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Chanler’s back from the flight from hell—complete with zero legroom, tarmac heat, and a bralette breakdown. Lauren lands from St. Barth and immediately roasts the snack box struggle. The sisters debrief their Juicy Scoop appearance, dish on Brooklyn upgrades, and dive into the latest Karen Read courtroom twists. Then it’s The Valley's most overblown scandal (a pantry tequila swig??), Blake Lively’s legal backpedaling, Taylor Swift’s mini dress moment, and why Ubah’s fiancé might be the hottest man in Bravo history.Timestamps:[00:00] ✈️ Flight from Hell — Chanler barely survives United's final row with no AC, no food, and full claustrophobia. She strips. Literally.[10:00] 🎤 Juicy Scoop & Jet Lag — Post-interview blackout and a proud sister moment over their Heather McDonald appearance.[11:30] 🏡 Brooklyn Era Incoming — Chanler shares details on her dreamy new apartment: double square footage and heated bathroom floors.[15:00] ⚖️ Karen Read Trial Gets Messier — FBI investigations, hostile witnesses, and a town with collective amnesia. It’s getting wild.[20:00] 🍾 Pantrygate on The Valley — Did a secret tequila swig mean more? Janet stirs the pot hard and the girls call BS on the drinking drama.[25:00] 💔 Jesse & Michelle Meltdown — Jesse’s verbal abuse, Michelle’s glow-up, and why divorce might’ve saved her personality.[28:00] 🧾 Blake Lively's Legal Retreat — She’s trying to drop the emotional distress claim—but keep her options open? We see you, Blake.[33:00] 🎭 Sutton Foster Steps Out (Silently) — Hugh Jackman’s girlfriend skips the press line while Deborra-Lee Furness drops spiritual shade.[36:00] 👠 Taylor Swift at Monkey Bar — Black mini dress, diamond tennis bracelet, and... platform heels? The girls weigh in on the look.[40:00] 👙 Bethenny’s Bikini Clapback — Bethenny hits the swimwear runway and defends her “cute tush.” The sisters are divided.[45:00] 🩻 Kylie’s Boob Job Details — 450cc, moderate profile, under the muscle. Kylie finally shares her plastic surgery specs.[50:00] 💍 Ubah Gets Her Man — Ubah Hassan’s new fiancé is hot, tall, and rich. Chanler is unwell. Jill Zarin thinks it’s divine intervention.[55:00] 💔 Lauren Sanchez Grace Clause — Why does Sutton get heat but Lauren Sanchez gets worshipped? The girls make their case.Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, Lauren and Chanler are coming to you from full LA trip prep mode. From Beyoncé's celestial performance to Mormon Wives chaos, they're breaking down the biggest stories. Expect mystery, mom drama, reality TV breakdowns, and one very bold Vogue request.• [00:00] 🎬 Packing, filming, and a camera setup saga—plus, why Chanler is unusually zen pre-LA• [07:46] 🎤 Beyoncé’s LA concert: iconic cameos, wardrobe wins, and a soft launch for Jay-Z's redemption arc?• [13:46] ⚖️ Karen Read trial deep dive: conspiracies, Facebook moms, and a possible swingers' night with a garage door guy• [24:11] 🥃 Sandy Cohen, The OC, and an unforgettable party moment involving a very lost wristwatch• [26:51] 📺 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: friendship fallouts, glam mom interventions, and shifting alliances on-screen• [39:21] ✂️ Book deals, hair-related shade, and the moment the group chat energy shifted on camera• [41:41] 🍼 Emotions run high with a pregnancy reveal and a redemption arc that hits surprisingly hard• [47:11] 💍 Engagement rumors swirl as an NFL legend updates his yacht name and sparks internet theories• [50:11] 👑 Meghan Markle’s alleged pitch to be on every Vogue cover—and what reportedly happened next• [53:41] 🧾 Brittany Bateman’s legal drama heats up—featuring lawsuits, former friends, and court filings• [56:51] 💸 Dakota Johnson talks rent struggles, career rejections, and what “making it” actually looked likePlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.OneSkin: Get 15% off OneSkin with the code Popapologists at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod #sponsoredFor more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Fresh off their Ballerina Farm pilgrimage, the girls are back—and chaos reigns. Lauren and Chanler unpack the alleged threat Blake Lively’s legal team made against Taylor Swift (yes, the one about exposing 10 years of private texts 😳). Then it’s a deep dive into the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: ketamine therapy, family betrayal, facelifts, and MomTok delusions. Plus, major developments in the Karen Read trial and Cassie Ventura’s devastating testimony in the Diddy case. You’re not ready. 