

Working Class Audio
Working Class Audio
The Working Class Audio Podcast pulls back the curtain on the professional recording world. Host and audio engineer Matt Boudreau talks with guests from music, film, games, restoration, and beyond—diving into their real-world journeys. No fluff, just honest conversations about the wins, losses, money, collaboration, and survival strategies that define a career in audio. It's recording life from a working class perspective.
Episodes
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Feb 27, 2023 • 1h
WCA #428 with J Clark - Headbangers Ball, Punk Rock, Touring, ATMOS, Kenny G, and The Clarinet Incident
My guest is Mixer J Clark, who has mixed for Madame Gandhi, Elle King, Cautious Clay, and Jennifer Lopez. J is also a member of the Infrasonic Sound team. In this episode, we discuss
Born in Indiana
Minneapolis
Seattle
Headbangers Ball
Skateboarding
Touring
Kenny G
The Clarinet Incident
American Punk Rock
Playing in Bands
Recording School
Post Production
Sound Design
ATMOS & Sony 360
Short Sightedness
Working for Infrasonic
Work/Life Balance
Finances
Matt's Rant: Keeping Your CoolLinks and Show Notes
J's Site
J on Instagram
J at Infrasonic
Credits
Guest: J Clark
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Feb 20, 2023 • 1h 2min
WCA #427 with Brett Bullion - BC/AC, MAX Msp, Remote Mixing, Expectations, and the Minneapolis Music Scene
My guest is Producer / Mixer Brett Bullion, who has worked with The Bad Plus, Margaret Glaspy, Low, and Bad Bad Hats. This is Brett's second appearance on the show; he originally appeared on WCA #147. In this episode, we discuss
Home Mix Room
Before Covid/After Covid (BC/AC)
Acoustics
Treatment vs. Sound Proofing
Getting Work
Max MSP
Playing Games
The Finances of Audio
Career
Management
Minneapolis Music Scene
Traveling for Work
MWTM
Emulation
Budgets
Expectations
Remote Mixing
Deep Glenns
In the Box vs. Out of the Box
Buying Habits
Matt's Rant: TransparencyLinks and Show Notes
Brett's Deep Glenns Project
The Money Book
Brett's Site
Credits
Guest: Brett Bullion
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Feb 13, 2023 • 1h 16min
WCA #426 with Pete Droge - Seattle Punk Rock, Boombox Multitracking, Investing in Career, Diversifying in all Directions, and Staying Mellow
My guest is Producer/Engineer, Singer-Songwriter & Media Composer Pete Droge. Pete has had a diverse career as a solo artist and producer, working with Stone Gossard of Pearl Jam and Chris Ballew of The Presidents of the United States of America. He's had movie cameos and hit songs. Produced, engineered, and mixed national broadcast ads. Composed, produced, engineered, and mixed scores for three feature films and several shorts, including Sam Jones' "Miles to Go Before I Sleep" for Showtime. He's also had Film and TV placements, including Dumb & Dumber, Zomblieland, Grey's Anatomy, Nashville, and many more. He's also a member of the band The Thorns with Matthew Sweet and Shawn Mullins.In this episode, we discuss
Cassette Machines
Moving Around
Dad's Group Homes
Washington State
Piano Lessons
Guitar
March of Crimes
Seattle Punk Rock
25th Hour
Mellow Vibe
Going Solo
Boombox Multitracking
Mike and Stone from Pearl Jam
Brendan O'Brien
Comping
Learning Recording as an Artist
Southern Tracks
Surviving
How Music is Made
Playing to the Venue
Doing Well
Producing
Building a Studio
Investing in Career
Moving into Audio
Arrangement vs. Mixing
Working on Commercials
Diversifying
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Meditating
Matt's Rant: AutomationLinks and Show Notes
Zapier
Typeform
Calendly
Pete on Letterman
