

Working Class Audio
Working Class Audio
Peel back the glamour of the professional recording world. Guests from the world of audio for music, film, games, restoration, and more share their insights on how they made their journey, how they survive, their advice on the real things including wins, losses, working with other people, money, and career advice.
Hosted by audio engineer Matt Boudreau.
The Working Class Audio Podcast - Navigating the World of Recording with a working class perspective.
Hosted by audio engineer Matt Boudreau.
The Working Class Audio Podcast - Navigating the World of Recording with a working class perspective.
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Aug 10, 2020 • 1h
WCA #295 with Reto Peter - Starting Over, Green Day, Diversification, Recording Restrictions, Family, and Redefining Success
Reto Peter is a producer/engineer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. Reto has worked with Green Day, Counting Crows, Smash Mouth, Flipsyde and many other artists in his 20 year plus career. He also writes and produces music for television and can be heard on various cable networks and national ad campaigns.In this episode, we discuss:
National Service
Switzerland
Berklee School of Music
The Magic of New York
Starting Over
Green Day
Studio Hierarchy
Paying Dues
3 Year Patterns
Michael Urbano
Diversification
Frugality
Working From Home
Saying No
Counting Crows
Recording Restrictions
Studio Community
Perseverance
Family
Redefining Success
Links and Show Notes
Reto's site: https://smalltunemusic.com/
Blinded by the Light: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blinded_by_the_light_2019
WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP
Credits:
Guest: Reto Peter
Host: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
Additional Music: The License Lab

Aug 3, 2020 • 1h 15min
WCA #294 with McKay Garner - Remote Production, Curveballs and Lemonade, Production Mindset, Community, and Burritos
McKay Garner is a producer, engineer, mixer, multi-instrumentalist, and composer, he has worked on records for artists such as J Dilla, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Mike Shinoda/Linkin Park, Michael Buble, Dead & Company/Mickey Hart, made music in films such as the Transformers movie, in video games, and for television shows such as Total Recall, America’s Next Top Model, Grey’s Anatomy, and many more. He has been fortunate to work as an engineer on projects with amazing producers and engineers such as Rick Rubin, Ariel Rechtshaid, Dana Nielsen, and Ryan Hewitt, among others.After studying music at the University of N.C. School of the Arts, McKay Garner’s career has spanned decades performing in front of countless audiences and creating music in recording studios. McKay is an active member of the Bay Area music scene. As an elected leader volunteer, he served two terms as co-chair of the Producers and Engineers Wing and is an active Board member of the Recording Academy SF Chapter (the Grammys and more), McKay now strives to bring attention to experimental, innovative, and traditional music voices within the industry.In this episode, we discuss:
Remote Production
Residential Rental Recording Spaces
Supportive Spouses
Curveballs and Lemonade
Drummers as Producers/Engineers
LA to SF
Life In LA
Music and Technology
Burritos
Production Mindset
Production Financials
Licensing
Community
Links and Show Notes
McKay's Site: http://mckaygarner.com
McKay on Instagram: @mckayallday
WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP
Credits:
Guest: McKay Garner
Host: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
Additional Music: The License Lab