👀⏱️ Chapter Timestamps:[00:00–01:00] 🐄 Back from Ballerina Farm: A recap of their visit to Utah with Courtney Grow[01:00–13:00] 💔 Taylor vs. Blake: The alleged threat, the fallout, and the godmother betrayal[13:00–16:00] 👀 Travis Kelsey unfollows Ryan, Reputation (TV) hints, and the AMAs theory[16:00–44:00] 🎬 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S2: Taylor’s heartbreak, toxic parents, and ketamine therapy[44:00–45:30] ✈️ PSA: Why Provo dating is a danger zone[45:30–54:00] ⚖️ Karen Read trial update: Discredited expert testimony, taillight confusion, and police cover-up concerns[54:00–55:30] 😠 Sgt. Yuri Bucha's shady performance on the stand[55:30–01:02:00] 💣 Diddy trial: Cassie’s testimony, freak off allegations, and the breakdown of his decade-long abuse[01:02:00–01:03:00] 🧠 Why this matters: justice for victims and Cassie’s stand[01:03:00–01:04:00] 🎤 Outro: Upcoming content, love for the Global Elite, and farewell until FridayPlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chanler’s dad, a family law attorney, returns to share legal wisdom on divorce, prenups, and child support, plus wild stories like chasing stolen goods. They reflect on their LDS upbringing, raising five daughters, and pursuing dreams at any age.⏱️ Timestamps[00:00–02:00] 🎙️ Dad’s ReturnListener love brings Dad back.[02:00–04:00] 💕 Deb’s FriendshipDad cherishes his 42-year marriage.[04:00–09:00] 👧 Raising DaughtersMom’s strictness, faith, and reading shaped success.[09:00–10:00] ⚖️ Baby NamesCourts don’t block odd names.[10:00–13:00] 💸 Income LiesFight ex’s fraud; ditch shady lawyers.[13:00–17:00] 🕵️‍♂️ Attorney ChoicePick specialists, trust gut, watch judges.[17:00–19:00] 💳 Blocked AccountsLawyer up for support orders.[19:00–21:00] 💼 Post-Divorce WorkBoth spouses must work; skills matter.[21:00–23:00] 😈 Bad BehaviorAffairs rarely affect no-fault divorce.[23:00–27:00] 👨‍👧 Five GirlsDad navigated hormones; Mom was strict.[27:00–30:00] 💔 Divorce TipsSeek faith, a friend; try saving marriage.[30:00–33:00] 📈 Impulsive DivorcesMore common, but kids suffer.[33:00–38:00] ⚖️ Law PathStarted law at 30 with three kids.[38:00–41:00] 🚀 Chase DreamsPursue goals at any age.[41:00–44:00] 📝 PrenupsFair prenups share future earnings.[44:00–48:00] 🧗‍♀️ College DaysLauren’s risky dates; sisters’ server jobs.[48:00–50:00] 🦅 Daughters’ PathsAll chose bold careers, not law.[50:00–52:00] 💡 New CareersNursing, paralegal, sales for reentry.[52:00–57:00] 🚨 Wild TalesLimo attorney; stolen goods chase.[57:00–59:00] 💰 Greed’s CostHidden assets don’t pay off.[59:00–01:01:00] 🌟 No StatusRaised valuing love, not pedigree.[01:01:00–End] 🎤 Sign-OffDad’s 25 followers get love.Follow: @popapologistsPlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The girls are back from wedding bliss and diving headfirst into hot topics—from a possible Taylor Swift pregnancy to Diddy’s disturbing trial details. Chanler dishes on an unexpected urgent care visit, while Lauren unpacks blind items about Blake Lively’s rumored fallout with Taylor. They debate the Karen Read trial, analyze Meghan and Harry’s Beyoncé date night, and break down why a 24-year-old pageant queen is outsmarting all of us with $9 million in real estate. Drama, speculation, and Chanel denim slander—this episode has it all.[00:00–03:00] 💊 Post-Wedding Urgent CareChanler reveals her rough post-honeymoon health scare and how “traveler’s issues” sent her to urgent care.[03:00–05:00] 🌽 Mother’s Day & Corn Cob ShameThe girls reflect on a sweet Mother’s Day… until a corn-eating incident leaves Lauren humiliated.[06:00–08:00] ⚖️ Should They Cover the Diddy Trial?They discuss whether they should pivot into full-on legal podcasters and break down audience appetite for darkness.[08:00–10:00] ☕ Taylor & Travis Reappear!Taylor and Travis were spotted with both moms on Mother's Day, sparking pregnancy or engagement rumors.[10:00–12:00] 👜 The Chanel 25 Bag DebateLauren critiques Taylor’s controversial denim Chanel bag and the brand’s identity crisis.