

The Consumer Finance Podcast
Chris Willis, Troutman Pepper Locke
The Consumer Finance Podcast provides reliable, insightful, and entertaining industry-specific content central to consumer finance services. Hosted by veteran Troutman Pepper Locke CFS Partner Chris Willis, this podcast features industry experts, insiders, and other Troutman Pepper Locke attorneys delivering easily digestible segments on a variety of topics.
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Jul 24, 2025 • 25min
Regulatory Rollback: Legal Challenges and Opportunities in Earned-Wage Access
This discussion features Keith Barnett, host of the Payments Pros podcast, and Mark Furletti, a partner at Troutman Pepper Locke, who specializes in Consumer Financial Services. They explore the recent changes in regulatory guidance on earned-wage access (EWA) products, especially after the CFPB's withdrawal. The conversation highlights the history of EWA, the challenges posed by varying state laws, and the importance of compliance for fintechs. They also touch on the rising trend of litigation surrounding EWA, emphasizing the need for clarity in legal frameworks.

Jul 17, 2025 • 26min
Wire Fraud Litigants Beware: Fourth Circuit Ruling Protects the Banks
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis is joined by veteran litigators and Troutman Pepper Locke Partners Mary Zinsner and Heryka Knoespel to dissect a groundbreaking Fourth Circuit decision on bank liability in wire transfer fraud cases. The ruling clarifies the actual knowledge standard under the Uniform Commercial Code, rejecting negligence-based liability and safeguarding the speed and efficiency of the banking system. Discover how this decision impacts future litigation and the banking industry's approach to fraud prevention.

Jul 10, 2025 • 16min
From Banks to Fintech: The Evolution of Small Business Lending
In this special crossover edition of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast, Carlin McCrory and Jason Cover are joined by their colleague Caleb Rosenberg to explore the evolving landscape of small business financing. They highlight the significant growth in diverse financing products and providers, which have expanded funding access for small businesses, particularly startups.The discussion outlines the evolution from traditional bank lending to the rise of online and fintech solutions, which have filled gaps left by conventional lenders. The group also examines the complexities of the regulatory environment, focusing on the increased scrutiny from state legislatures and the introduction of consumer-like disclosure requirements for small business lending.Additionally, they consider the impact of recent legislative changes in states like Texas and Louisiana, which could transform financing practices. The conversation includes best practices for structuring and servicing financial products while also speculating on future regulatory trends and the potential influence of federal oversight by the FTC.

Jul 3, 2025 • 19min
Point-of-Sale Finance Series: Banking on Lending Models
In this crossover episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast and Payments Pros, Chris Willis, Jason Cover, and Taylor Gess continue the Point-of-Sale Finance Series to discuss licensed lending and bank model lending programs. This conversation dives into the benefits, challenges, and regulatory landscapes that shape these popular lending models for financial institutions and fintechs. Consumer finance providers will gain valuable insights on structuring successful lending partnerships in today's complex environment.

Jun 26, 2025 • 17min
Current Regulatory, Legislative, and Litigation Developments on ADA Website Accessibility for Consumer Finance Digital Platforms
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis and Lori Sommerfield discuss the latest regulatory, legislative, and litigation developments under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), as accessibility of digital platforms and mobile applications increasingly become crucial for consumer finance providers. This episode covers the DOJ's guidance on website accessibility, evolving Web Content Accessibility Guidelines, potential legislative solutions, and the risks of private litigation amid a surge in lawsuits alleging violations of the ADA. With a focus on litigation trends and risk mitigation strategies, this discussion is vital for businesses striving to ensure compliance and protect their digital assets in a complex legal environment. Gain practical insights on assessing and improving website accessibility and learn how to establish a robust ADA risk management program to shield your business from potential legal challenges.

Jun 20, 2025 • 28min
Cruising Through Change: The Auto-Finance Industry’s New Era Under Trump Unveiled
In this special crossover episode between Moving the Metal and The Consumer Finance Podcast, Brooke Conkle, Chris Capurso, and Chris Willis analyze the first 100 days of the second Trump administration, focusing on its impact on the auto-finance industry. They discuss the anticipated enforcement slowdown by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), unexpected halts in supervisory activities, and leadership changes at the Federal Trade Commission and CFPB. The conversation highlights the administration's focus on consumer fees, the evolving role of state regulators, and shifts in discrimination theories impacting compliance practices. This episode provides insights into strategic regulatory changes and offers guidance for navigating the complexities of the auto-finance sector in 2025.

Jun 12, 2025 • 23min
Regulatory Rollback: Inside the CFPB’s FCRA Guidance Withdrawal
In this special crossover episode between FCRA Focus and The Consumer Finance Podcast, Kim Phan, Dave Gettings, Chris Willis, and Cindy Hanson explore the recent withdrawal of Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) guidance affecting the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA). This episode provides a comprehensive analysis of how these changes impact key areas such as preemption, background screening, permissible purpose, artificial intelligence, and state attorneys general enforcement actions. The discussion highlights the implications for consumer reporting agencies, furnishers, end-users, and the broader regulatory landscape, offering valuable insights for professionals navigating these evolving challenges. Tune in to understand the potential shifts in compliance and enforcement.

Jun 5, 2025 • 15min
Point-of-Sale Finance Series: The Great Debate of Loans vs. Credit Sales
In this crossover episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast and Payments Pros, Chris Willis, Jason Cover, and Taylor Gess unravel the often-confused distinctions between loans and credit sales in the first installment of our Point-of-Sale Finance Series. This episode sheds light on the regulatory nuances that impact the delivery of financial products. From the historical backdrop of Retail Installment Sales Acts to the modern-day challenges of terminology, the conversation offers a comprehensive overview of the pros and cons of retail installment contracts and direct loans. Whether you're a seasoned professional or new to consumer finance, this discussion will enhance your understanding of these pivotal financial structures.

Jun 3, 2025 • 5min
Explore the Impact of Point-of-Sale Finance in Our Upcoming Series
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis is joined by Jason Cover to introduce an upcoming special series focused on point-of-sale finance, a rapidly evolving sector in consumer financial services. This teaser provides a sneak peek into increasingly popular topics that will be discussed throughout the series, including innovative point-of-sale finance solutions such as payment methods beyond traditional credit and debit cards, in addition to a diverse range of products and the dynamic interactions between fintech lenders, financial institutions, and merchants. The series will also explore foundational concepts and specific models across various industries, such as home improvements and medical financing, setting the stage for a deep dive into the transformative impact of point-of-sale finance on consumer transactions.

May 29, 2025 • 26min
Regulatory Rollback: Impact on Industry of CFPB's Withdrawal of Fair Lending and UDAAP Informal Guidance
In this episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis and Lori Sommerfield discuss the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's (CFPB) recent withdrawal of more than 60 pieces of informal guidance, focusing on those related to fair lending and unfair, deceptive, or abusive acts or practices (UDAAP) issues. This conversation highlights key pieces of guidance that have been rescinded, including those concerning adverse action notices and abusive practices, in addition to insights on how these developments might influence the CFPB's enforcement priorities moving forward. This episode is part of a series across multiple podcasts from our Consumer Financial Services practice regarding the recent CFPB advisory withdrawals, and their impact in various areas.