
The Consumer Finance Podcast
The Consumer Finance Podcast provides reliable, insightful, and entertaining industry-specific content central to consumer finance services. Hosted by veteran Troutman Pepper Locke CFS Partner Chris Willis, this podcast features industry experts, insiders, and other Troutman Pepper Locke attorneys delivering easily digestible segments on a variety of topics.
Latest episodes

Nov 21, 2024 • 27min
Navigating New York City's New Debt Collection Rules
Join Chris Willis and his colleague Stefanie Jackman as they delve into the recent amendments to New York City's debt collection rules. In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, they discuss the significant changes, including communication restrictions, validation requirements, and the expanded coverage to include creditors. Learn about the implications for both creditors and debt collectors, the enforcement mechanisms, and the ongoing legal challenges. Stay informed and prepared for the April 1, 2025, enforcement date.

Nov 14, 2024 • 20min
Navigating the NYDFS' Cybersecurity Guidance on AI
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis is joined by Partner Kim Phan to discuss the latest cybersecurity guidance from the New York Department of Financial Services (NYDFS) concerning artificial intelligence (AI). Released on October 16, this guidance addresses the growing cybersecurity threats posed by AI and provides insights on how financial institutions can mitigate these risks. Kim and Chris delve into the specifics of the guidance, including the expectations for risk assessments, the importance of monitoring AI usage, and practical steps for enhancing cybersecurity measures. They also highlight the dual perspective of AI risks from both external threat actors and internal vulnerabilities, and discuss the potential benefits of integrating AI into cybersecurity strategies. Tune in to gain a comprehensive understanding of how to navigate these new guidelines and stay ahead in the evolving landscape of cybersecurity.

Nov 7, 2024 • 30min
CFPB's Supervisory Highlights on Auto-Finance and Auto-Servicing
In this special joint episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast and Moving the Metal, Chris Willis teams up with Brooke Conkle and Chris Capurso, hosts of the Moving the Metal podcast, to discuss the CFPB's recent supervisory highlights on auto-finance and auto-servicing. Joined by Stefanie Jackman, a partner experienced in auto-finance servicing and collections, the team delves into the CFPB’s findings on issues ranging from repossessions and servicing practices to optional products and credit reporting. They explore the implications of these findings and provide insights into the regulatory landscape, emphasizing the importance of compliance and timely remediation. Tune in for an in-depth analysis of the CFPB's focus areas and what they mean for the auto-finance industry.

Oct 31, 2024 • 10min
Introducing Heryka Knoespel: A New Partner at Troutman Pepper
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, host Chris Willis introduces the firm's newest partner, Heryka Knoespel. Heryka shares insights into her national litigation practice, focusing on fraud cases involving email and text message compromises. As a native Spanish speaker, she also discusses her role in regulatory compliance for Spanish-language marketing and advertising. Heryka's unique background and experience make her a valuable addition to the Troutman Pepper team. Tune in to learn more about her journey into consumer financial services law and her vision for the future.

Oct 24, 2024 • 37min
Navigating Hot Topics in Consumer Finance: Litigation Trends, Regulatory Changes, and Medical Debt Collection
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis is joined by Troutman Pepper Partner David Anthony and Rami Haddad, deputy general counsel for Compliance, Litigation, and Privacy at PRA Group. The discussion dives into a variety of pressing issues in the consumer finance sector and covers current litigation trends, the impact of the Supreme Court's overruling of Chevron in the Loper Bright case, and the CFPB's new nonbank registry rule. The episode also explores the heightened focus on medical debt collection by the CFPB and its potential implications for the industry. Tune in for expert insights and a comprehensive overview of these critical topics.

Oct 17, 2024 • 24min
Exploring AI's Potential in Financial Services With John Sun of SpringLabs
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis is joined by Troutman Pepper Partner Mark Furletti, and special guest John Sun, CEO and co-founder of SpringLabs. The discussion delves into the transformative possibilities of artificial intelligence (AI) in the financial services sector, and covers the basics of AI, its current applications, and future potential. The conversation highlights how AI, particularly generative pre-trained models, can revolutionize complaint management, enhance regulatory compliance, and improve operational efficiency. Tune in to understand how AI is reshaping the landscape of consumer financial services and what lies ahead.

Oct 10, 2024 • 21min
Navigating the CFPB's Controversial Interpretive Rule on BNPL Products
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis is joined by Partners Mark Furletti and Jason Cover to delve into the CFPB's recent interpretive rule that classifies buy now, pay later (BNPL) products as credit cards under Regulation Z. The discussion unpacks the controversy surrounding this rule, the subsequent FAQs released by the CFPB, and the broader implications for the BNPL industry. The episode explores the challenges and ambiguities posed by the rule, potential compliance strategies, and the likelihood of legal challenges. Tune in for an insightful analysis of one of the year's most debated regulatory developments in consumer finance.

Oct 3, 2024 • 11min
CFPB's Focus on Student Loan Servicing: Insights from the Office of Servicemember Affairs Report
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis delves into the latest annual report from the CFPB's Office of Servicemember Affairs. While the report is ostensibly about issues affecting military personnel, it primarily highlights ongoing challenges in student loan servicing. Chris discusses key findings, including customer service obstacles, errors in income-driven repayment plans, and the contentious practice of transcript withholding. This episode underscores the CFPB's persistent focus on these issues and the implications for the student loan servicing industry. Tune in for a comprehensive analysis and stay informed about the regulatory landscape.

Sep 26, 2024 • 14min
Exploring the CFPB's Stance on AI in Financial Services
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis delves into the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's (CFPB) recent response to the Treasury Department's request for information on the use of artificial intelligence (AI) in financial services. Chris highlights key points from the CFPB's communication, including their views on fraud models, fair lending testing standards, and the implications for financial institutions. He also discusses the CFPB's candid remarks about its own innovation office and the future of regulatory treatment for individual firms. This episode is essential listening for anyone in the financial services industry looking to stay informed about regulatory expectations and compliance challenges.

Sep 19, 2024 • 19min
The CFPB's Report on Negative Equity in Auto Lending — Crossover Episode With Moving the Metal Podcast
In this special crossover episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast and Moving the Metal, Troutman Pepper attorneys Brooke Conkle and Chris Capurso discuss the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's (CFPB) new report on negative equity in auto lending. This report, the first of its kind, utilizes data from the CFPB's 2023 Auto Finance Data Pilot, which was issued to major banks, finance companies, and captive lenders. Brooke and Chris analyze the impact of the report, including what the report may indicate for the CFPB's upcoming priorities.
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