
Conversing with Mark Labberton
Conversing with Mark Labberton invites listeners into transformative encounters with leaders and creators shaping our world at the intersection of Christian faith, culture, and public life.
Latest episodes

Oct 31, 2023 • 57min
148 - Formation and Resiliency in Law Enforcement, with Luann Pannell
Luann Pannell discusses mental health and training in law enforcement and shares about her two decades of work with the Los Angeles Police Department. Luann Pannell is a Fuller alum, CEO of Exceptional Edge Consulting, and was director of police training and education at the LAPD for 18 years.

Oct 17, 2023 • 50min
147 - The Urgent Work of Radical Belonging, with Ben McBride
Ben McBride talks with Mark about his new book, Troubling the Water: The Urgent Work of Radical Belonging, which outlines his journey and work in the “kill zone” in Oakland, CA. Ben McBride is a visionary leader of radical belonging. The co-founder of the Empower Initiative, a capacity-building firm devoted to empowering organizations and communities, he is a leading expert in fostering belonging and public safety reform.

Oct 3, 2023 • 45min
146 - The Rhythms of Church Life, with Chris Henry
Chris Henry talks about the importance of rhythm in the church year and about leadership in a post-pandemic world. Chris Henry is senior pastor of Second Presbyterian Church in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Sep 19, 2023 • 38min
145 - Artificial Intelligence and Faith, with David Brenner
David Brenner, board chair of AI and Faith, discusses ethical questions in artificial intelligence, including control issues, loss of agency, and the impact on Eastern and Western religions. They explore the positive aspects of AI in the faith community and the intersection of AI, faith, and justice, addressing biases in algorithms. The podcast emphasizes merging conversations about AI and faith for positive change guided by ancient wisdom.

Sep 5, 2023 • 47min
144 - Developing Artificial Intelligence, with Phil Chen
Phil Chen discusses the development of AI and the ethics of sourcing material for large language models. Topics include Siri's natural language processing, addictive nature of mobile phones and social media, augmented reality and Apple's newest device, ethical dimensions of AI in the living room, and the importance of balance and ethics in AI.

Aug 22, 2023 • 54min
143 - Artificial Intelligence, Humanity, and Morality, with Guy Kawasaki
Guy Kawasaki discusses the positive impacts of artificial intelligence on creativity, productivity, and society. They explore the potential of AI as a divine connection and reflect on the rapid progress and uncertainty in AI. They emphasize the importance of studying historical events and express optimism for AI's positive impact. They discuss the perception of success and the need to consider what's missing when evaluating individuals or companies.

Aug 8, 2023 • 54min
142 - Artificial Intelligence and Ethics, with Mark Graves
Mark Graves discusses the intersections of AI, technology, ethics, faith, and philosophy. This is the first in a series on artificial intelligence, based in part on the work of AI and Faith, an organization which seeks to engage the world in the moral and ethical issues around artificial intelligence. Learn more at AIandfaith.org. Mark Graves is a research fellow and director at AI and Faith and is a research associate professor of psychology at Fuller Seminary.

Jul 25, 2023 • 1h 7min
141 - A Life of Ministry, with Rick Warren
Rick Warren shares about his many years of ministry—from the beginnings of Saddleback Church to his current work of participating in the Great Commission—and about what he’s learned of leadership, church, and God along the way. Rick Warren is a pastor, an author, and the founder of Saddleback Church. He is also executive director of Finishing the Task.

Jul 11, 2023 • 47min
140 - Thinking Well and Leading Wisely, with Cherie Harder
Cherie Harder discusses the state of political discourse in the United States and the task of helping leaders to more effectively cultivate ideas and Christian thought amidst today’s wider conversations. Cherie Harder is president of the Trinity Forum and formerly served in the White House as special assistant to the president and director of policy and projects for First Lady Laura Bush.

Jun 27, 2023 • 48min
139 - Mental Health and Wellbeing in the Church, with Daniel Whitehead
Daniel Whitehead describes the work of integrating mental health services into the community offerings of the church, sharing particularly about the efforts of Sanctuary Mental Health Ministries. Daniel is the CEO of Sanctuary Mental Health Ministries, equipping churches to support mental health and wellbeing in their community. Learn more at sanctuarymentalhealth.org.
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