
Enneagram 2.0 with Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes
Join Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes, two of the top Enneagram teachers from across the globe as they share new insights on this ancient personal development system.
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Jul 10, 2025 • 1h 1min
S4 E13 - The Enneagram in Leadership and Personal Life
In this week's episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes interview Diana Chapman, Leadership coach, co-founder of the Conscious Leadership Group, and co-author of the book The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership and upcoming book No Drama Teams.In this lighthearted conversation, Diana shares her professional story, as well as case studies and personal experiences with leadership, self-discovery through the Enneagram, typing and remarkable insights on the 3 instincts.Learn more about Diana: https://www.dianachapman.com/The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership: https://www.amazon.com/15-Commitments-Conscious-Leadership-Sustainable-ebook/dp/B00R3MHWUE Sign up for our newsletter on our website https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter to join thousands of monthly readers. Get exclusive content and be the first to know about events. Just quality in all things Enneagram. Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at https://learn.cpenneagram.comWant to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage https://enneagramcompass.com to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: / @chestnutpaesenneagramacademy Follow us on Instagram: / cpenneagram Sign up for our newsletter https://cpenneagram.com/newsletterQuestions? hello@cpenneagram.com

Jun 27, 2025 • 1h 18min
S4 Ep.12 - A look back: Webinar: What are the Enneagram Subtypes?
The nine Enneagram types tell us a lot, but the Enneagram subtypes descriptions offer an even more nuanced view of the personality types, shedding light on our most unconscious level of functioning so we can become more self-aware. The Enneagram describes three centers of human intelligence—the head, heart, and body. Each triad then divides into three to create nine interconnected personality types. These types also each have their own triad—the third level of three—the 27 subtypes. Subtypes are based on whether a person has a predominant instinctual drive toward Self-Preservation, Social interaction in groups, or One-to-one bonding. In this one-hour event, Bea and Uranio will discuss the Enneagram subtypes—everything you wanted to know (but didn't know to ask) ahead of their 2023 series, Mastering the 27 Enneagram Subtypes for Maximum Growth.By the way, you can watch and listen to most of our episodes now. To watch the recordings, check out our Spotify channel https://open.spotify.com/show/7dmV26Kyx8lF1CojrMTOP6 or YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademy.Videos are not currently supported on other major podcast media.If you want to discover which Enneagram Type you could be, visit our webpage cpenneagram.com/compass to learn about the Enneagram Test we just launched, the Chestnut Paes Sullivan Enneagram Compass.If you have enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe and share it with others that you think would enjoy it. It will help us out a lot!Check out https://cpenneagram.com to learn more about our online learning portal and try it out for free. Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/cpenneagram/ and join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/2498155770431215/ to share your perspectives and keep the discussion going! And check out our Calendar of Events https://cpenneagram.com/live-courses to study with Bea and Uranio directly! Questions? hello@cpenneagram.com.

Jun 13, 2025 • 59min
S4 E11 - The Enneagram and Storytelling in teamwork - An interview with Christy Kennedy, Enneagram facilitator.
In this week's episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes interview Christy Kennedy, founder of Culture Conscious — a company that integrates the Enneagram with storytelling to unlock the full growth potential of leaders and teams.In addition to her professional journey with the Enneagram, Christy shares her personal growth story, offering beautiful and meaningful insights on the centers of intelligence and her lived experience with each one.Learn more about Culture Conscious: https://www.cultureconscious.com/aboutTeams Under Stress Tool: https://www.cultureconscious.com/leading-teams-through-stressful-times-toolSign up for our newsletter on our website https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter to join thousands of monthly readers. Get exclusive content and be the first to know about events. Just quality in all things Enneagram. Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at https://learn.cpenneagram.comWant to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage https://enneagramcompass.com to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/cpenneagramSign up for our newsletter https://cpenneagram.com/newsletterQuestions? hello@cpenneagram.com

May 29, 2025 • 1h 4min
S4 EP10 A Spiritual Director's Personal Experience as a Social Two
In this week's Episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Urânio Paes interview Desta Goehner, a spiritual director who has helped several spiritual workers and leaders improve themselves in their journey using the Enneagram. They also discuss her personal growth journey as a Social Two, highlighting how the Enneagram is a powerful tool that can help in your own personal, psychological, and spiritual work. Desta also shares her experience with CP Enneagram's inner work retreats!Sign up for our newsletter on our website https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter to join thousands of monthly readers. Get exclusive content and be the first to know about events. Just quality in all things Enneagram. Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at https://learn.cpenneagram.comWant to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage https://enneagramcompass.com to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cpenneagram/Sign up for our newsletter https://cpenneagram.com/newsletterQuestions? hello@cpenneagram.com

May 5, 2025 • 59min
S4 Ep9 Integrating the Enneagram in Psychotherapy and Healing Work
In this episode, Bea and Uranio sit down with psychotherapist Karen Carlsen to explore how the Enneagram can be integrated into deep healing and therapeutic work. Karen shares her approach to using the Enneagram as a map for understanding personality defenses, the power of knowing her clients' Enneagram types, and transformation in psychotherapy and coaching work. Together, they discuss real-life applications, the importance of presence in the healing process, and how the Enneagram can support both therapists and clients in uncovering the true self beyond personality patterns.

