

Evangelicalish
Evangelicalish
Weekly Livestreams on YouTube on Wed nights at 9pm Eastern/6pm Pacific with hosts Ashley Swearengin and @UnconventionalPastorPaul, Paul Swearengin. She served as mayor of a city, Paul was an evangelical pastor. Together, they were deep in the middle of the rise of Christian nationalism.
Come join us as we discussing a spirituality that reaches beyond the walls of a church building and connects deconstructing people of faith to a renewed identity and a beautiful connection to divine love and goodness. We would love you to join us so we can all grow together in community.
Come join us as we discussing a spirituality that reaches beyond the walls of a church building and connects deconstructing people of faith to a renewed identity and a beautiful connection to divine love and goodness. We would love you to join us so we can all grow together in community.
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May 14, 2024 • 1h 15min
Taking Off the Tinfoil Hat: Conspiracies in Christianity
Cynane Shay of Taking off the Tinfoil Hat joins April and Paul for a chat about conspiracy theories within evangelicalism.
Cynane is a nuclear engineer living in South Carolina. Her childhood in White Christian Nationalism (Florida-style) normalized conspiracy theories like Obama Birtherism and the Biblical apocalypse; but 2020, with COVID and Qanon, finally made her realize something was deeply wrong.
Now Cynane is writing a book, “Taking Off the Tinfoil Hat: How Lizard People and Space Lasers Dismantled my Christian Worldview,” to process the deconstruction of her fundamentalist evangelicalism and her propagandistic patriotism. Losing loved ones to the pandemic was a tragedy, but losing loved ones to the rabbit hole was its own tragedy and Cynane needed to understand the “why.” So from Flat Earth to the IBLP cult to Jewish space lasers, she pulled the thread, cracked her faith, and found the inseparable link between cults, conspiracy theories, and American White Christian Nationalism. TakingOffTheTinfoilHat.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.

May 9, 2024 • 1h 8min
The History of Christian Zionism
April and Paul talk with historian Daniel Hummel on the history of Christian Zionism: what it is, how it started, who espouses it and the harm it causes today.
Daniel G. Hummel is the Director of The Lumen Center in Madison, WI and a research fellow in the History Department at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He received his PhD in American history from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and has been a research fellow at the Institute for Research in the Humanities and the Harvard Kennedy School at Harvard University. He is the author of two books: Covenant Brothers: Evangelicals, Jews, and U.S.-Israel Relations and The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle Over the End Times Shaped a Nation.
Keep up with Daniel's work:
www.danielghummel.com
Get his latest book titled The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle Over the End Times Shaped a Nation.
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.

Apr 24, 2024 • 57min
Becoming a Guncle : From Publicly Outed to Proudly Out with Jonathan Merritt
Author and award-winning columnist Jonathan Merritt joins Paul and April to discuss his journey from being publicly outed to being proudly out and his new children's book My Guncle and Me. He also talks about his own faith, his relationship with his pastor parents and his inspiration to write My Guncle and Me.
Buy the book: www.myguncleandme.com
Connect with Jonathan's work. www.jonathanmerritt.com
Follow Jonathan: @JonathanMerritt
Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & X: @evangelicalish, @aprilajoy @unconventionalpastorpaul,
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.

Apr 18, 2024 • 1h 18min
Hell is a World Without You - Growing up Evangelical
Jason Kirk joins Paul and April for a fun conversation about growing up evangelical. Jason is the author of the funny ex-vangelical novel Hell Is A World Without You and co-host of Vacation Bible School — a podcast with his wife, Emily.
We also react to clips of Pastor Mark Driscoll and the drama he caused at the Stronger Men's Conference this past weekend.
Get Jason Kirk's novel: https://www.jasonkirk.fyi/p/novel
Follow Jason: @JasonKirk_fyi
Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & X: @evangelicalish, @aprilajoy @unconventionalpastorpaul,
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.

Apr 11, 2024 • 1h 11min
Deconstructing "Traditional" Marriage
Dr. Dana Hicks, author of The Knot, joins April and Paul for a discussion about new ways to think about marriage. Dana has researched marriage and divorce, and lived through both himself, even when he was a pastor. His conclusion? There's got to be a better way than what some call "biblical" marriage.
Get connected with Dana's work: danahicks.blog
Get his book: The Knot: How to Secure Healthy, Modern Relationships While Not Being Tied to Marriage's Past
Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & X: @evangelicalish, @aprilajoy @unconventionalpastorpaul,
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.

Apr 1, 2024 • 1h 5min
1946: The Biblical Mistranslation That Shifted Culture
Is it true the word "homosexual" was never in any version of the Bible until 1946? And, if so, how did it get into so many different english translations? Rocky Roggio, Director of the movie 1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture, joins April and Paul again to discuss their groundbreaking documentary, the heart behind and how to watch it now.
To watch and learn more about the film visit: www.1946themovie.com
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & X: @evangelicalish, @aprilajoy @unconventionalpastorpaul
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.

Mar 21, 2024 • 1h 26min
Disruptive, Authentic, Inclusive: Pastor Kristian A. Smith
April and Paul talk with Kristian Smith, a pastor and host of the Holy Smokes: Cigars and Spirituality Podcast. Kristian identifies as a Spiritual Humanist and is doing great work in the deconstruction space. In this episode, he discusses his journey to becoming LGBTQ affirming, White evangelicalism, the Black church and being a Spiritual Humanist. We also react to some Evangelicringe videos.
Get connected with Kristian's work:
www.holysmokesmovement.com
Follow Kristian online: @thekristianasmith
Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & X: @evangelicalish, @aprilajoy @unconventionalpastorpaul,
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.

Mar 14, 2024 • 1h 17min
You Will Always Belong: Matthew Paul Turner
Renowned children's book author Matthew Paul Turner joins April and Paul to talk about his journey to being an openly gay Christian man and the impact his own embrace of authenticity has had on the books he writes.
Get his latest book: You Will Always Belong
Follow Matthew on social media: @matthewpaulturner
Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & X: @evangelicalish, @aprilajoy @unconventionalpastorpaul,
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.

Mar 7, 2024 • 1h 22min
The New Evangelicals, Super Tuesday & The Election
Tim Whitaker joins Paul and April to talk about what it means to be a new evangelical and why he started his nonprofit The New Evangelicals. We also discuss the white evangelical affect on the election, Super Tuesday and why Trump is still the chosen one. Then we react to videos in our new segment Evangelicringe.
Follow Tim and TNE @thenewevangelicals or visit their website: thenewevangelicals.com
Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & X: @evangelicalish, @aprilajoy @unconventionalpastorpaul,
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.

Feb 29, 2024 • 1h 20min
Fearfully and Wonderfully Weird: Journey to Emotional Wellness
Trigger Warning: This episode contains stories of sexual abuse and thoughts of self-harm.
Over a year ago, Jenna of the Gianu System, appeared on an ISH episode to share about her journey with Dissociative Identity Disorder (D.I.D. - formerly known as multiple personality disorder) and saw some familiar things in Paul as she shared. Jenna joins us as Paul shares about their own diagnosis and wellness journey into a world of learning about self and all the parts that make us.
Follow Jenna: @Gianusystem
Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & X: @evangelicalish, @aprilajoy @unconventionalpastorpaul,
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.