The Talk Show With John Gruber

Nilay Patel returns to the show to discuss this week’s House antitrust hearing featuring testimony from Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos, Sundar Pichai, and Mark Zuckerberg. Sponsored by: Linode: Instantly deploy and manage an SSD server in the Linode Cloud. New accounts get a $20 credit with code talkshow20. Mint Mobile: Cut your wireless bill to $15 a month and get your new plan shipped to your door free. Stitch Fix: A personal styling company that makes getting the clothes you love effortless. Save 25% when you keep everything in your Fix. Links: Full 5.5-hour video of the hearing. Casey Newton at The Verge: “Overdue, messy, and unsatisfying — but also a necessary part of a hugely important conversation”. Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) and famed character actor M. Emmet Walsh, who was born to play him. Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) grilling Jeff Bezos on anti-competitive business practices at Amazon. Lina M. Khan: “Amazon’s Antitrust Paradox”. Seminal paper published in The Yale Law Journal in 2017. The Verge on the 2010 emails between Phil Schiller, Eddy Cue, and Steve Jobs that set the rules that keep Amazon from selling Kindle books in their iOS app. Tim Wu’s The Curse of Bigness. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest Christina Warren joins the show. Topics include the App Store and antitrust, the general crumminess of video streaming service UIs, and historical examples of when Apple gets something wrong. Sponsored by: Mack Weldon: Reinventing men’s basics with smart design, premium fabrics, and simple shopping. Get 20% off your first order with code talkshow. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Raycon: The next wave in wireless audio. Save 15% with this URL and code talkshow. Links: Steven Levy on the G4 Cube’s 20th anniversary. Me on the Cube and lessons learned. Report commissioned by Apple comparing the App Store to other “digital marketplaces”. Rolling Stone TV Critic Alan Sepinwall: “Who Loses Big in the Great Streaming Wars? The User”. Jason Snell pointing out that even the playback UIs stink for a lot of streaming apps. Jonathan Mann on Apple (Steve Jobs) deciding to use his “Antennagate Song” to open their emergency press conference. From the DF Archive: “Antennagate Bottom Line”. “The Innocence Files” — outstanding series on Netflix documenting the work of the Innocence Project, which works to free those convicted of crimes they didn’t commit. Rocket — Weekly podcast hosted by Christina, Simone de Rochefort, and Brianna Wu. Christina on Twitter. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Adam Lisagor returns to the show. Topics include the cinematic and presentation style of Apple’s WWDC keynote, some post-production details on The Talk Show’s WWDC episode, the tribulations of producing professional videos during COVID-19, and the new sounds of MacOS 11 Big Sur. Sponsored by: Atoms Everyday Face Mask: Multiple sizes, multiple colors. Breathable, washable, and reusable. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Feals: Premium CBD delivered directly to your doorstep. Get 50% off your first order with free shipping. Linode: Instantly deploy and manage an SSD server in the Linode Cloud. New accounts get a $20 credit with code talkshow20. Links: Big Sur alerts. Big Sur system sounds. Prank with a loud computer startup chime in a crowded library. Sandwich’s conceived/shot/produced in quarantine video for Slack — working from home to make a video about working from home. The Talk Show Remote From WWDC 2020. Apple’s video with Craig Federighi introducing the iPad Magic Keyboard back in March, a precursor to the WWDC video style. My eve-of-keynote guess that WWDC’s keynote would look like that Magic Keyboard intro video. Apple’s old iTunes “Rip Mix Burn” commercial set in an empty theater. Steve Jobs introducing the G4 Cube at Macworld New York in 2000. Adam’s delightfully thoughtful thread on face masks. John Oliver’s Last Week Tonight on coronavirus conspiracy theories. Mat Honan back in 2012 on how and why he got hacked. California King — the reboot of You Look Nice Today. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Dan Frommer returns to the show for more analysis of WWDC 2020, including App Clips and the Mac’s transition to Apple silicon. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Feals: Premium CBD delivered directly to your doorstep. Get 50% off your first order with free shipping. Linode: Instantly deploy and manage an SSD server in the Linode Cloud. New accounts get a $20 credit with code talkshow20. Links: Dan at The New Consumer: “Why Apple’s New ‘App Clips’ Matter”. WWDC 2020 sessions on App Clips. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest Matthew Panzarino joins the show to talk about WWDC 2020. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Hello Fresh: With America’s #1 meal kit, get easy, seasonal recipes and pre-measured ingredients delivered right to your door. All you have to do is cook and enjoy. Links: Panzarino's interview with Phil Schiller on Hey's rejection from the App Store. “The Talk Show Remote From WWDC 2020, With Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak”. Apple’s WWDC 2020 keynote. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

