Fixing Healthcare Podcast

George Halverson was CEO of Health Partners in Minnesota for 18 years and CEO of Kaiser Permanente for 12. As a health-plan leader, he spent 30 years fixing healthcare. He was successful in large part because he rejected what most Americans believe about health insurance. Halvorson believes better and more affordable healthcare is possible when people stop blindly paying for it and start assuming the role of buyer. “I absolutely, totally believe that we have to become better purchasers of care as a country,” said Halvorson, who worked as CEO alongside Fixing Healthcare cohost Robert Pearl from 2002 to 2014 at Kaiser Permanente. “When we function as a buyer, not a payer, we end up with much better care. We can expect quality to improve. We can expect data to flow. We can expect teams to function.” In this interview, Halvorson talks about health plans and the role of buyers. He also touches on the brilliance of Medicare Advantage, the bleak outlook for solo-practice doctors, and ways to improve healthcare for America’s most vulnerable populations. George Halvorson Interview Highlights On buying (rather than paying) for healthcare “When we buy care as a package, when we buy care from plans, and when we expect the plans to deliver the care, we have a whole different leverage for purchasing. In that setting, we can expect quality to improve. We can expect data to flow. We can expect teams to function … Both Kaiser and Health Partners are care settings that deliver care in addition to insure care. And because of that and you know the results. We have half as many people with hospital admissions. We have far (fewer) people with asthma attacks. We end up with much better care because we can focus on the care and do a better job of care.” On the solo-practice doctor “When you’re a solo-practice doctor, and you’re just trying to keep up all by yourself, that’s really hard. There (are) 1,000 medical journals out there. But when you have a Health Partners or Permanente Medical Group, that group can keep up on all of the science, can distill the science, and then can pass the best current science onto all of the people on the care team. So, it’s really problematic to try to keep up with medical science outside of a group setting. But in a group setting, because of Permanente, Health Partners, Mayo Clinic do a really good job of keeping up. So I much prefer the model. I just think it makes huge sense. And I think the whole country needs to move in that direction.” On for-profit vs. not-for-profit health plans “Well, I think the differences between the not-for-profit and the for-profits were significantly greater a couple decades ago than they are now. As a not-for-profit health plan, we can focus on the wellbeing of the patient. I used to be chair of AHIP years ago. I was chair a couple times of the National Association of Insurance Companies and Health Plans. And one of the things, when we went down the path of improving quality in that context, we initially had some of the for-profit companies resisting going down that path. And they resisted because they had shareholder lawsuits, literally saying, ‘As shareholders, that those health plans should not be improving quality. They should be optimizing profit.’” On Optum following the Kaiser Permanente playbook “Optum right now is trying really hard. Their self-image is that they’re going to deliver great and continuously improving care. That’s part of what they’re trying to push in their culture. And that’s also part of their market model. So, they have gone far down that road. And I know for a fact that the folks at Optum have studied Kaiser Permanente, studied stuff that you (Robert Pearl) had invented. They’re moving it into their setting. But they’re doing it with the belief that they will thrive over time by being best in care and not just best on underwriting and risk selection.” On us vs. them in medical care “We are wired instinctively to divide the world into us and them. We figure out who’s an us, we figure out who is a them, and when someone is an us, we’re supportive, we’re enabling, we do good things for us. And when someone is a them we’re suspicious, paranoid, territorial, distrustful. In healthcare, we end up with all kinds of negative consequences, unintended consequences by many well-meaning people who diagnose differently, or treat differently, or prescribe differently, and also who literally don’t trust.” On President Biden’s healthcare agenda “He should make the Medicaid part of his agenda really clear. And a lot of the people who are opposed to him, politically, a disproportionate number of them need Medicaid and need to have a sense of that he is helping, steering them in that direction. I think on the Medicare side, the pure classic Medicare for all model has some support with some elements in the party, but it does not have support with the vast majority of Democrats. Unions don’t like it at all, because unions actually provide healthcare in good ways for their members.” READ: Full transcript with George Halvorson  * * * Dr. Robert Pearl is the author of a new book about medicine’s invisible yet highly influential physician culture. Check out “Uncaring: How Physician Culture Is Killing Doctors & Patients.” Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn. The post FHC #39: Paying for healthcare is out. Buying healthcare is in. appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