Pete's Site
Substack
Credits
Guest: Pete Droge
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Feb 6, 2023 • 50min
WCA #425 with Evan Bakke - Power Station New England, Minneapolis Suburbs, Working with Fluff, Working for Prince, and Recording in Che Guevara's House
My guest is Engineer/Mixer Evan Bakke, who is the chief engineer and studio manager at Power Station New England. Evan has worked with Jake Huffman, Prince, Chuck Leah, and Sam Nitsch.In this episode, we discuss
Minneapolis Suburbs
Production School
Working with Fluff
Jim Scott Influence
Living in His Car
Bouncing Around
Moving to Bolivia
Recording in Che Guevara's House
Trying out Nashville
Working for Prince
Power Station New England
Studio Manager Duties
Recording in Connecticut
Work/Life Balance
Matt's Rant: CollectivesLinks and Show Notes
Evan's Site
Power Station New England
Credits
Guest: Evan Bakke
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Jan 30, 2023 • 1h 8min
WCA #424 with Kevin Paul - Pirate Radio, Getting into the Chair, Working with Nick Cave, Knowing Your Value, and Revamping Audio Education
My guest is Producer/Mixing/Mastering Engineer Kevin Paul who has worked with Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, David Bowie, Depeche Mode, Goldfrapp, and Paul Simon.In this episode, we discuss
Growing up in London
Pirate Radio
Hip Hop Culture
DJing
Learning Signal Flow
Working for a Sleaze Bag
Konk Studios
Lesson Learned
Working Long Hours
Cooking Analogies
Mute
Archiving
Boy to Man
Getting into the Chair
Working with Nick Cave
Working at Abbey Road
Surround Mixing
Working Remote
Education Work
Kevin's Podcast
Mixing Challenging Tracks
Knowing Your Value
UK Studio Health
Revamping Audio Education
Matt's Rant: Freelance ChallengesLinks and Show Notes
Kevin's Podcast
Kevin's Website
Kevin's School
Credits
Guest: Kevin Paul
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Jan 23, 2023 • 1h 59min
WCA #423 with "Greazy" Wil Anspach - Iraq War, Marine Corp, Purple Heart, Working at East West, Communication, and Those Tik Tok Posts
My guest is Producer/Engineer, Marine Corps veteran, and Purple Heart recipient "Greazy" Wil Anspach. Will has worked with Killer Mike, Jon Batiste, Vic Mensa, Zach de la Rocha. In this episode, we discuss
Coal Mining Grandfather
Musical Mixtures
John, The Piano Player
Marine Corp
Military Training
Iraq War
The Slow Mover Award
Progressive Metal Band
Meth Head Engineer
Selling Tibetan Rugs
CRAS
Having a Child
East West History
Interviewing for an Internship
Working at East West
80 Hours a Week
Marriage and Divorce
Impact of The Marine Corp
Making Mistakes
Working Freelance
Robert Caranza
Personalities in Rap and Rock
Stepping Outside
Communication
Those Tik Tok Posts
The Role of Tracking
Matt's Rant: Keeping Your House in OrderLinks and Show Notes
Wil on Tik Tok
Wil's Website
Wil on Instagram
Credits
Guest: "Greazy" Wil Anspach
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Jan 16, 2023 • 51min
WCA #422 with Mat Leffler-Schulman - The Bartender Analogy, Handling Money, Flooded Basements, Analog Mastering, and Oblique Strategies
My guest is Mat Leffler-Schulman, a mastering engineer based out of Baltimore, Maryland, who has worked with Jon Batiste, will.i.am, Blondie, Gipsy Kings, The National Symphony Orchestra, and Ice Cube.In this episode, we discuss
Flooded Basements
DC Suburbs
Running a Studio
Spousal Business Partner
MTSU
Handling Money
Business Entities
Errors and Omissions
Row House Studio
Moving Overseas
The Finances of Remote Work
Moving to Mastering
The Bartender Analogy
Analog Mastering
Working from Home
Word of Mouth
Oblique Strategies
