call to reclaim the best of both—and redesign a life that actually works.>>The Burnout Spiral That Changed Everything“In one year, I lost my job, my home, my car—and nearly my life.”Michael shares the full collapse that led him from healthcare executive to burnout survivor. But the real story is how he rebuilt—on his own terms.>>Gen X Wisdom: Unplug to Repair“Buy an alarm clock. Get your phone out of your bedroom.”Raised in the analog world, Michael draws on old-school logic to fix new-world problems. The simplest habit—sleep—might be your strongest defense.>>Burnout Isn’t Personal—It’s Structural“If your workplace is broken, no amount of yoga will save you.”Michael breaks down how leaders need to stop treating burnout as an individual issue—and start fixing the systems that cause it.>>Why the C-Suite Stays Silent“Some of my clients are CEOs. You’ll never hear their names.”Michael shares why the stigma around burnout runs deepest at the top—and how privacy, trust, and discretion are part of real recovery.>>You Don’t Need a New Life—Just a New Setup“Most people don’t need reinvention. They just need smarter defaults.”With tools from CBT and NLP, Michael explains how changing your inner programming can help you regain control—without blowing everything up._________________________Connect with Us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Michael Levitt
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Apr 9, 2025 • 44min
#285 Steve Monaghan: The Advantage of Age in the Age of AI
Steve Monaghan flips the script on innovation culture: experience isn’t a relic—it’s a strategic edge. As General Partner at FinMir.ai, Limited Partner at True Global Ventures, Independent Non-Executive Director at RAK Bank, and former Chief Digital Officer at both AIA and DBS Bank, Steve brings a cross-industry view forged through decades of deep transformation. From aviation to fintech to AI, he shows how age fuels better questions, sharper pattern recognition, and global insight in a world obsessed with novelty. Whether he’s building Asia’s first unicorn or designing systems that could restructure entire economies, Steve makes one thing clear: for Gen Xers tired of being underestimated, age isn’t a liability—it’s leverage.>>Built to Learn, Not to Fit“I wasn’t hired for my experience. I was hired for the questions I knew how to ask.”Steve’s journey—from pilot to pricing guru to product architect—was never about titles. It was about learning faster than the system could teach him.>>From N-O to K-N-O-W“People don’t fear change. They fear not understanding it.”Steve shares his framework for flipping resistance into insight. At DBS, it became a model: learning, venturing, capital. The goal? Turn skeptics into innovators.>>Legacy Is Not a Headline“This isn’t my next startup. It’s my swing-for-the-fences play.”Steve’s current project could restructure economies by eliminating capital inefficiencies in payroll and supply chains. It’s big, bold—and designed to help the people most hurt by broken systems.>>The Advantage of Age in the Age of AI“Older workers know how to ask better questions. That’s the advantage.”Forget the ageist myth. Steve explains why mature employees are becoming AI’s secret weapon—and why experience, not just coding, is the multiplier.>>Mental Health Is Not a Risk Factor—It’s a Design Factor“You can’t build resilient companies without resilient founders.”As an investor, Steve supports founders with integrity, grit, and humility. That includes stepping back when needed—and being asked, not judged, for how you feel._________________________Connect with Us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Steve Monaghan
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Apr 9, 2025 • 25min
#284 Katie Curry: Mentoring Gen Z Without Losing Your Gen X Soul
In Part 2 of our conversation, Katie Curry flips the script—from navigating her own reinvention to mentoring the next generation through theirs. As a Gen X leader, she draws from both parenting and management to offer real tools for leading Gen Z with clarity, empathy, and pace. Katie doesn’t romanticize change—she makes it strategic. From book recs to career advice to community wisdom, this episode is a field guide for anyone navigating a multigenerational workplace—and still trying to grow on their own terms.>>Gen Z Doesn’t Want Hierarchy—They Want Honesty“We need to pick up the pace—and tell the truth.”Katie breaks down what Gen Z really wants at work: clarity, fairness, and feedback that isn’t sugarcoated. She shares how leaders must shift—fast—or get left behind.>>The Parenting Playbook That Works at Work“I don’t lead with answers. I lead with questions.”As a mom and a manager, Katie shares the same core strategy: focus, simplicity, humility, and curiosity. No, you don’t have to have all the answers. Yes, you still have to listen.>>Advice for the Anxious Overachiever“Find your superpower. Build the skill. Then learn how to pivot.”Katie offers Gen Z three rules for thriving in chaos: develop what makes you valuable, build a true community, and treat change as a skill—not a flinch.>>The Real Power of Community“Community isn’t a contact list. It’s people who remember you 20 years later.”Katie and Vince reflect on what lasting community really means—and how Gen X mastered long-haul relationships before the age of “likes.”>>The Art of Learning Without Losing Yourself“I consume books, podcasts, summaries—but reflection is where it all clicks.”Katie shares her three pillars of learning: exposure, synthesis, and solitude. She explains why quiet time is not indulgent—it’s essential._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Katie Curry
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Apr 8, 2025 • 22min
#283 Katie Curry: Risk by Training, Reinvention by Choice
