
Finding Brave
Finding Brave with Kathy Caprino helps listeners access the courage they need to honor their true passions, talents, and values in life and work, and leverage them for more success and happiness. Listen in as Kathy and her inspiring, top-level guests share a wealth of strategies and tips for building a braver, more rewarding life and career.
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Mar 31, 2022 • 38min
221: Strong Company Culture: The Antidote to the “Great Resignation” with Rose Gailey
Thank you for listening to our Finding Brave show, ranked in the Top 100 Apple Career Podcasts! “If culture is the antidote, how do you define it? Where are you headed? Is there a ‘from-to’ that’s required both to embrace diversity and drive inclusion, and to thrive in this environment? I think finding ways to keep your fingers on the pulse, frequently, is really critical.” - Rose Gailey One of the most important aspects of an organization is its culture, for so many reasons, which is why on today’s episode we take a look at how organizations can take concrete steps to improve their culture and at the same time, bolster business outcomes. However, as our Finding Brave guest reveals, culture must first be defined. It is also a journey, not a destination, with the secret ingredient being communication at all levels. Rose Gailey is a partner and global lead for organization acceleration and culture shaping for Heidrick Consulting at Heidrick & Struggles, and a co-author of Future Focused: Shape Your Culture, Shape Your Future. Rose’s mission is to support positive change in the world one leadership team at a time, and to enable a world (and life!) better led. Rose has a beautiful vision for a corporate world based on two-way communication and a mutual love and respect for each other, and I’m so glad that she spent this time with us to share her wonderful insights. To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosegailey/

Mar 24, 2022 • 24min
220: Part 2: Why Happy People Are Annoying, with Josh Peck
Thank you for listening to our Finding Brave show, ranked in the Top 100 Apple Career Podcasts! “I knew that if it was between becoming a movie star but staying that size, or just becoming a civilian who had a normal job and was healthy, I would have picked that in a second.” - Josh Peck Our special guest is back today for Part Two of our fascinating conversation, where he dives deeper into his very personal story of weight loss, overcoming addiction, growing up on TV, what he’s learned about being a father, and how he reacted to the breakdown of a relationship that played out in a dramatic way in the public eye. Josh Peck has established himself as one of Hollywood's rising talents, making the transition from child actor to leading man, and social media influencer. Best known for his role on the Nickelodeon phenomenon Drake & Josh (2004-2007) for which he received a Kids’ Choice Nomination, Josh has starred in feature films such as Mean Creek alongside Rory Culkin, The Wackness beside Ben Kingsley, Red Dawn alongside Chris Hemsworth, Danny Collins with Al Pacino, Annette Benning, and Jennifer Garner, Take The 10 with Andy Samberg and Fred Armisen, and Netflix’s The Musical, co-starring Debra Messing, out later this year. In 2023, Josh will co-star in Christopher Nolan’s new movie, Oppenheimer. Currently, Josh is featured in Disney Plus’ Turner and Hooch series, a continuation of the 1989 Tom Hanks film of the same name, and stars in the highly anticipated Hulu series, How I Met Your Father, and in the iCarly Reboot on Paramount+. With 32.8 million fans across numerous social media platforms, Josh successfully leveraged his talents from acting, to podcasting and more, and is the author of the new memoir Happy People Are Annoying, out in bookstores March 15th. His book is a candid memoir sharing Josh’s reflections on the many stumbles and silver linings of his life and traces a zigzagging path to redemption. Again, I was so pleased to have this opportunity to speak with Josh and to bring him on the podcast to share his wise and refreshing insights on happiness and a life well-lived. To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.instagram.com/shuapeck/

