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Being Human is for people who want go deep on what it means to be a human making a difference.
We’ll discover how to be better humans at work and in life.
We’ll explore leadership, relationships and how to make changes in ourselves and our environments. Nothing will be off limits.
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Latest episodes

Apr 9, 2020 • 1h 17min
#106 The 2-Day Business Transformation - with Tom van der Lubbe
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In this episode Tom van der Lubbe shares how his company Viisi took their entire workforce 100% remote in two days and so far have seen no loss in revenue.
Viisi is a pioneer in self-organisation. They have implemented the radical business operating system Holacracy to create an extraordinary high-trust culture. They are now reaping the rewards of their stellar human capital during the current crisis.
In this episode, we talk:
- why people-first businesses will win during this crisis
- how Viisi's self-organised structure allowed them to go remote so quickly
- how removing fear from the environment has seen their revenues unaffected
- how the teams themselves are accommodating those with essential-worker spouses
- how purpose is replacing the CEO in self-managed organisations
Links:
Tom's profile on Viisi
Brian's Robertson's Holacracy book
Tom's recent article in Corporate Rebels

Apr 2, 2020 • 51min
#105 Life Interrupted - with Dawna Jones
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In this episode, I interview author, speaker and strategist Dawna Jones.
Dawna has been podcasting more than a decade. She's a "lover of the power of the human spirit" and has a deep interest in how businesses and consumers together can restore our social and ecological health.
In this full-blooded conversation, we talk:
- her emergence from homelessness after the '08 crash
- making sense of life's interruptions
- the key factors of decision making in complexity
- the organisation as part of life itself
- why we need to think more broadly than just collective intelligence
Enjoy and stay safe.

Mar 27, 2020 • 1h 21min
#104 Align! - with Jonathan Trevor
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My guest for this episode is Associate Professor Jonathan Trevor from Saïd Business School and author of the Financial Times' Book of the Month, 'Align'.
Jonathan talks a broad view of alignment across all aspects of the enterprise.
We talk:
- What is alignment and Jonathan's Strategic Alignment Framework
- The universalists (best practice is best) vs the contingency theorists (context matters)
- Why we must look at alignment as more than a 'people issue.'
- Why you must pick between stability and agility
- The Enterprise Leader as Organisational Architect
Enjoy!
Align book link
Jonathan's Saïd profile

Mar 20, 2020 • 53min
#103 Eliminating the Idea of Waste - with Tom Szaky
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My guest for this episode is Tom Szaky. Tom is an extraordinary multi-award-winning entrepreneur who embodies the notion of the purpose-driven enterprise. His company Terracycle is a world leader in offering commercial solutions to fully recycling our products.
From his plant in the middle of one of the most deprived districts in New Jersey, we talk:
- Why for-profit companies beat non-profits in saving the world
- How being purpose-driven leads to negative marketing budgets
- How they have no crime incidents despite their location
- How growing up in communism has made him a better capitalist
- The issue with framing big corporations as evil and how to make them care
Enjoy!
Links:
Tom's company - TerraCycle

Mar 13, 2020 • 53min
#102 Work from Home! - with Sara Perry
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As I upload this video, many people are facing working from home fulltime for the first time in their careers.
In this episode, I speak with Dr. Sara Perry from Baylor University, a leading researcher in the field.
We talk:
- How to be a successful remote worker
- When remote working works and when it doesn't
- What remote working could mean for our society
- The personality types that struggle with it
- What to do to make the most of the opportunity if you've been given it
Enjoy!
Richard
Links:
Join Dr. Perry's study
Her book 'Organized Innovation'

Mar 6, 2020 • 1h 2min
#101 Conversational Intelligence - with Helena Demuynck
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In this episode, I speak with leadership coach Helena Demuynck, a world expert in the field of Conversational Intelligence.
We talk:
- How to engage any group (and avoid the situation above)
- The six brains involved in a conversation
- How moving people into 'Level 3' conversations amplifies outcomes
- Drilling down, and the power of curiosity
- The importance of breathing in co-creation
Enjoy!
Links:
Conversational Intelligence book
Oxygen 4 Leadership

Feb 28, 2020 • 1h 42min
#100 Self Archeology - with Darius Cikanavicius
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Helping to create a 'trauma-aware' society is a significant aim of this podcast, so I'm delighted that for our 100th episode we talk with Darius Cikanavicius. He a prodigious blogger and author of 'Human Development and Trauma'.
We talk:
- Darius' childhood growing up in a single-parent home
- Why trauma is not just about significant events
- The power of having an 'enlightened witness'
- Why therapy rocks
- Where to start with Self-Work
Enjoy!
Links:
Self Archeology site
Self Archeology Facebook
Darius Instagram

Feb 21, 2020 • 53min
#99 Corporate Rebel - with Pim de Morree
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I'm thrilled to say that after a year of stalking (!), Pim de Morree agreed to be my guest this week.
Pim is one-half of the founder team of the trailblazing Corporate Rebels.
His adventures to the cutting edge of progressive business cultures have been inspiring me for years.
In this episode, we talk:
- How the seeds of his corporate rebellion formed in his childhood
- The Belgian civil servant changing the world
- Where Google are getting it wrong
- His Number #1 f*ck-up building Corporate Rebels
- How to achieve psychological safety
Enjoy!
Links:
Corporate rebels website
Corporate rebels book

Feb 14, 2020 • 1h 6min
#98 Leading Bomb Disposal and Other Stories - with Ben Sawyer - part II
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In this episode, I present to you Part II of my conversation with ex-Bomb Disposal Officer, Change Manager and leadership author, Ben Sawyer.
Ben has an incredible story. He fulfilled his boyhood dream to be the guy in the big suit walking down the street to defuse the explosive threat. He now works as a Change Manager with one of the largest publishers in the world, The Oxford University Press.
In this concluding segment, we talk:
- His favoured strategy for change management
- Staying one step ahead of the terrorists in Afghanistan
- Improving bomb disposal technology with no budget
- Agility in the military
- Ben's biggest failure as a leader and lessons for workplace stress
Enjoy!
Best,
Richard
Links:
Part I of this conversation
Ben's forthcoming book: Paradox and Power in Caring Leadership
L.David Marquet - Turn The Ship Around!

Feb 5, 2020 • 1h
#97 Leading Bomb Disposal and Other Stories - with Ben Sawyer - part I
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In this episode, I talk with ex-Bomb Disposal Officer and leadership author Ben Sawyer.
Ben has an incredible story. He fulfilled his boyhood dream to be the guy in the big suit walking down the street to defuse the explosive threat. He now works as a Change Manager with one of the largest publishers in the world, The Oxford University Press.
The conversation was so fruitful that we've split this into two parts.
In this first part, we talk:
- Checking for bombs under his Dad's car at seven years old
- The motto at Sandhurst that stayed with him
- The moment he had to break the rules for the greater good
- The critical leadership trait that kept his team safe
- His biggest mistake as a military leader
Enjoy!
Best,
Richard
Links:
Ben's forthcoming book: Paradox and Power in Caring Leadership
L.David Marquet - Turn The Ship Around!