Katie Curry doesn’t follow a path—she redraws the map. In this first of a two-part conversation, we explore her journey from communist Bulgaria to the heart of Wall Street, from technical risk roles to creative leadership. Katie shares how she builds mental toughness, adapts across industries, and leads Gen Z with humor and humility. Through it all, she reminds us that reinvention isn’t something you do once—it’s a muscle you build. For Gen Xers who know how to change ambitiously, this is reinvention with purpose, not panic.>>From Bulgaria to the Big Apple“On that bus in Manhattan, I said—I want to work here one day.”Katie’s first reinvention wasn’t a job—it was a total life shift. Growing up in a small town under communism, she shares how dreaming big and thinking globally reshaped her trajectory.>>Credit, Creativity, and Everything in Between“I’ve led analysts, operators, and creatives. You can’t lead them the same way.”Katie breaks down how she adapted her leadership style across radically different teams—from rating derivatives to managing editors—and what each one taught her about people and power.>>Risk Isn’t a Concept—It’s a Practice“Some of my biggest breakthroughs came from the biggest pivots.”With a career built around risk—from Citi to S&P to insurance tech—Katie reveals how she balances data and gut instinct, logic and psychology, and why you should never expect certainty before you leap.>>Fail Fast, Learn Hard“If you’ve never failed, you’re playing too safe.”Katie redefines success through her personal KPIs: energy, impact, relationships, and learning. And she makes a strong case for post-traumatic growth—yes, even at work.>>Leadership with Presence and Punch“During COVID, my kids watched me lead from our kitchen table. That was my real resume.”Whether she’s coaching a Gen Z team or raising one at home, Katie leads with clarity, care, and curiosity—and she’s not afraid to be both the strategist and the student._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Katie Curry
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Apr 8, 2025 • 29min
#282 Impact Over Egos, Substance Over Soundbites: Josh Geballe’s Real Playbook
Forget hot takes and hustle porn—Josh Geballe has built a career on real outcomes, not optics. As a former IBM exec, startup CEO, crisis-tested public leader, and now head of Yale Ventures, he’s navigated every kind of system—and rewired more than a few. In this episode, Josh breaks down what it takes to lead without ego, make career moves without a roadmap, and support innovation without turning it into performance. For Gen Xers designing careers that are built, not branded, this is substance over soundbites in its purest form.>>Career Strategy ≠ Life Strategy“I never chased titles. I chased impact—and the challenge that came with it.”From IBM to a 16-person startup, Josh explains why logic alone doesn’t drive bold moves—and how gut instinct often knows best.>>Public Sector, Private Resolve“Nothing in my tech career prepared me for a global pandemic—but it helped me lead through one.”As Connecticut’s COO, Josh didn’t just manage state operations—he ran its COVID response. He reflects on balancing fear, facts, and forward motion in an impossible time.>>Yale Ventures: Innovation Without the Ego“PhDs know how to explain ideas to journals. I help them pitch to the real world.”Now leading Yale Ventures, Josh shares how he mentors faculty and students to translate research into startups—and how real innovation starts with learning to listen.>>Startup Lessons That Actually Scale“Startups taught me how to stretch every dollar. Government taught me how to stretch every second.”Josh draws on lessons from his software CEO days to modernize systems at scale—without turning leadership into theater.>>Advice for the Impatient Ambitious“Your first job? Work for someone you want to become.”Josh offers Gen X-flavored guidance to early-career MBAs: skip the shiny job titles and find mentors who challenge how you think, not just what you do.____________________Connect with Us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Josh Geballe
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Apr 8, 2025 • 42min
#281 Irina Filippova: Courage Is the Career Plan
Irina Filippova is not here to perform change—she’s here to live it. From her early career as a Russian diplomat to her current role as COO of a BlackRock-backed energy transition venture, Irina has made a habit of rewriting the rules instead of following them. In this episode, she shares what it really means to be a self-starter in a world obsessed with shortcuts, how real leaders use courage to stay in integrity, and why the most meaningful change begins with inner work. For anyone who’s tired of career templates and startup posturing, Irina offers something better: a real-time masterclass in designing a life and legacy on your own terms.>>Built for Change—Literally“I’ve never inherited a job. Every role, I created from scratch.”Irina walks us through her journey from UN think tanks to BP’s rebrand to leading energy transition from the ground up—each step a reinvention by design.>>Courage ≠ Chaos“Leadership is courage. And courage means staying in integrity.”Forget the bravado. Irina breaks down why real courage isn’t about reckless risk-taking—it’s about showing up, following through, and walking away when the values don’t align.>>The Myth of the Unicorn“We glorify unicorns—and then wonder why leaders burn out.”Irina calls out the toxic myths in startup culture and shares a grounded vision for building businesses that last longer than a product cycle.>>Change Starts Inside“I thought I needed to change the world. Turns out, I needed to change myself first.”Before she could consult CEOs, Irina had to rewire her own beliefs—thanks to deep inner work at the Jung Institute in Zurich. This is change leadership with a soul.>>Electrifying a New Industry“We provide the electric fuel. You focus on logistics. Simple.”Now COO of Electrata, Irina explains her company’s mission to make clean energy logistics seamless for fleets—so the energy transition doesn’t get stuck in jargon or infrastructure nightmares._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Irina Filippova