Mar 17, 2022 • 22min
219: Part 1: Why Happy People Are Annoying, with Josh Peck
Thank you for listening to our Finding Brave show, ranked in the Top 100 Apple Career Podcasts! “The whole book is about me finding happiness in my own way, and what it looked like for someone like me to walk through what I did, be it losing 100 pounds, or facing drug and alcohol addiction and then eventually pivoting in my career. It was all of these things that allowed me to find what happiness was for me, and then redefine it.” - Josh Peck Today’s Finding Brave guest shares his view that happiness is beside the point, and life is really all about finding contentment through relationships, curiosity, and connection. He is ready to chip away at the glitz and glamor to expose the highs and lows of his journey as an actor and influencer, and I could not be more excited to share this candid and thought-provoking conversation with you today. Josh Peck has established himself as one of Hollywood's rising talents, making the transition from child actor to leading man, and social media influencer. Best known for his role on the Nickelodeon phenomenon Drake & Josh (2004-2007) for which he received a Kids’ Choice Nomination, Peck has starred in feature films such as Mean Creek alongside Rory Culkin, The Wackness beside Ben Kingsley, Red Dawn alongside Chris Hemsworth, Danny Collins with Al Pacino, Annette Benning, and Jennifer Garner, Take The 10 with Andy Samberg and Fred Armisen, and Netflix’s The Musical, co-starring Debra Messing, out later this year. In 2023, Josh will co-star in Christopher Nolan’s new movie, Oppenheimer. Currently, Peck is featured in Disney Plus’ Turner and Hooch series, a continuation of the 1989 Tom Hanks film of the same name, and stars in the highly anticipated Hulu series, How I Met Your Father, and in the iCarly Reboot on Paramount+. With 32.8 million fans across numerous social media platforms, Peck successfully leveraged his talents from acting, to podcasting and more, and is the author of the new memoir Happy People Are Annoying, out in bookstores March 15th. His book is a candid memoir sharing Josh’s reflections on the many stumbles and silver linings of his life and traces a zigzagging path to redemption. I have a great deal of gratitude for Josh for the very happy memories I have – of the hours of hilarity my children and I experienced together, watching Drake & Josh. Those are precious memories for me. His unique style of humor - with such exuberance, joy and insight - is a gift to the world. Check out the full 2-part series with Josh, as he gives us a deep look at what he’s learned about the true meaning of happiness. To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.instagram.com/shuapeck/

Mar 10, 2022 • 47min
218: Find Your Direction and Fall In Love With What You Do, with Stu Massengill
Thank you for listening to our Finding Brave show, ranked in the Top 100 Apple Career Podcasts! “We have to be really honest with ourselves, which I think is sometimes the hardest part. We have to really ask ourselves if we are happy in what we’re doing. Are we actually enjoying this, or do we really not like what we’re doing? Deep honesty [with ourselves] is where beautiful things come from.” - Stu Massengill If you’re feeling lost and wanting to find direction, our inspiring Finding Brave guest shares so much wisdom in this episode, and at such a relatively young age! We cover some of the same issues and topics in the work that we both do, but in a different way with unique perspectives and “lenses,” and I can’t wait for you to meet him and learn from him today. Stu Massengill is on a mission to change the statistic from 80% of people not loving what they do to 80% of people falling in love with what they do! He is a Peak Performance Strategist for Tony Robbins and the founder of Finding Direction. Through his company, he helps people go from lost in life to creating a life full of passion and fulfillment. As a high-achiever under 30, Stu has accomplished many things from building an 8-figure business at 20 years old to beating cancer at 24. Stu brings his deep passion and beautiful heart to creating lasting impact across the globe. I’ve seen from working with thousands of people around the world that when we approach life in enlivening, self-affirming ways and become more of who we really are, we are much better equipped to successfully thrive through the tough times, as Stu has. It was so refreshing to hear his overarching message that we should never settle for anything less than a life we love, and not wait a single second longer to pursue what it is that you really want to do in this life. To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.stumassengill.com/