Mastering Process
Rates
Likes and Dislikes of Pro Audio
Work/Life Balance
Matt's Rant: Holding the LineLinks and Show Notes
Mat's Site
Oblique Strategies
Credits
Guest: Mat Leffler-Schulman
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Jan 9, 2023 • 60min
WCA #421 with Raelynn Janicke - Mastering and Managing, New York Hardcore, Absorbing New Info, Being a Good Hang, Staying Healthy, and Communication
My guest is Raelynn Janicke, a mastering engineer and studio manager for Infrasonic in Nashville. Raelynn has worked with The Shins, Hematite, J.R. Carroll, Kayla Hall, Talia Stewart, and Bazookatooth. In this episode, we discuss
Growing up in Selkirk, NY
New York Hardcore
Alto Sax
Church
Moving to Boston
Computer Science
Crying in The Bathroom
A Capella
Moving to Nashville
Bartending
Reid Shippen
Getting Hired by Infrasonic
Mastering and Managing
Running a Mastering Facility
Absorbing New Info
Traffic Cop
Being Nice to People
Being a Good Hang
Communication
Client Focus
Billing Practices in Mastering
Work/Life Balance
Staying Healthy
Matt's Rant: Personal Check InLinks and Show Notes
Infrasonic Sound
The Sextants on Bandcamp
Limitless with Chris Hemsworth
Credits
Guest: Raelynn Janicke
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Jan 2, 2023 • 1h 24min
WCA #420 with Hugh Padgham Part 2- Approach to Production, Gearbox Records, The Analog Sound, The Excess of the '80s, and Not Cutting Corners
My guest is Grammy Winning Producer Hugh Padgham who has worked with Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Sting, Genesis, The Police, XTC, and David Bowie. He's also well known for THE Gated Drum Sound on "In The Air Tonight." This is Part 2 of a 2-part interview.In this episode, we discuss
Approach to Production
Steve Lillywhite
Trust in Management
Producer Differences
The Excess of the '80s
Comparing Eras of Recording
Superior Drummer
Budgets of Old
Mixing Workflow
Hugh's Jazz Label
Gearbox Records
The Analog Sound
Thelonious Monk
Buddy Rich
The Momentum of Recording
Digital Recorders
Recording Sting
The iPod's Effect
Home Studio Phase
PIL Metal Box
Not Cutting Corners
Finances for the Future
Divorce
Giving Back
Matt's Rant: Saying YesLinks and Show Notes
Hugh's Site
Gearbox Records
Hugh's Drum Pack for Superior Drummer
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Credits
Guest: Hugh Padgham
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith

Dec 25, 2022 • 1h 12min
WCA #419 with Hugh Padgham Part 1- Jingles, Recorders without Counters, Miles Copeland, Townhouse Studios, and THE Gated Drum Sound
My guest is Grammy Winning Producer Hugh Padgham who has worked with Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Sting, Genesis, The Police, XTC, and David Bowie. He's also well known for THE Gated Drum Sound on "In The Air Tonight."In this episode, we discuss
Buckinghamshire Upbringing
Boarding School in Oxford
Led Zeppelin 1
Pipe Organ Building
Writing Studio Letters
Recorders without Counters
Working on Jingles
Getting Fired
Pie Studios
Lansdowne Studios
Virgin Records
Manor Studios
Townhouse Studios
SSL
NAB vs. CCIR
Getting into Production
Peter Gabriel
Steve Lillywhite
Phil Collins
XTC
THE Gated Drum Sound
Management
The Police and Miles Copeland
Points and Royalties
Non-Featured Artists
Residential Studio Hell
Matt's Rant: AdaptingLinks and Show Notes
Hugh's Site
Please leave us a 5 Star Review!
Credits
Guest: Hugh Padgham
Host: Matt Boudreau
Engineer: Matt Boudreau
Producer: Matt Boudreau
Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau
WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell
Announcer: Chuck Smith