
The Consumer Finance Podcast
The Consumer Finance Podcast provides reliable, insightful, and entertaining industry-specific content central to consumer finance services. Hosted by veteran Troutman Pepper Locke CFS Partner Chris Willis, this podcast features industry experts, insiders, and other Troutman Pepper Locke attorneys delivering easily digestible segments on a variety of topics.
Latest episodes

Jun 27, 2024 • 33min
Navigating Bank-Fintech Partnerships: Avoiding Common Pitfalls
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis discusses the complexities and potential pitfalls of bank-fintech partnerships. Joined by colleagues Alexandra Steinberg Barrage, Matthew Bornfreund, and Jesse Silverman, the conversation delves into the structure of banking-as-a-service (BaaS) relationships, regulatory pressures, and key friction points such as BSA/AML compliance and ledgering. The team offers practical solutions for both banks and fintechs to ensure successful collaborations, emphasizing the importance of clear roles, responsibilities, and robust compliance measures. This episode is essential listening for anyone involved in or considering a bank-fintech partnership.

Jun 20, 2024 • 28min
Revisiting Financial Institution Incentive Compensation Rules Under Dodd-Frank
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis delves into the renewed focus on incentive compensation by federal financial regulators. Joined by colleagues Sheri Adler and Jina Davidovich from the Employee Benefits and Executive Compensation group, the discussion centers on the implications of Section 956 of the Dodd-Frank Act. The episode explores the historical context, proposed rule changes, and the potential impact on financial institutions and their employees. Key topics include the scope of covered institutions, specific requirements for senior executives and significant risk-takers, and the governance and compliance obligations that may arise if the rules are enacted.

Jun 18, 2024 • 17min
Auto Finance – CFPB Circular Release
In this special episode, Brooke Conkle and Chris Capurso discuss a recently released circular from the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) on consumer contracts. They are joined by special guest Caleb Rosenberg, who provides insights into the potential impacts this "quietly released" circular may have on the auto finance industry. Caleb brings a wealth of experience, including assisting businesses with secured and unsecured loan agreements, retail installment sales contracts, credit card agreements, and alternative finance agreements. He also helps clients navigate regulatory inquiries, particularly those concerning the application of state law to alternative financing products. While this marks the final episode of our five-part series on auto finance issues, stay tuned for more content. Be sure to listen until the end for a BIG announcement!

Jun 13, 2024 • 19min
Meet Troutman Pepper's Bank Regulatory Team
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis introduces the firm's esteemed bank regulatory team. Featuring Kevin Petrasic, Matthew Bornfreund, Alexandra Barrage, and Helen Lee, the episode delves into the team's extensive experience in bank regulation, supervisory and enforcement matters, fintech, payments, and more. Each team member shares their unique background, including significant government and in-house experience, and discusses how their combined knowledge enhances Troutman Pepper's ability to comprehensively serve financial institution clients. The episode underscores the firm's strategic goal to be a one-stop shop for all financial services legal needs.

Jun 6, 2024 • 18min
Loan Securitization Trusts as Subject to CFPB's Enforcement Authority: The Implications of a Recent Court Decision Affirming Such Authority
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis is joined by partner Glen Trudel to discuss a recent appellate court decision affirming that a group of securitization trusts "engaged" in a known "consumer financial product or service", and therefore are subject as covered persons to the enforcement authority of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB). This decision could potentially expose similarly situated securitization trusts to the jurisdiction and enforcement authority of the CFPB. Chris and Glen discuss the court's rationale for the holding and delve into the implications of this ruling, including the potential for increased regulatory scrutiny and the need for trusts to ensure compliance with consumer laws relating to the loan assets they hold. They also discuss potential changes in the terms of future securitization documentation and the importance of due diligence and monitoring of service providers. The episode concludes with a discussion on the significance of this ruling in the legal landscape for securitization trusts and whole loan owners.

Jun 4, 2024 • 16min
Navigating Ancillary Products in Auto Finance
Join Troutman Pepper Partner Brooke Conkle and Associate Chris Capurso as they delve into the complexities of ancillary products in the auto finance industry. From GAP waivers to extended warranties, discover the latest regulatory developments and compliance challenges that are shaping the landscape for consumers, dealers, and auto finance companies.Our Auto Finance Special Series on The Consumer Finance Podcast will be exploring various facets of the auto finance industry, from regulatory changes and compliance challenges to market trends and future outlooks. This series is essential for anyone looking to stay ahead in the rapidly evolving world of auto finance. Subscribe to our podcast on your favorite platform to ensure you don't miss an episode!In case you missed it, listen to the previous episodes in this series:Auto Finance – The Holder RuleAuto Finance – The CFPB Complaints ReportNavigating the CFPB's Auto Finance Data Collection Initiative

May 30, 2024 • 18min
A Deep Dive into HUD's New Guidance on AI-Driven Targeted Advertising
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis is joined by Troutman Pepper Partner Lori Sommerfield to discuss the new guidance issued by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) on targeted advertising for housing and housing-related ads. The conversation delves into the implications of the guidance, which was motivated by HUD's original charge of discrimination against Facebook in 2019 and President Biden's 2023 Executive Order on the Safe, Secure, and Trustworthy Development and Use of AI. They explore how the guidance shifts the focus from disparate treatment to disparate impact, and the challenges advertisers and advertising platforms may face in complying with the new guidelines. The episode concludes with a discussion on the potential for regulatory overreach and the possibility of litigation.

May 23, 2024 • 20min
Imminent Shift: Preparing for the T+1 Settlement Impact on Equity-Based Compensation
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis is joined by Sheri Adler to discuss the implications of the upcoming change in securities law that shortens the settlement period for broker-dealer transactions from T+2 (two business days after the trade date) to T+1 (one business day after the trade date). This change, effective May 28, 2024, has significant implications for employers who offer equity-based compensation to their employees. Adler provides an overview of the history of the settlement cycle, the reasons behind the shift to T+1, and the impact on tax withholding obligations for equity awards. She also offers practical advice for companies to prepare for this change, including potential adjustments to the calculation of fair market value for withholding purposes.

May 21, 2024 • 16min
Auto Finance – The Holder Rule
Troutman Pepper attorneys Brooke Conkle and Chris Capurso discuss the Federal Trade Commission's "Holder Rule" in the third of five special episodes devoted to auto finance issues. Although the Holder Rule has been around since the 1970s and is a staple of consumer finance contracts, there have been several recent, important developments. Brooke and Chris hop behind the wheel of this installment to review these developments, the position taken by the FTC and courts, and the potential impacts to dealers and finance companies.Our Auto Finance Special Series on The Consumer Finance Podcast will be exploring various facets of the auto finance industry, from regulatory changes and compliance challenges to market trends and future outlooks. This series is essential for anyone looking to stay ahead in the rapidly evolving world of auto finance. Subscribe to our podcast on your favorite platform to ensure you don't miss an episode!In case you missed it, listen to the previous episodes in this series:Auto Finance – The CFPB Complaints ReportNavigating the CFPB's Auto Finance Data Collection Initiative

May 16, 2024 • 10min
Understanding the CFPB's Rules for Risk-Based Nonbank Supervision
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis discusses the recent changes the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) made to its rules for designating nonbanks subject to supervision due to potential risks to consumers. Willis provides a background on this authority granted to the CFPB by the Dodd-Frank Act and discusses the CFPB's increased use of this authority in recent years. He also delves into the implications of the CFPB's updated rules, emphasizing the need for nonbanks to prepare for potential supervision and to build robust compliance management systems. The episode provides valuable insights for nonbanks navigating the regulatory landscape and the potential for CFPB supervision.
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