Chief Change Officer

Edward J. van Luinen, Ed.D. and Tricia Cerrone didn’t build a personal brand around collaboration—they lived one. In this first of a two-part series, they reflect on the working relationship that began at Disney and slowly evolved into a business, a book, and a model for how Gen X builds enduring trust. Forget quick team-building hacks and shallow LinkedIn takes—this is collaboration done the Gen X way: built slowly, refined over time, and grounded in shared values. If you’re tired of performative partnerships and want to know what staying power really looks like, this is your episode.>>The Relationship That Didn’t Expire“Most work relationships fade. This one evolved.”Edward and Tricia share how a three-year collaboration at Disney grew into a decade of trust, business, and a co-authored book on leadership.>>No Hierarchy, No Ego“We weren’t assigned roles—we built the rules together.”They reflect on leading a global initiative without clear power dynamics, and how mutual respect became the real structure.>>The First Coffee Was the Turning Point“That coffee wasn’t about a project—it was about character.”Tricia recalls how her initial skepticism melted when Edward showed up with presence, empathy, and zero pretense.>>Why It Worked: Five Behaviors, One Blueprint“We didn’t write the book first—we lived it.”They walk through five consistent behaviors—generosity, gratitude, grace, curiosity, and accountability—that made their team the one others wanted to be on.>>Tech Can’t Fake Trust“You can’t app your way into a good relationship.”Edward and Tricia challenge today’s obsession with productivity tools, arguing that collaboration starts with who you are—not what you use._____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guests: Tricia Cerrone and Edward J. Van Luinen  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

John Gates has been on the inside of more salary negotiations than most of us will see in a lifetime—over 75,000 offers across industries and levels. From a scrappy upbringing in Oregon to global recruiting roles at Capital One and beyond, John learned how the game works. And now, he’s helping jobseekers stop lowballing themselves and start playing smarter. In this episode, he debunks the biggest salary myths, shares the scripts that work, and explains why salary negotiation starts long before the offer lands. For Gen Xers navigating job transitions or prepping for the next big move, this episode is both a wake-up call and a negotiation playbook.>>From Pizza Delivery to Pay Negotiation Powerhouse“I worked 30 hours a week at Domino’s and crammed two degrees into two and a half years.”John shares how a scrappy start built the systems thinking and urgency that now powers his work with jobseekers and executives alike.>>Recruiter, Interrupted“I was laid off before my first job even started.”He reflects on the early career shock that forced him into recruiting by accident—and the surprising skills he found along the way.>>The Capital One Lightbulb Moment“I got the offer, the bonus, the relocation bump—and still felt I’d left money on the table.”That one regret launched his obsession: learning how recruiters really build offers and how much most candidates are missing out on.>>The Salary Lies That Get Recycled on LinkedIn“Know your worth and demand it? That’s how you get ghosted.”John unpacks the worst advice online and explains why collaboration—not confrontation—is the smarter way to negotiate.>>When to Talk Money (and What to Say)“Most people wait until the offer. By then, it’s too late for the Mercedes—you’re getting the Beetle.”He reveals the step-by-step strategy that builds leverage from the first click, not the final call._____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: John Gates  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jason Bloomfield didn’t learn change in an MBA program—he learned it through real life. As a teenager, he became the de facto head of household. Now, as Global Head of People Change and Experience Design at Ericsson, he leads transformation across 180 countries. In this episode, Jason shares how active listening, design thinking, and human-first systems have helped him move organizations from dysfunction to alignment. From M&A integrations to HR tech failures, from -83 NPS scores to user-designed wins, his work proves one thing: change only sticks when it’s built with—not for—the people it’s meant to serve. For Gen Xers who’ve lived through chaos and are now leading through it, this episode is a blueprint in action.>>From Family Collapse to First Acquisition“I was the only one with income. So I had to figure it out.”Jason opens up about his early years, navigating a broken home while building stability from scratch—and how that experience shaped his instincts in business.>>Career by Constraint“They asked if I’d move to 1 Madison Avenue. I said yes—and just kept saying yes.”From wiring cables to managing a global acquisition across 13 countries, Jason shares how constraints—and curiosity—turned into growth and global opportunity.>>Change Starts with Listening“Active listening sends a signal: you care.”Jason breaks down why empathy is not a soft skill—it’s the hardest one. Especially when leading transformation across 100,000 employees and 180 countries.>>Turning a -83 NPS into a Shared Win“The tool was hated. But people started feeling heard.”He recounts how a globally despised HR tool became usable—through co-creation, honesty, and building feedback loops that actually changed things.