Apr 17, 2025 • 35min
S4 Ep8 Doing Deep work with the Enneagram in Egypt and London
Beatrice Chestnut has a conversation with Dina Elbadry about the power of recognizing and accepting trauma. The act of sharing personal stories with a group of people has a profound effect on self-development. Learn how being vulnerable in a group of people who validate and resonate with pain can help release the power trauma holds. Sign up for our newsletter on our website https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter to join thousands of monthly readers. Get exclusive content and be the first to know about events. Just quality in all things Enneagram. Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at https://learn.cpenneagram.comWant to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage https://cpenneagram.com/compass to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cpenneagram/Sign up for our newsletter https://cpenneagram.com/newsletterQuestions? hello@cpenneagram.com

Apr 3, 2025 • 1h 18min
S4 Ep7. A Look Back: Focus of Attention of the 27 Subtypes
All Enneagram types have a particular thing that they focus their attention on (often unconsciously). Understanding each of these points of focus is one of the best ways for people to learn about the Nine types and the 27 subtypes. People tend to become very good at the thing they pay attention to, but they tend to miss the bigger picture. For inner growth, it’s essential to expand your vision and to be able to shift your focus to things that your personality tries hard to hide.Bea and Uranio offer tips on how to observe what you habitually pay attention to and how to expand your narrow focus to encompass a greater, more balanced perspective so that you can mature both psychologically and spiritually.If you want to discover which Enneagram Type you could be, visit our webpage cpenneagram.com/compass to learn about the Enneagram Test they just launched, CPS Enneagram Compass.If you have enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe and share it with others that you think would enjoy it. It will help us out a lot!Check out cpenneagram.com to learn more about our online learning portal and try it out for free. Follow us on Instagram @cpenneagram and join our Facebook group to share your perspectives and keep the discussion going! And check out our Calendar of Events to study with Bea and Uranio directly! Questions? hello@cpenneagram.com.

Mar 20, 2025 • 54min
S4 Ep6 The Psychological Dimension of the Instincts
In this episode, we dive deep into the psychological layers of the Enneagram’s three instincts: Self-Preservation, Social, and Sexual. We explore the profound influence of parenting dynamics on the dominant instinct, uncovering how caregivers shape our instinctual survival strategies.How does a parent’s role reinforce or distort an instinct’s expression? Why do some of us become hyper-independent while others seek belonging at all costs? And what happens when our core needs feel unmet? Join us as Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes bridge the wisdom of the Enneagram with psychological inquiry.Sign up for our newsletter on our website https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter to join thousands of monthly readers. Get exclusive content and be the first to know about events. Just quality in all things Enneagram. Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at https://learn.cpenneagram.comWant to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage https://cpenneagram.com/compass to learn about the Enneagram test they created, CPS Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cpenneagram/Sign up for our newsletter https://cpenneagram.com/newsletterQuestions? hello@cpenneagram.com

Mar 6, 2025 • 55min
S4 Ep5 The Upsides and Downsides of Each Center of Intelligence
Each of the three Centers of Intelligence has upsides and downsides. Being a Body Type, Heart Type, or Head Type plays a big role in our daily experience and how we navigate the world in collaboration with others. Some adaptive strategies that come with Anger, Sadness, and Fear have some pros, while other traits have a negative impact on daily life. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes explore this topic and shine light onto the upsides and downsides of ego regarding Centers of Intelligence. Sign up for our newsletter on our website https://cpenneagram.com/newsletter to join thousands of monthly readers. Get exclusive content and be the first to know about events. Just quality in all things Enneagram. Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at https://learn.cpenneagram.comWant to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage https://cpenneagram.com/compass to learn about the Enneagram test they created, CPS Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cpenneagram/Sign up for our newsletter https://cpenneagram.com/newsletterQuestions? hello@cpenneagram.com

Feb 20, 2025 • 1h 17min
S4 Ep4 How Each Enneagram Type Works with Others in Teams
Discover how the Enneagram shapes teamwork dynamics through its three dominant instincts: self-preservation, social, and sexual. Learn about the unique contributions and challenges of Enneagram types, especially how Types Eight, Nine, and One navigate group dynamics. Explore the interplay between various types, including the supportive nature of Twos and the competitive spirit of Threes. The discussion emphasizes the significance of collaboration over competition in building high-performing teams, highlighting the strengths and challenges presented by each personality type.