Mar 3, 2022 • 46min
217: Bridge the Gap - Breakthrough Communication Tools to Transform Work Relationships, with Jennifer Edwards and Katie McCleary
Thank you for listening to our Finding Brave show, ranked in the Top 100 Apple Career Podcasts! “There are a lot of gaps to be bridged, and the only way that starts is by getting yourself into a dynamic, personally, where you understand that you’re part of the fabric. Be responsible for how you show up because that’s where it starts.” - Jennifer Edwards “When we walk into places where people are fighting so hard, but they’re not showing up correctly in the fight, what’s at stake for them? What are they not sharing here that I don’t know? When you know somebody’s personal story and their lived backgrounds, you cannot deny them their humanity.” - Katie McCleary How you show up, including your energy, presence, listening, and language, shapes key outcomes in the situations you find yourself in each day. I’m excited to welcome two special guests to Finding Brave today, who both offer simple but transformative ways to communicate clearly with people of any level or background and navigate any emotion or situation. What they reveal will help you set the stage for more rewarding relationships, and vastly improved business results. Jennifer Edwards and Katie McCleary are communication coaches and coauthors of the new book, Bridge the Gap: Breakthrough Communication Tools to Transform Work Relationships From Challenging to Collaborative. Jennifer is a leadership advisor working with Fortune 500 companies and boards, optimizing performance and collaboration. Her clients are global companies from Microsoft to WeWork. She is a partner at Winning Streak Ventures, an early-stage VC fund investing in disruptive technology companies. Katie is an entrepreneur and storyteller who trains leaders, creatives, and humanitarians to launch big ideas by leveraging their social and cultural capital. She is the founder of 916 Ink, a nonprofit that transforms vulnerable youth into confident authors. She hosts “The Drive” podcast on NPR’s CapRadio with the American Leadership Forum-MV in Sacramento. Jennifer and Katie will be speaking at the Women Lead Change’s 2022 Advocates & Allies Series on March 24th, 2022, about The Curiosity Cure to Build More Equitable and Collaborative Relationships, and you can learn more at https://www.wlcglobal.org/solutions/advocates-allies. By implementing the strategies they share in this episode, we can master our biological reactions and connect with others even amid pressure, anxiety and stress, and we can learn to manage the stress, biases, reactions, and judgments to build better relationships. By always leading with curiosity, we can all collaborate more effectively with those around us, as we become better leaders and connectors in our relationships. To learn more about today's guests, visit: https://howtobridgethegap.com/

Feb 24, 2022 • 37min
216: Female Entrepreneurs: Building More Success and Confidence Through Networking, with Pat Hedley
Thank you for listening to our Finding Brave show, ranked in the Top 100 Apple Career Podcasts! “In the process of networking, you hone your story. You actually get a better idea of what you’re trying to convey, how people are reacting to it, and how you need to modify it over time to become even better at telling your story.” - Pat Hedley Experts in the career, business and entrepreneurial space have said that your network is everything, but many people have a somewhat negative view of networking, viewing it as transactional, perhaps even unnecessary, and certainly burdensome. Today’s Finding Brave expert guest reframes networking as something that is essential, accessible, and life-affirming. She reveals why networking doesn’t have to be stressful, and it can (and should) be joyful, as well as help you learn, share, succeed, and connect in fulfilling ways with others. Pat Hedley is an investor, advisor and the author of Meet 100 People: A How-to Guide to the Career and Life Edge Everyone’s Missing. Pat spent nearly 30 years at global growth investment firm General Atlantic and now invests privately. She has a special interest in supporting and advising female entrepreneurs. Now more than ever, building connections and relationships is important for personal and professional success, which is why Pat’s conversation today is so timely. Whether you are already in the corporate world, embarking on a new career, or pursuing your entrepreneurial visions, the strategies Pat shares will encourage you to take empowered action and network with uplifting people who can help you achieve your highest goals, and will help you support others to rise as well. To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://meet100people.com/

Feb 17, 2022 • 36min
215: Digital Marketing Steps Small Businesses Need to Take To Thrive Today, with Neil Patel
Thank you for listening to our Finding Brave show, ranked in the Top 100 Apple Career Podcasts! “People give up too quickly. They start a campaign and do SEO or paid ads, and if it doesn’t work out in the first month or two, or even three months, they stop. Again, you need to do something consistently for at least 6 months to a year in marketing online, and it gets better over time when you can fine tune it.” - Neil Patel As an entrepreneur or owner of a business of any size, driving more traffic, sales, and leads is of the utmost importance. These are areas that I am always keen to learn more about, and today’s Finding Brave expert guest is just the person to teach us effective ways to build a brand, maximize exposure, and gain recognition for the products and services that we sell. Digital marketing executive Neil Patel is the CMO of NP Digital, a marketing agency serving start-ups, small businesses and publicly traded companies. A New York Times bestselling author, Neil was named a top influencer on the web by The Wall Street Journal. Forbes has shared that he is one of the top 10 marketers, and Entrepreneur Magazine has shared that has created one of the 100 most brilliant companies. Neil was recognized as a top 100 entrepreneur under the age of 30 by President Obama and a top 100 entrepreneur under the age of 35 by the United Nations. It is refreshing to hear someone with Neil’s know-how and experience reveal straight-talking, real-life strategies for how to grow our business success today. I hope you’ll try the helpful strategies he shares, and as always, let us know how they work for you! To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://neilpatel.com/ or https://npdigital.com/