>>From Paper to Trust“They didn’t hate digital. They didn’t trust institutions.”Jason explains how assumptions kill adoption—and how design thinking and diverse input helped his teams shift deeply entrenched behaviors.______________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Jason Bloomfield  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the second half of her conversation, Erika Ayers Badan—CEO of Food52, former CEO of Barstool Sports, board leader, media powerhouse, and author of _No One Cares About Your Career_—lets us behind the curtain. From negotiating screen time as a kid to rewriting the rules as a high-profile executive, she reflects on how grit, autonomy, and unfiltered curiosity shaped everything—from her parenting to her management style. She shares why she no longer chases titles, what failure really teaches us, and why today’s “toxic culture” talk often needs more clarity than cancellation. For Gen Xers raising kids, leading teams, or just trying to keep their values intact in a noisy world, this episode is the deep breath you didn’t know you needed.>>The Original Streaming Negotiation“My brother and I shared one hour of TV a week. That’s how I learned to negotiate.”Erika reflects on the creative, disciplined upbringing that shaped her independence—and how it made her a better leader, dealmaker, and parent.>>Titles Are Overrated. Impact Isn’t.“I cared about titles in my 20s. Now I care about purview.”She explains why chasing titles is a trap—and why real career growth is measured in responsibility, resilience, and reach.>>Fail Always Mode“If you feel like you’re failing, it means you care—and you’re trying something new.”Erika breaks down why failure isn’t just tolerable—it’s necessary. And why she rewards effort over perfection every time.>>Culture > Buzzwords“I’m allergic to gossip, inertia, and pontificating.”From toxic culture to real collaboration, Erika shares her no-BS filter for building teams that do the work and actually like doing it.>>Gen Alpha, Gen X, and the Parenting Gap“I worry their advantages are actually disadvantages.”She gets honest about parenting kids in a hyper-stimulated world—and why she’s racing the clock to instill resilience before the clay hardens._____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Erika Ayers Badan  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Erika Ayers Badan isn’t here to polish the truth—she’s here to say it louder. In this first of a two-part series, the current CEO of Food52 and former CEO of Barstool Sports breaks down the raw realities behind her debut book, No One Cares About Your Career. From writing on commuter trains to fielding hundreds of workplace questions a week, Erika shares why her advice hits different—because it’s honest, hard-earned, and hyper-relevant for a Gen X audience still rewriting the rulebook. This isn’t a pep talk. It’s a reset.>>The Title That Says It All“It’s not just a title—it’s the truth.”Erika reveals how No One Cares About Your Career went from a casual comment to the book’s heartbeat—and why it resonates across industries, generations, and inboxes.>>When Creativity Gets Crushed“I went from running wild to daily reforecasts and regulatory meetings.”She opens up about the moment corporate structure smothered her spark—and how writing a book on the train became a lifeline back to creative energy.>>The Mid-Chapter Career Book“This isn’t for the lost or the legends. It’s for the people in the messy middle.”Erika explains who the book is for—and why it’s not another glossy manifesto or three-step self-help trick.>>The Five Things That Actually Matter at Work“Who you are. What you offer. How you show up. What you do with your time. And how much you care.”Forget the buzzwords. Erika distills 25 years of media, tech, and executive leadership into five brutally simple career rules.>>Mentoring at Scale“I get 200 questions a week—and I try to answer every one.”She shares how social media became her advice desk, what Gen Z is most worried about, and why transparency—not perfection—is the new leadership currency._____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Erika Ayers Badan  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mark Bayer spent 20 years in the U.S. Congress shaping major policies and managing high-stakes communication for senior lawmakers. In Part Two, Mark gets practical—breaking down the actual tools and mindset shifts PhDs need to thrive in the private sector. From his 11 Keys to Translating Complexity (complexitymadeclear.com) to why metaphors matter more than models, he shows how scientists can go from overlooked to unforgettable. Plus, what AI can’t do—and why your human voice still matters more than ever.This one’s for anyone who’s been told their skills are “too academic.” Turns out, they’re your superpower—if you know how to use them.Key Highlights of Our Interview:The “11 Keys” Framework“Shakespeare said, brevity is the soul of wit. But it’s also the start of strategy.”Wake Words and Brain Wiring“Our brains tune into the unexpected. Use that to your advantage.”Crossing Cultures & Languages“Being bilingual helps you distill ideas—and respect your audience’s world.”The Real Meaning of Connection“You have to connect before you communicate. That’s not soft—it’s strategy.”AI Can’t Replicate Your Voice“AI pulls from old ideas. Your job is to bring something new, human, and surprising.”