
Leaders with Joe Cass
Welcome to Leaders, a podcast featuring long-form conversations with senior investors, CEOs, and entrepreneurs on topics that matter most to the investment community. In each episode, Joe Cass, Senior Director at S&P Global Ratings, explores market trends, investment outlooks, and personal stories from industry trailblazers. Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon Music, and Deezer. This podcast series was formerly known as Fixed Income in 15.
Latest episodes

Jul 12, 2023 • 32min
Ep39: Dan Yergin on Energy Security, Being An Entrepreneur, Advising U.S Presidents & His New Book
Dan Yergin, Vice Chairman at S&P Global and Pulitzer-Prize winning author, discusses his new book 'The New Map'. Topics include challenges of energy transition, founding CERA in 1983, advising U.S Presidents, and the changing landscape of world trade and geopolitics.

Jun 13, 2023 • 43min
Ep38: Mary Pryshlak on Generative AI in Credit Research, & How To Manage 130 Investment Professional
Mary Pryshlak, Head of Investment Research at Wellington Management, joined Alexandra Dimitrijevic, Global Head of Research & Development at S&P Global Ratings and host Joe Cass on this episode of Fixed Income in 15. Discussion focused on the potential role of Generative AI in credit research, leadership experiences from Alexandra and Mary and books that have fundamentally changed our guests' lives.

May 5, 2023 • 27min
Ep37: Saira Mailk on Breaking into Finance, The Next Big Risks & Educating Children
Saira Mailk, CIO of Nuveen joins Ruth Yang, Global Head of Thought Leadership at S&P Global Ratings and host Joe Cass on this episode of Fixed Income in 15. Discussion focused on Saira’s experience breaking into finance, the next big risks for investors, Ruth’s leadership experience and Saira and Ruth’s strategies when educating their children on finance.

Mar 15, 2023 • 34min
Ep36: David Rubenstein on Private Markets, Investment Regrets, Interviewing Elon Musk & His New Book
David Rubenstein, Co-Founder of The Carlyle Group joins Adam Kansler, President at S&P Global Market Intelligence and host Joe Cass on this episode of Fixed Income in 15. Topics included private market valuations and data, interest rate trajectories, David’s new book “How To Invest”, biggest investing regrets and anecdotes from David’s investing career.

Feb 9, 2023 • 43min
Ep 35: Emmanuel Roman on Investing in 2023, Private Markets, PIMCO Culture & Arsenal FC
PIMCO CEO Emmanuel Roman and Martina Cheung, President of S&P Global Ratings, joined Joe Cass on this episode of the FI15 podcast. Discussion spanned investing in 2023, private debt, working culture at PIMCO after Bill Gross, Davos, ChatGPT and Arsenal FC.

Dec 14, 2022 • 31min
Ep34: Liz Ann Sonders on the 2023 Macro Outlook, Her 300,000 Twitter Followers & Inflation
Liz Ann Sonders, Chief Investment Strategist at Charles Schwab joins Paul Gruenwald, Global Chief Economist at S&P Global Ratings and host Joe Cass on this episode of Fixed Income in 15. Discussion focused on the 2023 macro outlook, US rate cycle, sticky inflation, Liz Ann’s Twitter 300,000 Twitter following and Paul’s cycling over lockdown.

Nov 29, 2022 • 29min
Ep33: Peter Harrison on Being a CEO, Career Advice & Meeting The Queen
Peter Harrison, CEO of Schroders joins Dan Draper, CEO at S&P Dow Jones Indices and host Joe Cass on this episode of Fixed Income in 15. Discussion focused on Peter & Dan’s experiences working across the globe for different institutions, the day-to-day realities of being a CEO and, private markets, blockchain and Peter’s experience meeting The Queen.

Nov 16, 2022 • 30min
Ep32: David Hunt on The Future of Asset Management, Strategy & Growing AUM
David Hunt, CEO of PGIM joins Maria Melendez, Global Head of Strategy at S&P Global Ratings and host Joe Cass on this episode of Fixed Income in 15. Discussion focused on David’s experience as a CEO, his current take on the global macro environment, Maria’s career path and her view on how to successfully execute strategy in our day-to-day roles.

Oct 25, 2022 • 43min
Ep31: Chamath Palihapitiya on Investing, Mental Health, Poker & SPACs
Global tech investor Chamath Palihapitiya and Naveen Sarma, Senior Director at S&P Global Ratings, discuss investment philosophy, poker for investors, streaming future, and mental health importance. From playing poker to the future of streaming and mental health, this podcast covers a wide array of intriguing topics.

Oct 7, 2022 • 45min
Ep30: Joyce Chang on Market Themes, Defi and Working with Jamie Dimon
Joyce Chang, Chair of Global Research at JP Morgan joins Alexandra Dimitrijevic, Global Head of Research & Development at S&P Global Ratings and host Joe Cass on this episode of Fixed Income in 15. Discussion focused key themes that may affect financial markets in 2022-23, the evolution of ESG when thinking about an energy crisis, the impact of DeFi on TradFi and Joyce’s advice for young women pursuing a career in finance.