[12:00–15:00] 🤰 Engagement or Baby on the Way?Speculation: is Taylor secretly pregnant—or just shopping hobo bags with bad posture?[15:00–18:00] 💍 DeuxMoi’s Blind Hint + Pregnancy Test PanicA DeuxMoi tease hints at an engagement, while Chanler has her own pregnancy test scare.[19:00–21:00] 🧐 Karen Read Trial Talk BeginsThe girls passionately defend Karen and wonder why the supposed “cover-up crew” seems so bad at covering up.[21:00–27:00] 🧪 Karen Theories & Cocktail Glass DebateIn-depth theorizing: how did the glass stay intact? Why did no one text about the body? They’re confused and obsessed.[29:00–32:00] 📣 Taylor Subpoenaed in Blake LawsuitTaylor’s fiery denial of involvement in “It Ends With Us” is dissected line by line.[32:00–35:00] 🚫 Girl Gang Fallout: Blake is OUTWith Blake uninvited from Gigi’s party and Travis unfollowing Ryan, it looks like Taylor is officially over it.[35:00–38:00] 🔥 Blind Item: Blake Tried to Seduce Justin?!A wild blind claims Blake made a move on Justin… and Taylor may have spilled it to Brittany Mahomes.[39:00–42:00] 🧨 Diddy Trial Breakdown (Warning: Graphic)Shocking opening day testimony is covered, from assault to bribes to male escorts and control.[43:00–45:00] 👑 Jordan Hudson’s Real Estate EmpireBill Belichick’s 24-year-old girlfriend just bought $9M in condos. The girls are stunned and impressed.[45:00–48:00] 🧠 The Psychology of Jordan HudsonIs this 5D chess? They analyze the strategy and ROI behind her sugar baby-to-landlord pipeline.[49:00–52:00] 🤠 Meghan & Harry at Cowboy CarterThey break down Meghan’s outfit, Harry’s hat, and why this photo dump hits different.[52:00–55:00] 👑 The Royal Family’s PR GamesWith no signs of reconciliation, the girls predict Harry and Meghan’s fading relevance as the next gen grows up.[55:00–57:00] 💸 Brand Longevity Doubts for Meghan & HarryDo they have enough “product” to support the lifestyle? Lauren goes full monologue.[57:00–End] 🎤 Signing Off with LoveBack from the wedding and ready to spill all the tea, the girls close with love for the listeners and a reminder to subscribe for more!Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

While Chanler is off honeymooning, Lauren is joined by one of her closest friends and the chicest blonde she knows — Elizabeth. The duo dive deep into royal chaos, from Meghan Markle's HRH mess to Prince William's fury, and break down the Walton Goggins and Amy Lou Wood drama. They also tackle the shocking story of a ring-copying sister-in-law, Jordan Hudson's PR reign over Bill Belichick, and a family feud brewing in the Beckham clan. Plus, a Capri travel segment with insider tips closes the show.⏱️ Chapter Timestamps00:00 – Meet Elizabeth 👯‍♀️Chanler is on her honeymoon, so Lauren invites bestie Elizabeth to co-host. They chat Chandler’s gorgeous Prospect Park wedding and kick off a Capri-themed giveaway.07:00 – The Ring Copy Heard Round the Family 💍A listener dilemma: her future sister-in-law copies her exact engagement ring — then drags it on TikTok. The girls are scandalized.11:00 – Meghan Markle Gossip Bombshell ☕An anonymous source shares insider PR tea on Meghan’s fame strategy pre-Harry. Spoiler: it involves a deck of rich men at events.13:00 – Meghan’s HRH Title Scandal 🔥Lauren and Elizabeth dissect Meghan’s latest controversy — using her royal title on a jam gift basket featured in a public podcast.19:00 – Did Meghan Break the Rules? 👑They debate if Meghan’s HRH use was innocent or strategic. Cue a full breakdown of royal branding, commercial promotion, and royal hypocrisy.26:00 – Prince William’s Fury 💢New reports claim William is planning to formally strip Harry and Meghan’s HRH titles when he becomes king. The girls weigh in on whether it’s deserved.30:00 – Security Drama & Harry’s Court Loss 🔐Prince Harry loses a UK court appeal over taxpayer-funded protection. Lauren and Elizabeth discuss whether the royal family is putting him in danger.37:00 – Walton Goggins & Amy Lou Wood 💔The two get into the juicy behind-the-scenes fallout between White Lotus stars Walton and Amy. From Instagram clues to awkward interviews, they speculate on what went down.42:00 – Jordan Hudson’s PR Reign Over Belichick 🧠💅Is Bill Belichick’s 24-year-old girlfriend tanking his career? The answer is possibly yes — and the girls go in hard on the weird