_____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Mark Bayer  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mark Bayer spent 20 years in the U.S. Congress shaping major policies and managing high-stakes communication for senior lawmakers. In Part One, he reflects on what those years taught him about messaging, persuasion, and why most PhDs—despite their brilliance—struggle to translate their value. From Capitol Hill to Harvard Medical School, Mark now helps scientists and researchers communicate like insiders.This episode is a masterclass in what PhDs get wrong—and what they already have right.Key Highlights of Our Interview:The First “R&D” Mix-up“I thought they were talking about research and development. But it was Republicans and Democrats.”The 8% Problem“Only 8% of PhDs stay in academia. But nearly all are trained as if that’s the only path.”Misunderstood Advantage“PhDs are analytical, resilient, focused—yet many don’t see those as selling points.”Beauty vs. Relevance“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Importance is in the eye of the stakeholders.”Your Message Has 10 Seconds“Lead with the punchline. Or your audience will drift.”Why Communication ≠ Dumping Data“Scientists want to show everything they know. But that’s not the job. The job is to answer the question.”_____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Mark Bayer  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From facing seven years in prison at 17 to leading soldiers in Afghanistan, Jevon Wooden’s story is more than a redemption arc—it’s about owning your power the moment you realize you’ve still got one.In Part 1, Jevon, the author of "Functional to Phenomenal" and "Own Your Kingdom", opens up about growing up in one of America’s poorest cities, learning to survive, and ultimately discovering his worth had nothing to do with money.Key Highlights of Our Interview:Veterans Day, Forever Changed“I watched six people die. A year later, my daughter was born on the same day.” When trauma and hope collide.From Pain to Purpose“That red flash in my nightmares? It stopped the day I forgave my father.” The invisible work behind healing.Coaching the “A-hole Executive”“He said, ‘I care—I just don’t know how to show it.’” Helping leaders reconnect with their team, and themselves.Empathy ≠ Weakness“It’s not about being soft—it’s about being smart.” Why emotional intelligence is the hardest and most essential leadership skill.Watch Your Patterns“Triggers tell the truth. Learn what sets you off—before it costs your team.” The self-awareness most leaders skip._____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Jevon Wooden  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From facing seven years in prison at 17 to leading soldiers in Afghanistan, Jevon Wooden’s story is more than a redemption arc—it’s about owning your power the moment you realize you’ve still got one.In Part 1, Jevon, the author of "Functional to Phenomenal" and "Own Your Kingdom", opens up about growing up in one of America’s poorest cities, learning to survive, and ultimately discovering his worth had nothing to do with money.Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Wrong Crowd, the Right Wake-Up Call“I wasn’t guilty that night, but I was heading there fast.” How one arrest changed everything.A Mother’s Sacrifice“She offered to put up her house to get me a lawyer.” The first lesson in love, empathy, and accountability.From Janitor to Army Leader“I worked two full-time jobs before choosing the military.” Why service gave him more than stability—it gave him purpose.Not Just Discipline, But Discovery“In the Army, I learned I was a leader—and I didn’t need rank to prove it.”The Value Shift“I realized value isn’t what you wear—it’s what you give.” How he redefined self-worth from the ground up._____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Jevon Wooden  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In Part 3 of this series, narrative strategist Chris Hare leaves us with a gift: the tools to take control of our own stories. Whether it’s envisioning your future in a quiet theater, asking loved ones for feedback through a meaningful 360, or identifying the patterns that shaped your past, Chris’s methods are built for reflection and action. This isn’t productivity advice or LinkedIn bait—it’s practical wisdom for designing a story you can live with. For Gen Xers rethinking legacy, reinvention, and what success actually looks like, this episode is a toolkit with a soul.>>The Movie Theater Exercise“What would your life movie look like if it played tomorrow in an empty theater?”Chris walks us through a powerful future-visioning tool: a quiet, internal exercise that helps you feel the trajectory of your life—and decide if it’s headed where you want.>>The Real 360“Ask people who love you: what’s my superpower?”Chris explains how to gather stories and values from people who know you best—not for a performance review, but for a pattern breakthrough.>>How One Story Sparked a LinkedIn Flood“A fighter pilot shared his lowest moment. Hundreds told him who he really was.”Chris shares how a client’s vulnerable storytelling post turned into a cascade of unseen feedback—proving that the stories we live often matter more than we realize.>>Inputs, Not Absolutes“Be careful—feedback reflects the version of you people saw, not who you’re becoming.”Chris and Vince dig into the risks of misaligned input, and why choosing a diverse, thoughtful, and intentional group for feedback is everything.>>Why Machines Can’t Replace Meaning“If AI read our transcript, it’d miss the one moment that mattered.”Chris explains why storytelling—and coaching—can’t be fully automated. Because the spark is often in the tone, the pause, the shift. And only humans catch that._____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Chris Hare  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.