There was time when Coronavirus: The Truth cohosts Jeremy Corr and Dr. Robert Pearl assumed the show would be irrelevant and retired by episode 20. This week, which marks the show’s 50th episode, the question must be asked: Is the coronavirus here to stay? Several news outlets have reported in recent weeks that the Covid-19 pandemic may become endemic, continuing to circulate among the population for the foreseeable future. If that were to happen, according to the Wall Street Journal, “The disease could eventually become more similar to routine illnesses like the flu or colds, common ailments that are less destructive and deadly than Covid-19 is now.” So, with vaccinations rates stalling and herd immunity still a long way off, Pearl and Corr discuss whether some form of Covid-19 be with us for the long haul. That and the following [time stamped] questions now: [01:01] Each show begins with the most recent and relevant facts concerning the Covid-19 pandemic and its impact on American life. What’s happening and what does it mean? [04:45] Listener question: “I’ve been fully vaccinated and was wondering about getting a booster since there has been so much debate about approving additional shots for people under the age of 65.” [06:46] Merck’s Covid-19 pill is now approved in Great Britain. What’s the story here? [10:25] Do we need vaccine mandates? [12:31] What should parents know about vaccinated their children? [13:48] Question for cohost Jeremy Corr: If you knew in March 2020 this pandemic would be a 2-3 year march, is there anything you would have done differently for yourself or your son? [15:50] Listener question: “I have recovered from Covid-19. How important is it to be vaccinated in addition? I’m worried about having a reaction to the shot. [18:18] Will the Covid-19 pandemic become endemic? And what would that mean?   [23:42] Do poor Americans suffer more in a pandemic? [25:09] Did financial incentives increase vaccinations as hoped? [26:48] What’s good this week? [28:48] What’s this episode’s non-Covid healthcare story? [32:01] What’s coming up on the Fixing Healthcare podcast? [33:35] Should parents vaccinate the five- and six-year-olds? This episode is available on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify and other podcast platforms. If you have coronavirus questions for the hosts, please visit the contact page or send us a message on Twitter or LinkedIn. *To ensure the credibility of this program, Coronavirus: The Truth refuses to accept sponsorship, outside funding sources or guests with any financial or personal conflicts of interest. The post CTT #50: Is Covid-19 here to stay? appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of Coronavirus: The Truth, Jeremy Corr and Dr. Robert Pearl tackle more than a dozen timely and tricky Covid-19 questions. This week: What should listeners know about the upcoming holiday season and Covid travel restrictions? Has the Biden administration provided any clarity on the vaccine mandate for employers? How did Puerto Rico manage to out-vaccinate every American state? And, finally, one listener asks: Can I get a flu shot and Covid-19 booster at the same time? Dr. Pearl responds at the bottom of the broadcast by noting the heightened risks of influenza this year, given the dramatic decline in cases during the 2020 flu season. He also dives into the CDC’s guidance for people hoping to double up their flu and booster shots at the pharmacy or doctor’s office. Tune in for answers to this and other (time-stamped) questions on Coronavirus: The Truth. [01:01] Each show begins with the most recent and relevant facts concerning the Covid-19 pandemic and its impact on American life. What’s happening and what does it mean? [04:46] Vaccine boosters: Who’s eligible for which one? Should J&J recipients mix and match? [06:49] Where do things stand with international ground and air travel restrictions? [10:05] With the 50th episode coming up, what stands out about the past 18 months to CTT hosts Jeremy Corr and Dr. Robert Pearl? [11:30] What lessons can we learn from Gen. Colin Powell’s death? [14:55] What are Biden’s three strategic options in the battle against Covid-19? [18:18] Do we need to vaccinate kids in order to reach the 90% threshold for herd immunity? [21:54] What’s the relationship between a vaccinated person’s age and chances of dying? [23:49] How did Puerto Rico achieve such a high level of vaccination? [26:09] What’s this episode’s big non-Covid healthcare story? [29:09] Will families celebrate the holidays differently this year vs. last? [30:08] Listener question: Flu season is about to begin, so can I get a booster for Covid-19 and a flu shot on the same day? This episode is available on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify and other podcast platforms. If you have coronavirus questions for the hosts, please visit the contact page or send us a message on Twitter or LinkedIn. *To ensure the credibility of this program, Coronavirus: The Truth refuses to accept sponsorship, outside funding sources or guests with any financial or personal conflicts of interest. The post CTT #49: Can I get my flu shot and Covid-19 booster at the same time?  appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