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Apr 8, 2025 • 42min
#280 Greg Morley, Author of Bond: Building Belonging in the Age of Burnout
This episode dives into Bond, the new book by Greg Morley—former global DEI head at Moët Hennessy and veteran HR leader at Disney and Hasbro. Vince and Greg unpack the emotional undercurrent of modern work—how a broken culture can push people into burnout and how small moments of recognition can pull them back. With global insight and Gen X clarity, Greg shares what real inclusion looks like on the ground, from Asia to Europe to the U.S. If you’re ready to lead with depth, not just diversity metrics, this conversation is your blueprint.>>When Belonging Breaks“There’s a crisis of loneliness at work—and it’s costing us more than we know.”Greg shares why he wrote Bond and how companies miss the mark when they treat inclusion as a buzzword instead of a survival strategy.>>From Burnout to Breakthrough“Once that sense of belonging disappeared, I spiraled into burnout—and then depression.”Vince opens up about his own career-breaking experience with mental illness, triggering a candid dialogue about what happens when work becomes unsafe, and how fragile even top performers can be without support.>>Inclusion Starts With the Conductor“Inclusion isn’t HR’s job—it’s everyone’s job. Especially leaders.”Greg introduces the five “keys” from his book, including why leadership visibility, emotional presence, and shared stories are more powerful than any KPI.>>The Myth of a Global Template“You can’t cut and paste DEI from New York to Hong Kong.”Drawing from his years across Asia, the U.S., and Europe, Greg explains why inclusive cultures must start with listening, not imposing—especially in diverse regions like Asia where family and collective identity take center stage.>>Beyond the Culture Wars“Most people want to feel seen. That’s not woke—it’s human.”Greg offers a grounded perspective on how to lead through today’s politicized climate without losing sight of what DEI is really about: creating space for people to contribute, grow, and thrive._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Greg Morley
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Apr 8, 2025 • 31min
#279 Greg Morley: Built, Not Bought—The Gen X Playbook for Real Inclusion
Greg Morley isn’t reinventing himself at midlife—he’s been reinventing all along. As a Gen X leader who’s shaped HR and DEI strategy at Disney, Hasbro, and Moët Hennessy, Greg represents the quiet force of a generation that never needed to go viral to make an impact.>>From Complaint Calls to Corporate Change“80% of the calls were complaints. That’s how I learned to listen—fast.”Greg started in the trenches and never forgot what real work feels like. That early frontline experience now shapes how he has led global people strategies with heart and head.>>Gen X Leaders Don’t Wait for Playbooks—They Write Them“I didn’t plan to be in HR. I planned to understand people.”Whether designing HR strategy at Hasbro or rewriting DEI systems at Moët Hennessy, Greg leads with insight, not instruction manuals. >>Diversity Without the Optics“Rewiring beats rebranding—every time.”Greg breaks down how he rebuilt DEI from the inside out, ditching the optics for honest structures, tough conversations, and measurable change.>>Global Insight, Local Action“Diversity in Cognac, France doesn’t look like diversity in New York. That’s the point.”From Paris to Hong Kong, Greg’s work proves that inclusion isn’t a one-size-fits-all program. It’s a flexible framework built on understanding where you are—and who you’re there for.>>Bond: The Book That Calls BS on Performative Belonging“People don’t want politics. They want to be seen, heard, and valued.”In his new book Bond, Greg cuts through the noise and reframes inclusion as something human—not hype. This isn’t theory. It’s the Gen X guide to building meaningful connection in work and life._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Greg Morley
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Apr 6, 2025 • 28min
#278 Helen Hanison: Outgrowing the Career Everyone Else Envies — Part Two
So you’ve figured out your career isn’t working—now what? In Part Two, Helen brings in the big guns: her framework for getting unstuck, redesigning with purpose, and navigating the messy middle of change.We unpack the real reasons people stay stuck, why perseverance isn’t always a virtue, and how to redesign a career that fits who you are now—not who you were five years ago. It’s part psychology, part strategy, and 100% relatable.Key Highlights of Our Interview:Three Acts of Career Redesign“You cannot skip alignment. That’s the inner work—and it’s where most people rush or skip entirely.”Helen breaks down the phases of Alignment, Redesign, and Transformation—and why each one matters.Why Strengths Aren’t Enough“If you only build around your strengths, you’re just building on sand.”Strengths are great—but without alignment, they won’t carry you through a real change.Hope Maps and the Myth of the Linear Path“We confuse a hard day with the wrong direction. That’s where Hope Mapping comes in.”How visualizing obstacles in advance helps you stick to the right path, not bail on it too soon.Letting Go of the Career Lie“We’ve been told perseverance is always noble—but sometimes, quitting is the smarter move.”A fresh take on what it really means to be “resilient” in your career.________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Helen HanisonHelen's website: https://www.helenhanison.com
--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.