Jul 27, 2020 • 56min
WCA #293 with Heidi Trefethen - Live Sound, Recording, French Horn, Struggles with The Mormon Church, Session Mindset, Sexism and Learning to Evolve
Heidi Trefethen is a French Hornist, multi-instrumentalist, educator, and sought-after sound engineer, Heidi Trefethen shuttles back and forth across continents frequently, in roles both onstage and off. As a hornist, she has performed in numerous ensembles and venues in Italy, the UK, Bosnia, Thailand, Guatemala, Israel Turkey, and the US, including the LA Philharmonic, the JazzUp Festival in Italy, Cleveland's Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame, San Francisco's Davies Symphony Hall and SFJAZZ's Miner Hall.As a live sound engineer, she has worked with the likes of Shawn Colvin, Meshell N'degeocello, Odetta, Ellis Paul, Joan Baez, Joan Armatrading, Buffy Sainte-Marie, Holly Near, John Stewart of the Kingston Trio, Dar Williams, Al Stewart, Jane Siberry and Lucy Kaplansky, often at the legendary Freight and Salvage in Berkeley, CA. Heidi can be often seen behind the sound boards at SFJAZZ where she was recently recruited as a FOH and A2 engineer. As a recording engineer, she studied at the California Recording Institute’s intensive sound engineering program. An internship at the historic Coast Recorders and a job at Rocket Lab mastering house had her working side-by-side with technical heavyweights John Cuniberti, Dan Alexander and Michael Romanowski. Heidi’s engineering credits include Tammy Hall’s “Blue Soul,” Jessica Jones and Mark Taylor’s “Live at the Freight” 2011, Lucy Kaplansky’s "Kaplansky Sings Kaplanksy," 2000, Michael Burles' currently "Untitled Recording" 2017, Nestler and Hawtin's "Duality" 2014, co-engineered with Bryan Bell, Herbie Hancock’s first engineer, and full production of Anne Rainwater's solo piano recording of Johann Sebastian Bach's Goldberg Variations.In this episode, we discuss:
SF Jazz
French Horn
Freight & Salvage
Teaching
Learning to Evolve
Mentoring
Women's Audio Mission
Covid's Effect
The Audio Pro Advantage
The Importance of Recording & Music
Overdubbing at a Young Age
Education
Open Mic Nights
Live Sounds
Producing
Session Mindset
Communication Style
Struggles w/The Mormon Church
Empathy
Women in Audio
Sexism
Bay Area
Speaking Italian
Making a Living
Not Working for Free
Links and Show Notes
Heidi's Site: www.heiditrefethen.com
Linkedin Profile: https://bit.ly/39ujk1L
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heiditrefethen/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/heiditrefethen
WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP
Credits:
Guest: Heidi Trefethen
Host: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
Additional Music: The License Lab

Jul 20, 2020 • 48min
WCA #292 with Jessica Paz - Manhattan Special, Soda Stream, Theater Sound, Women in Audio, Sound Design, Advocacy and Last Minute Christmas Gifts
Jessica Paz is a Tony Award-winning Sound Designer for theater, film and music. Most recently, she collaborated with Nevin Steinberg on the sound design for Anaïs Mitchell’s acclaimed production of Hadestown, which earned the duo a Tony Award, Drama Desk Award and an Outer Critics Circle nomination.On Broadway, Jessica was an Associate Sound Designer on projects including Dear Evan Hansen, Bandstand, Disaster! The Musical; The Assembled Parties (MCC); and Fela!.Other design credits include Little Shop of Horrors (Westside Theater); Kiss My Aztec (Berkeley Rep); Twelfth Night, Othello, Miss You Like Hell, Julius Caesar, A Midsummer Nights Dream, and As You Like It (The Public Theater); Burn All Night (A.R.T Oberon Stage); Ugly Lies the Bone (Roundabout); A Sucker EmCee, and The Muscles in Our Toes (LAByrinth); The Kings Whore (Starcatcher Productions); Becoming Dr. Ruth (Westside Theater); Looking for the Pony (Vital Theater Co.); Women Beware Women (Red Bull Theater); STRETCH – A Fantasia (New Georges); Welcome to Fear City (KC Rep); Scott & Hem in the Garden of Allah, and See How They Run (Barrington Stage); Legally Blonde, and 9 to 5 The Musical (North Shore Music Theater); Romeo & Juliet, Midsummer Night’s Dream, Othello, and Much Ado About Nothing (Shakespeare on the Sound’s Productions); SCKBSTD (Virginia Stage Co) ; Volcanoes Birthright (Organic Magnetics); TempOdyssey, And Her Hair Went With Her, Bookends, and Minstrel Show (NJ Rep).Jessica has been a Front of House Engineer for musicians including The Preservation Hall Jazz Band, Antibalas, Julia Haltigan, Femi Kuti, Lady Antebellum, Candy Shop Boys, People vs. Larson, Michael Arenetta, Bugaboo, Carte Blanche, King Holiday, The Woes, Stone Cold Fox, The African Children’s Choir and many others. She has also been a Lecturer of Sound Design in addition to student advisor for Princeton Universities production of Next To Normal, and was the Sound Designer of the Actor’s Studio Drama School’s yearly Master’s Thesis productions from 2009 – 2014.Jessica is fascinated by music studio and live concert techniques. She is constantly learning and researching innovative approaches from the traditional music recording world, and bringing them into her theater work. A proud member of IATSE Local 829; Soundgirls.org; Woman’s Audio Mission; USITT; and Co-Chair of the board of the Theatrical Sound Designers and Composers Association. She currently resides in New York. Pizza is her favorite food group. In this episode, we discuss:
Manhattan Special
Theater Sound
Broadway/Off Broadway
Theater Sound Design
System Design
Audio Teams
Audio Roles
Mentors
Large Budgets
Network Audio
Rain vs. Audio
Women in Audio
Theater vs. Club Sound
Union Rules
Money
Passion for Audio
Past Jobs
Trying to Leave Audio
Advocacy
Links and Show Notes:
Jessica’s site: http://www.jessicapazdesigns.com/
TSDCA.: https://tsdca.org/
USITT: https://www.usitt.org/
Soundgirls: https://soundgirls.org/
Women's Audio Mission: https://womensaudiomission.org/
Monologue Link to Velcro Strips: https://amzn.to/2BcrMG6
WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP
Credits:
Guest: Jessica Paz
Host: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
Additional Music: The License Lab