Merck’s new oral antiviral medication (molnupiravir) has been labeled a “huge, huge advance” in the fight against Covid-19 by a Harvard Medical School virologist. The pill also has been called the “holy grail of treatments” by an executive director at the World Health Organization. Merck says it’s now seeking FDA authorization of the investigational medication after phase-three clinical trials showed a 50% reduction in hospitalizations and death among individuals infected with Covid-19. In this episode of Coronavirus: The Truth, Jeremy Corr and Dr. Robert Pearl discuss the new medication, the research done so far, the pill’s side effects, the costs, and the implications for our nation’s ongoing battle against the coronavirus. [01:00] What should we know about Merck’s new pill? [06:40] How do we explain those who are anti-vaccine but pro-Merck-pill despite the large differential in available research data? [07:55] Who should get a booster, according to FDA and CDC guidelines? [10:58] Are vaccine mandates working based on early returns? [12:42]  What prompted Dr. Pearl’s provocative Forbes article comparing Covid-19 with 9/11? [16:44] Listener question: Do we have any data regarding side-effects from booster shots? [18:12] What ever happened to Covid-19 testing? [21:10] Any scientific truth to social-media claims Covid-19 vaccines cause infertility [23:29] What’s good this week? [25:59] What’s the big non-Covid healthcare story listeners should know about? [31:10] Listener question: “I loved [Jeremy’s] analysis about which of the past U.S. presidents would have been best to lead our nation through the pandemic. I though your choice of Lincoln was superb. Who do you believe would have been the worst president for this task?” [34:12] What should we make of California Governor Gavin Newsome’s decision to require vaccination for in-person classes for all students in schools? This episode is available on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify and other podcast platforms. If you have coronavirus questions for the hosts, please visit the contact page or send us a message on Twitter or LinkedIn. *To ensure the credibility of this program, Coronavirus: The Truth refuses to accept sponsorship, outside funding sources or guests with any financial or personal conflicts of interest. The post CTT #48: Is Merck’s anti-Covid pill really the ‘holy grail’? appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

Our guest today is Dr. Ernest Grant, president of the American Nurses Association (ANA). He is the first male president in the organization’s 125-year history. And his passion for nursing can be traced back to his upbringing in the South as one of seven children in a very poor family. “Even if I had won scholarships, I would not have enough to pay to complete undergrad and then go on to med school,” he explained to Fixing Healthcare cohosts Jeremy Corr and Dr. Robert Pearl. “So, my high school guidance counselor suggested going to the local community college becoming a nurse. About three months into that program, I forgot all about med school. I found out that nursing was my calling.” In his role as ANA president, Dr. Grant advocates for better working conditions, better mental-health services and better wages for the nation’s 4.3 million registered nurses. Dr. Grant, himself, has more than 30 years of nursing experience and is a globally recognized burn-care and fire-safety expert. He received his PhD from the University of North Carolina and serves as an adjunct faculty member for the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill School of Nursing. In 2002 President Bush honored him with the Nurse of the Year award for the work he did treating burn victims after the World Trade Center tragedy. Ernest Grant Interview Highlights   On advocating for Black patients and nurses “A lot of times what we see and hear is that nurses and/or the patients will say, ‘No one listened to me,’ or ‘I was not heard.’ … So, it’s a matter of nurses advocating to educate all the members of the healthcare team, not just nurses, but we’re (also) talking doctors, advanced practice nurses, PAs, all the way down the line to actively listen to what the person is saying.” On Nurses being primary care providers “I think that (nurses) have proven themselves over and over again that they are capable of doing that. And the thing that we have to realize that it’s a collaboration. It’s not one being better than the other. What skills does the nurse practitioner bring to the table that would be able to help that patient for that particular time? I mean, studies have shown that patients generally, overwhelmingly love the care that they do get from the advanced practice nurses. And I think part of that … is the fact that we tend to spend more time with (patients) and actually listening to them.” On more male nurses and professional diversity “I will say that I may be the first (male president of the ANA), but I hope and pray that I’m not the last. It only took 122 years for the glass ceiling to be broken. I hope that I have blazed a trail for others to follow behind me. One of the things that I did run on my platform when I was running for my first election was to increase the diversity of nursing, because I strongly feel that nursing should be reflective of the people that we serve. And that includes not only increasing the diversity from a color perspective, but also from a gender perspective as well.” On burnout in nursing “I hear from nurses every day about the trials and tribulations that they’re having at the bedside. … They’re truly burned out as a result of having to work 13, 14, 16 hours or so … In an ICU, they don’t have time to even go to the bathroom sometimes during a 12-hour shift. If they’re lucky, they may get 15 minutes for a lunch break. These are working conditions that should not be.” On the nursing shortage “There’s such a severe nursing shortage. It’s estimated that by even just next year alone, we’re going to be down about 1 to 1.5 million nurses … At the university level or the community college level, they’re admitting students every semester in order to try to turn out more nurses to meet the demands of the workforce. The problem, however, is that there’s not enough clinical faculty and not enough clinical spaces.” READ: Full transcript with Ernest Grant  * * * Dr. Robert Pearl is the author of a new book about medicine’s invisible yet highly influential physician culture. Check out “Uncaring: How Physician Culture Is Killing Doctors & Patients.” Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn. The post FHC #38: More male nurses, nurses of color needed says ANA president appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

Data points, alone, never tell the whole story. Numbers are often used and misused to confirm our personal biases rather than to inform or reform our thinking. No matter how you view the pandemic or slice the data, it’s hard to see the latest set of Covid-19 figures as anything other than proof our nation remains embroiled in an avoidable and ongoing tragedy, one that has been unfolding for the better part of two years. More than 675,000 deaths from Covid-19, more than from the Spanish Flu. 1 in every 500 Americans have died from the pandemic. 1 in 4 U.S. hospitals have exceeded 95% capacity, up from 1 in 5 a month ago. 11x higher mortality rate for unvaccinated Americans vs. those who are vaccinated. In this episode of Coronavirus: The Truth, Jeremy Corr and Dr. Robert Pearl put these numbers in context and discuss the following questions: [01:00] What is happening with Covid-19 data and what does it all mean? [07:37] Why do vaccine hesitancy and resistance remain so high and what can be done? [10:18] What does data from other countries show about vaccine effectiveness against the Delta variant? [11:39] What are the two most compelling arguments in the vaccine debate now? [14:10] What should parents know this week? [16:49] Is the Delta Airlines fine of $200 on unvaccinated workers making a difference? [18:12] What is the vaccine issue doing to friendships in America? [20:00] Why was the FDA’s hearing on the Pfizer booster so contentious? [23:51] What’s good this week? [25:32] What’s this episode’s big non-Covid story? [27:47] History hypothetical for Jeremy Corr: Which U.S. presidents would’ve best led our nation through the Covid-19 pandemic? [33:17] Why so little progress in the fight against Covid-19? This episode is available on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify and other podcast platforms. If you have coronavirus questions for the hosts, please visit the contact page or send us a message on Twitter or LinkedIn. *To ensure the credibility of this program, Coronavirus: The Truth refuses to accept sponsorship, outside funding sources or guests with any financial or personal conflicts of interest. The post CTT #47: How are the Covid-19 numbers still this bad?   appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