Feb 10, 2022 • 47min
214: Thriving in Entertainment for 30+ Years - Keys to Artistic Success, with Siobhan Fallon Hogan
Thank you for listening to our Finding Brave show, ranked in the Top 100 Apple Career Podcasts! “The reason why I wrote so many one-woman shows over the years, and then I would always get films, is because it’s almost like dating. My mother used to say start dating a few guys and another guy will see you out at dinner, and that guy will then ask you out. Work begets work, but there were dry periods where I thought it was all over.” - Siobhan Fallon Hogan I’ve interviewed a lot of amazing individuals on this podcast and for my Forbes blog, including Pulitzer Prize winners and top leaders from around the world in all kinds of fascinating industries, and today’s guest is no exception. Today’s Finding Brave guest has been thriving in the entertainment industry for many years now, and in this episode, she reveals the lessons that you can take from her life’s journey and apply to all areas of your life to great success. For over thirty years, Siobhan Fallon Hogan has been one of the most iconic and recognizable working character actresses, appearing in blockbuster comedies (Men in Black) as frequently as independents (Dancer in the Dark, Dogville). Now, for the first time, Fallon Hogan is appearing in a lead role, starring as the tortured yet deeply relatable (and often funny) matriarch in the thriller, Rushed, which she wrote and produced. Fallon Hogan’s first role was in Golden Girls, and she has appeared in (or had featured roles in) Saturday Night Live, Seinfeld, Forrest Gump, and many more TV shows and films. Her film Rushed features Fallon Hogan’s friends and family in her hometown of Rumson, New Jersey—and serves as a capstone to one of the most unsung careers in Hollywood. For decades, the talents of character actresses like Fallon Hogan have gone overlooked, which is in part why she decided to write and produce this female-directed (and casted and edited) film. It is the story of Barbara O’Brien (Fallon Hogan), an Irish Catholic mother living in upstate New York who says her rosary daily, then swears profusely as she drives her kids to school. After her life is ruined when her son Jimmy, a college freshman, is involved in a fraternity hazing incident, Barbara resorts to extreme measures. Personally speaking, I found it riveting, relatable and a deeply moving film. Siobhan is someone who has created her own luck through a lot of hard work and a continued, unwavering belief in herself and her talents and abilities, and it was such a pleasure to have her join me for a conversation on this podcast. I’ve so enjoyed Siobhan’s work over the years, and loved her new movie Rushed. We would be thrilled if you’d check out Rushed and let us know how this powerful story resonates with you. It’s a story I believe that all mothers will relate to strongly, as well as those who’ve been through any kind of situation that forced you to do something you’ve never wanted to, and never dreamed you’d have to. To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0266441/