Jul 13, 2020 • 59min
WCA #291 with Greg Gordon - Great Landlords, Glee Club, Relationships, Early Days of Internet Audio, Online Mentorship, Pyramind, and the Letter I
Greg Gordon is a the Founder/Director at PYRAMIND.com, as well as a producer, educator, and entrepreneur. Greg has worked with HTC Vive, Microsoft Studios, Insomniac Games, SONY, Electronic Arts, Ubisoft, Disney, Blizzard, Zynga, Amazon, Samsung, HP, Nvidia, GoPro, LifeBeam, The Battery SF, Brandcast and many more. His music production credits include Rob Garza (Thievery Corporation), Giorgio Moroder, K Theory, Rain Phutureprimitive, The Bronx, Merl Saunders & Jerry Garcia (The Grateful Dead) and Rocker T & Joan Baez.In this episode, we discuss:
Relationships
Great Landlords
Glee Club
Early Days of Internet Audio
Game Soundtracks
The Letter I
The History of Pyramind
Downsizing
Online Mentorship
Links and Show Notes:
Pyramind: https://pyramind.com/
Pyramind Studios: https://studios.pyramind.com/
Pyramind Online: https://online.pyramind.com/
Pyramind Records: www.pyramindrecords.com
BAVC: https://bavc.org/
GoFundMe for Damion Gallegos: https://www.gofundme.com/f/damion039s-healing-fund
WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP
Credits:
Guest: Greg Gordon
Host: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
Additional Music: The License Lab

Jul 6, 2020 • 1h 3min
WCA #290 with Joe Chiccarelli - Frank Zappa, Producing, Psychology, Budgets, Learning From Others, Sharing Knowledge, and The Tonelux Mic Collaboration
Joe Chiccarelli is a ten-time Grammy and Latin Grammy Award-winning producer/engineer/mixer whose credits include such artists as Tori Amos, Beck, U2, The Strokes, The Killers, Elton John, The Shins, The White Stripes, Morrissey, Alanis Morrisette, Jason Mraz, Juanes, Julieta Venegas, The Raconteurs, Cafe Tacuba, and My Morning Jacket. Other projects through his twenty-year career have included music supervision of films such as Suicide Kings and Men with Guns, the TV series Cracker and Robert Altman’s The Gun. Joe is the studio designer for the state-of-the-art Royaltone Recording Studios (now Sphere) in Burbank, CA, and has served as an A&R consultant for several major and independent labels.In this episode, we discuss:
Matt & Joe's Connection
Frank Zappa
Roy Thomas Baker
Joe's Approach to Producing
Inexperienced Managers
Psychology
Handling Disagreements
Fresh Perspectives
Working in Multiple Genres
Mix with the Masters
Getting the Most Out Of a Budget
Learning From Others
Sharing Knowledge
The Tonelux Mic Collaboration
Planning the Year
Links and Show Notes:
Joe's website: https://www.joechiccarelli.com/
The Tonelux JC37: https://bit.ly/2VMuhGe
WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP
Credits:
Guest: Joe Chiccarelli
Host: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
Additional Music: The License Lab