A listener wrote in about Ivermectin—a drug used to kill worms and parasitic infections—because her friends had recommended it for treating Covid-19. To date, 14 studies have concluded that Ivermectin is ineffective against Covid-19 and potentially dangerous. One study found the drug could kill the coronavirus in a laboratory setting, however, the dosage used would have been toxic and potentially lethal to humans. Is there a reason people are choosing this unproven drug over a thoroughly tested vaccine? In this episode of Coronavirus: The Truth, Jeremy Corr and Dr. Robert Pearl tackle this tricky topic and discuss the following questions: [01:00] Each show begins with the most recent and relevant facts concerning the Covid-19 pandemic and its impact on American life. What’s happening and what does it mean? [04:04] Are Covid-19 booster shots effective? [07:27] How is Delta Airlines trying to contain the Delta variant? [11:25] How has Covid-19 changed American culture? [13:17] What are the dangers of teenagers developing myocarditis after vaccination? [15:55] What should we know about the Mu variant? [16:58] Last month, schools reopened. What did we learn? [19:27] What’s the story with people using Ivermectin to treat Covid-19? [21:25] What’s good this week? [23:40] What’s this episode’s biggest non-Covid healthcare story? [26:55] What does American history teach us about healthcare today? [29:54] Mutants vs. vaccines: What does the science tell us? This episode is available on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify and other podcast platforms. If you have coronavirus questions for the hosts, please visit the contact page or send us a message on Twitter or LinkedIn. *To ensure the credibility of this program, Coronavirus: The Truth refuses to accept sponsorship, outside funding sources or guests with any financial or personal conflicts of interest. The post CTT #46: Why are people taking Ivermectin to treat Covid-19? appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

Rick Pollack, president and CEO of the American Hospital Association, envisions a future where the iconic “H” comes to symbolize much more than a building where people go for acute inpatient care. “I hope that in 10 years we have more of a focus on prevention,” he told Fixing Healthcare cohosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. “I hope we have more integrated delivery systems that are providing the care to people where they’re not bounced around from one unconnected facility to the next. I would hope that 10 years from now, we’re in a position where there is a real focus on ensuring that people get care in a very convenient way. I hope in 10 years, we will have built on the Affordable Care Act to get to almost universal coverage.” Pollack acknowledges that hospitals aren’t there yet. But as the head of the AHA, he has called on the organization’s nearly 5,000 members to reevaluate, reboot and reimagine care so that, together, they can create a better future for American patients. Rick Pollack Interview Highlights On mandating COVID vaccinations “We support hospitals that mandate vaccines for their employees, and we’ve worked really closely with the American Medical Association and the American Nurses Association and encouraging the public to get vaccinated. We’ve been involved in all sorts of public service announcement campaigns, and we’ve been working with the Black Physicians against COVID. We’ve been working with a lot of different coalitions to encourage people to get vaccinated, to make the case of why it’s important and why it’s safe.” On the best healthcare policy for Americans “We worked hard on the Affordable Care Act. We supported it. We defended it in the courts. We still continue to believe that that is a platform on which to build, both in terms of expanding coverage, building on the delivery system reforms that were inherent in it and, certainly, the quality improvements that were a part of it … I think that the Affordable Care Act is still the basis for the future.” On medical bills and $15 Tylenol charges “We probably couldn’t have created a more complicated system if we tried, when it comes to the billing system. And we have been engaged in various, what we call, ‘patient friendly billing initiatives’ … to try to make things more comprehensible. And that is ongoing. But at the end of the day, the real way to get at this problem is through prepaid care or capitation or some form of prepayment, which really doesn’t involve focusing on line-items … That’s the ultimate solution for the puzzle that we’ve got going on right now.” On redesigning rural hospitals “We need to think about the rural hospital more as a network of caring there as a building … So much of our healthcare expense and need in the future is going to be managing chronic conditions. Fact of the matter is most people want to have those situations or conditions managed at home. They don’t want to have to leave their community for care. So, for rural hospitals, they also need to be thinking about different pathways for the future. They need to be thinking about how they redefine who they are, what they are and what they do.” On burnout in hospitals “The issue that is on the minds of most hospital CEOs that I talked to, and I talked to a lot of them all the time, you ask them what their priorities are and it’s workforce, workforce, workforce, resiliency, resiliency, resiliency. Right now, it’s not an issue of having enough supplies. It’s not an issue of having enough equipment. It’s not even an issue sometimes of having enough beds. The issue is really having the staff available … And there is no higher priority than ensuring that our workforce is taken care of. Without them, the system breaks down. Simple as that.” READ: Full transcript with Rick Pollack  * * * Hundreds of listeners participated in the 2021 Fixing Healthcare survey. The results offer surprising insights into medicine’s cultural issues. Learn more » Dr. Robert Pearl is the author of a new book about medicine’s invisible yet highly influential physician culture. Check out “Uncaring: How Physician Culture Is Killing Doctors & Patients.” Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn. The post FHC #37: The future of the American hospital appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