Feb 3, 2022 • 32min
213: (Part 2) How Confidence Is the Key, and How You Can Get It, Build It, and Keep It, with Dr. Nate Zinsser
Thank you for listening to our Finding Brave show, ranked in the Top 100 Apple Career Podcasts! “Confidence is an internal process. It’s all those decisions and all those conclusions you make. It has relatively little to do with what actually goes on in the world, and it has relatively everything to do with what goes on internally in this space between your ears.” - Dr. Nate Zinsser I’m excited to be back for Part 2 in our Finding Brave mini-series on confidence, where my special guest reveals the action steps and mindset shifts needed to overcome obstacles that often get in the way of us building our self-confidence. Dr. Nate Zinsser is an expert in the psychology of human performance who consults for individuals and organizations seeking a competitive edge. Nate’s latest book, The Confident Mind: A Battle-Tested Guide for Unshakable Performance, hit shelves January 2022, and has been endorsed by two-time Super Bowl Champion and MVP Eli Manning, bestselling authors Jon Krakauer and Steven Pressfield, and US Olympic Bobsled Head Coach Mike Kohn. Nate was a regular consultant to the Philadelphia Flyers and New York Giants for twelve seasons and has been a keynote speaker for General Electric, Facebook, McDonald’s, Staples, UBS, Major League Baseball, the NBA, and many more, as well as a consultant for the FBI Academy, the U.S. Army World Class Athlete Program, (mentoring four Olympic medalists), the U.S. Army Recruiting Command, and the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit. Since 1992, he has directed a cutting-edge applied sport psychology program at the United States Military Academy’s Center for Enhanced Performance, personally conducting over seventeen thousand individual training sessions and seven hundred team training sessions for cadets seeking the mental edge for athletic, academic, and military performance. He also helped launch the highly successful magazine Sports Illustrated for Kids and was presented with an American Library Association award for his 1991 children’s book Dear Dr. Psych: A Kid’s Guide to Handling Sports Problems. I truly believe that the work that Nate is doing is necessary for our success and greater wellbeing, and now is the time to make the choice to embrace these methods, follow the principles, and see where they take us. I’ve already incorporated what Nate shared in this conversation into my own life and work, and I would love to hear how you use the tips and strategies he shares to build your own confidence and self-trust in yourself. To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://natezinsser.com/

Jan 27, 2022 • 23min
212: (Part 1) How Confidence Is the Key, and How You Can Get It, Build It, and Keep It, with Dr. Nate Zinsser
Thank you for listening to our Finding Brave show, ranked in the Top 100 Apple Career Podcasts! “Whether you’re on an athletic team, a sales force, or a symphony orchestra, you better be honest about what you think about yourself. What you think about yourself and what you think about all the things that happen day by day, that’s what constitutes your confidence.” - Dr. Nate Zinsser Confidence is a character trait that has relatively little to do with what happens to you, but rather it’s a function of how you think. Today’s Finding Brave guest reveals how you can change your level of confidence, but first you must be aware of certain things. You absolutely can develop confidence for any situation that you care to, and our guest shares the ways that confident performers think differently from the average person in order to do this. Dr. Nate Zinsser is an expert in the psychology of human performance who consults for individuals and organizations seeking a competitive edge. Nate’s latest book, The Confident Mind: A Battle-Tested Guide for Unshakable Performance, hit shelves January 2022, and has been endorsed by two-time Super Bowl Champion and MVP Eli Manning, bestselling authors Jon Krakauer and Steven Pressfield, and US Olympic Bobsled Head Coach Mike Kohn. Nate was a regular consultant to the Philadelphia Flyers and New York Giants for twelve seasons and has been a keynote speaker for General Electric, Facebook, McDonald’s, Staples, UBS, Major League Baseball, the NBA, and many more, as well as a consultant for the FBI Academy, the U.S. Army World Class Athlete Program, (mentoring four Olympic medalists), the U.S. Army Recruiting Command, and the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit. Since 1992, he has directed a cutting-edge applied sport psychology program at the United States Military Academy’s Center for Enhanced Performance, personally conducting over seventeen thousand individual training sessions and seven hundred team training sessions for cadets seeking the mental edge for athletic, academic, and military performance. He also helped launch the highly successful magazine Sports Illustrated for Kids and was presented with an American Library Association award for his 1991 children’s book Dear Dr. Psych: A Kid’s Guide to Handling Sports Problems. I’m beyond excited to bring you the first installment of this special two-part mini-series with Nate on the subject of confidence, and I’ve loved learning from a master on this topic as it’s something that I teach about often in my courses and in my career and leadership coaching. This is an excellent opportunity to learn, grow, and stretch our understanding of confidence, and I’ll see you back here next week for the conclusion of this riveting conversation! To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://natezinsser.com/