Jun 29, 2020 • 1h
WCA #289 with George Vlad - The Draw of the Outdoors, Field Recording, Ecology, Adventure, Bribes, and Bees
George Vlad is a sound recordist, photographer and expedition leader with a keen interest in wildlife and conservation. George travels extensively and records a variety of sounds, from natural ambiences and wildlife to odd vehicles and vintage aircraft. He also supports a variety of conservation initiatives around the world, either directly, by sharing my work with them or by employing them in my travels. When he's not traveling George works as a sound designer and composer for video games from his studio in Southern England. His audio work is heard by millions of players every month.In this episode, we discuss:
Languages
Burning Out
The Draw of the Outdoors
The Listening Experience
Travel
Ecology
The language of Birds
Field Recording Technique
Trip Planning
Man Made Sounds
Threat of Extinction
Recording Attention
Bribes
Fear
Adventure
Fixers
Packing
Bees
Experience vs ROI
Sound Libraries
Sound Design
Game Sound Implementation
Links and Show Notes:
Make Time Book: https://amzn.to/2ZcIOMb
George on YouTube: https://bit.ly/2A1TEfw
George's Site #1: Mindful-Audio.com
George's Site #2 Georgevlad.com
George on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/georgevlad
Portfolio at https://www.game-sounds.com/projects
WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP
Credits:
Guest: George Vlad
Host: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
Additional Music: The License Lab

Jun 22, 2020 • 53min
WCA #288 with Jens Bogren - Chaos Theory, Working in Metal, Psychology, Banks, Sports Fishing and, Motion Sickness
Jens Bogren is a Swedish record producer, mixer and recording engineer who has worked Opeth, Sepultura, Katatonia and a long list of many other bands.In this episode, we discuss:
Working in Metal
Banks
Studio Naming
Building A New Studio
Sports Fishing
Motion Sickness
Chaos Theory
Bogren Digital
Trail of Luck
Determining What to Charge
Managers
Psychology of Showreels
Psychology of Production Work
Leadership
Surround Sound Work
Links and Show Notes:
Bogren Digital: https://bogrendigital.com/
Fascination Street Studios: https://www.fascinationstreet.se/
Jens on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jensbogren/?hl=en
Jens on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jbogren?lang=en
Atomic Habits: https://amzn.to/37ZCHPv
WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP
Credits:
Guest: Jens Bogren
Host: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
Additional Music: The License Lab

Jun 15, 2020 • 59min
WCA #287 with Nacho Molino - Panama, The Noriega Years, Bilingual Advantage, 15 year US immigration process and, Responsible Grammy Voting
Ignacio "Nacho" Molino is a five-time Grammy and Latin Grammy award-winning Mix Engineer/Producer. He has worked with CJ Ramone from The Ramones, Spice Slawson from Me First and The Gimmie Gimmies, Ruben Blades, Joan Manuel Serrat, and Carlos Vives.In this episode, we discuss:
Growing up in Panama
The Noriega Years
Civil War
Distance Learning
15 year US immigration process
Marriage/Divorce
Working in different Genres
SNOW!!!
Bilingual Advantage
Regional Rate Strategies
Central America
Responsible Grammy Voting
Links and Show Notes:
Nacho's Site: https://www.nachomolino.com/
Michael Jordan Documentary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Dance_(TV_series)
WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP
Credits:
Guest: Nacho Molino
Host: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
Additional Music: The License Lab

Jun 8, 2020 • 47min
WCA #286 with Cullen Brooks - Music to Film Sound, Star Wars, Michigan, Recording Punk bands, Division of Labor and Disruptive Clients
Cullen Brooks works in television & film as a dialogue editor, re-recording mixer, sound designer, sound editor, Sound Effects Editor, and Sound Mixer.In this episode, we discuss:
Transitioning from Music to Film Sound
The Impact of Star Wars & the Matrix
Recording Punk bands
Learning Film Sound
Jumping in With Both Feet
Working Remotely
Disruptive Clients
New York
Michigan
Lost Tax Incentives
Division of Labor
Terms
Business
Work Ethic
Watching Your Mouth
Getting More Work
How to Use Social Media
Links and Show Notes:
Cullen on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cullenbrooks/
Cullen on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mrbrooksmixing
Cullen on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrbrooksmixing/
Making Waves Movie: https://amzn.to/2A6Uqb6
The end of Tax credits for Films in Michigan: https://bit.ly/2MG5JK1
WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio
Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/
Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/
Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw
Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP
Credits:
Guest: Cullen Brooks
Host: Matt Boudreau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau
Additional Music: The License Lab