A while back, Houston Methodist hospital gave its 26,000 employees an ultimatum: Get vaccinated or get a new job. All but 100 or so workers complied and, now, hospital leaders are reporting a nearly 100% vaccination rate. Clearly, the mandate worked for one hospital, but what about others institutions? Recent weeks have brought on several high-profile vaccine mandates from private employers like United Airlines, Google and Facebook, as well as government institutions like the VA and the U.S. military. But will these vaccine mandates help slow the raging Delta variant in the areas of the country being hit hardest? In this episode of Coronavirus: The Truth, Jeremy Corr and Dr. Robert Pearl discuss this burning question along with the following hot topics: [01:00] Each show begins with the most recent and relevant facts concerning the Covid-19 pandemic and its impact on American life. What’s happening and what does it mean? [04:09] Why did President Biden call for booster shots? [09:36] Listener question: “I had been ill with Covid-19, but am fully recovered now. I am worried about getting vaccinated. What would you recommend?” [11:10] How are parents reacting now that school is back in session? [13:34] What to make of mask mandates in various states? [16:03] How dangerous is the Delta variant compared to other Covid-19 mutations and possible vaccine complications? [21:04] Following Pearl’s Forbes article on mask/vaccine mandates (which has over 300,000 readers) do we have more info on the legality of mandates? [23:14] Why are Covid-19 cases are spiking among kids? [24:26] Are we destined to return to virtual education? [26:05] What’s good this week? [29:33] What’s this episode’s big non-Covid story? [32:47] In places that vote Republican, you might imagine people would encourage vaccination to protect the economy. Why haven’t they? [36:46] Listener questions (from a physician): Are there any statistical models to calculate the continuing risk of novel pathogenic Covid-19 variants? Is there evidence that these variants can arise among the vaccinated part of the population? And can herd immunity be achieved if those who are vaccinated can harbor the virus? This episode is available on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify and other podcast platforms. If you have coronavirus questions for the hosts, please visit the contact page or send us a message on Twitter or LinkedIn. *To ensure the credibility of this program, Coronavirus: The Truth refuses to accept sponsorship, outside funding sources or guests with any financial or personal conflicts of interest. The post CTT #45: Do vaccine mandates actually work? appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

“As you know my son starts kindergarten in a couple of weeks,” Jeremy Corr said to his cohost Dr. Robert Pearl in this episode of Coronavirus: The Truth. “I know this topic is causing anxiety for a lot of parents as they prepare for the school year. How’s the Delta variant affecting kids? Should we be more concerned than we were before? What advice do you have for parents with young children going to school in a couple of weeks?” Jeremy Corr and Dr. Robert Pearl discuss these questions in detail, dive into the “Delta-Plus” variant, consider a possible ban on booster shots, and tackle the following topics throughout the episode: [01:03] Each show begins with the most recent and relevant facts concerning the Covid-19 pandemic and its impact on American life. What’s happening and what does it mean? [06:47] Why is the CDC recommending masks indoors for vaccinated people? [11:07] What is “Delta-Plus”? [12:51] How is the Delta variant affecting foreign travel? [13:48] Why does controversy keep following the FDA and CDC of late? [16:28] Why did the WHO propose a ban on booster shots? [18:09] Does the Delta variant affect kids differently than adults? [21:32] What reasons do people give for refusing vaccination? [23:26] What’s good this week? [25:13] What’s the big non-Covid story this week? [27:20] How has Delta impacted areas like Iowa where cohost Jeremy Corr lives? This episode is available on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify and other podcast platforms. If you have coronavirus questions for the hosts, please visit the contact page or send us a message on Twitter or LinkedIn. *To ensure the credibility of this program, Coronavirus: The Truth refuses to accept sponsorship, outside funding sources or guests with any financial or personal conflicts of interest. The post CTT #44: How does the Delta variant affect kids? appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.