John Gruber is joined by Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak to discuss the news from WWDC 2020: the Mac’s transition to Apple silicon, MacOS 11 Big Sur, iOS and iPadOS 14, and more. Video of this show is available on YouTube. Sponsored by: Fantastical Premium: Your new work from home companion. 14-day free trial and 20% off your first purchase (up to a one-year subscription). Kolide: For fast growing companies that want to secure Mac, Windows, and Linux devices. Coming soon: MDM completely rethought, that puts the user first. Sign up now. ScrumCenter: Focus, innovate, and deliver -- take the next step on your Agile journey. Save 20% on all courses with promo code “TTS”. Links: The WWDC 2020 Keynote. Apple announces Mac transition to Apple silicon. MacOS 11 Big Sur — new UI and all-new Catalyst-based version of Messages. iOS 14 — home screen widgets and app clips. And, finally, incoming phone call notifications don’t take over your entire screen. iPadOS 14 — new handwriting features with Apple Pencil. WatchOS 7 — watch face sharing, sleep tracking, and hand-washing detection. The audio version of this episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Ben Thompson returns to the show and there’s no sports talk because there’s no sports. Instead: temperature scales, Joe Rogan and Spotify, and Dithering. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Linode: Instantly deploy and manage an SSD server in the Linode Cloud. Use code talkshow20 and get $20 credit toward your next project. Yes Plz: Brew yourself the best coffee. Try Yes Plz today and save $5 with code fireball5. Links: Dithering. Ben at Stratechery: “Dithering and Open Versus Free.” Me at DF: “Dithering” and “More on Dithering”. Me at Macworld back in 2010: “It’s the heaviness of the Mac that allows iOS to remain light.” This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest Adam Engst joins the show to celebrate 30 years of TidBITS -- the only publication going strong today that started as a weekly HyperCard stack. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Linode: Instantly deploy and manage an SSD server in the Linode Cloud. Get a server running in seconds with your choice of Linux distro, resources, and choice of 10 node locations. Feals: Premium CBD delivered directly to your doorstep. Get 50% off your first order with free shipping. Links: Adam Engst: “TidBITS Marks Its 30th Anniversary in a Time of Pandemic”. “Info-Mac is a discussion forum for Apple users as well as an archive of online content dating back to 1984.” The Mac compression wars: Raymond Lau’s StuffIt vs. Bill Goodman’s Compact Pro. I was a Compact Pro man, myself. The official Compact Pro website is, amazingly, still up. TidBITS issue 42, 11 February 1991: “Compression Wars”. That’s right, 1991. TidBITS’s coverage of MacHack over the years. My 1994 letter to Andy Ihnatko’s Help Desk column in MacUser magazine. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Dieter Bohn joins the show to talk about the iPad Magic Keyboard, the new iPhone SE, and the state of Android flagship phones. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Linode: Instantly deploy and manage an SSD server in the Linode Cloud. Get a server running in seconds with your choice of Linux distro, resources, and choice of 10 node locations. Links: Dieter’s review of the iPad Magic Keyboard. My review of the iPad Magic Keyboard. Dieter’s review of the iPhone SE. My review of the new iPhone SE. Dieter’s review of the OnePlus 8 Pro. Samsung Galaxy S20 and S20 Ultra reviews. Federico Vittici’s Shortcuts shortcut for jumping to the Hardware Keyboard section of Settings. Dr. Drang’s pre-shipping estimates of the iPad Magic Keyboard weights. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Joanna Stern returns to the show to talk about working from home, the utter suckitude of laptop webcams, the new MacBook Air, and Face ID in our new world of face-mask-wearing. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Feals: Premium CBD delivered directly to your doorstep. Get 50% off your first order with free shipping. Eero: The Wi-Fi your home deserves. Use code thetalkshow for free overnight shipping with this link. Links: Joanna’s “How to Make an iPad Stand” video. Joanna’s review of the new Macbook Air, and her video on the state of laptop webcams. My review of the new MacBook Air. Joanna’s column (and video) on Face ID’s inability to recognize us while wearing face masks. Joanna’s iPhone X review from 2017, wherein she tried to fool Face ID with 3D-printed faces. Yours truly back in August 2017: “Safari Should Display Favicons in Its Tabs”. WWDC 2018: Apple announces favicons in Safari tabs. Webcams Have Become Impossible to Find, and Prices Are Skyrocketing”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.