dynamic.47:00 – The Beckhams Are Feuding 🥊David Beckham turns 50 — and Brooklyn + Nicola skip the bash. What’s going on between the Beckhams and Nicola Peltz? And who is Romeo’s new (and recycled?) girlfriend?53:00 – ✨ Bonus Segment: Amalfi Coast & Capri Travel GuideLauren is joined by photographer and Capri expert Natalie Obradovich for luxury recs, travel mistakes to avoid, where to stay, shop, and beach club like a local.We’re giving away a designer raffia bag of your choice (up to $3,000 in value!) to one lucky listener—just in time for summer getaways and poolside flexes.To enter:👉 Follow @popapologists (https://instagram.com/popapologists), @natalie (https://instagram.com/natalie), and @elizabeth.gaucher (https://instagram.com/elizabeth.gaucher) on InstagramBonus chance to win:⭐ Leave a 5 star review for Pop Apologists on Apple Podcasts🎉 GIVEAWAY ALERT: Win Your Dream Summer Bag!Check out our amazing sponsors:BetterHelp: Pop Apologists is sponsored by BetterHelp. We’re all better with help. Visit BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS (http://betterhelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS) to get 10% off your first month.Cozy Earth: To celebrate Moms everywhere, visit CozyEarth.com (http://cozyearth.com/) and use code POP for 40% off your entire order. Because she deserves the best!Hero Bread: Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to hero.co (http://hero.co/) and use code POP at checkout.Nutrafol: Find out why Nutrafol is the best-selling hair growth supplement brand at Nutrafol.com (http://nutrafol.com/) promo code POP.Quince: Treat your closet to a little summer glow-up with Quince. Go to http://quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan dive into everything we know so far from Karen Read’s retrial — prosecution and defense strategy, courtroom drama, and key witness moments. It’s all on the table.00:00 – 08:00 Wedding Week Catch-Up08:01 – 10:59 Case Background & Legal Overview11:00 – 12:59 Media Impact & Public Perception13:00 – 15:59 Jury Insights & Legal Strategy16:00 – 18:59 Key Players & Investigation Focus19:00 – 22:59 Scene Details & Timeline Questions23:00 – 24:59 Financial Fallout & Defense Structure25:00 – 27:59 New Evidence Introduced28:00 – 32:59 Behavior, Phones & Property Changes33:00 – 34:59 Search History Controversy35:00 – 38:59 Opening Statements & Legal Framing39:00 – 41:59 Witness Testimony & Trial Atmosphere42:00 – 47:00 Expert Evidence & Courtroom Debates47:01 – 48:59 Trial Momentum & What's Ahead49:00 – 51:59 Pop Culture Pulse Check (Travis Kelce, Meghan Markle)52:00 – 55:00 Podcast Reactions & CommentaryCheck out our amazing sponsors:MasterClass: Our listeners always get great discounts on MasterClass, of at least 15% off any annual membership at masterclass.com/popapologists . Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance.Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In light of Karen Read’s retrial, Lauren and Chandler revisit her first trial from 2024. They walk through the full timeline, key evidence, legal strategies, and the emerging controversies surrounding law enforcement’s role in the investigation.00:00 – 03:00 Intro, Format & Re-Release Context03:01 – 05:00 Who Were John O’Keefe and Karen Read?05:01 – 07:00 The Night in Question07:01 – 10:00 Early Morning Discovery & Initial Reactions10:01 – 13:00 Phone Records, Taillights & 911 Call13:01 – 16:00 Charges, Legal Teams, & Investigation Overview16:01 – 20:00 Evidence at the Scene20:01 – 24:00 Conflicting Theories & Relationship Dynamics24:01 – 28:00 Defense Strategy & Possible Coverup Claims28:01 – 33:00 Missing Footage, Evidence Chain & Key Players33:01 – 37:00 Surveillance Gaps & Timeline Breakdown37:01 – 42:00 Technology Data, Text Patterns & Phones42:01 – 47:00 Witness Testimony Challenges & Investigative Concerns47:01 – 52:00 Prosecutorial Position & Rebuttals52:01 – 57:00 Federal Oversight & External Reports57:01 – 01:03:00 Final Review of Conflicting Evidence01:03:01 – End What Comes Next & Closing ThoughtsCheck out our amazing sponsors:Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off!Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Discover how to keep the spark alive in relationships with fresh ideas on 'non-toxic drama' and daily intimacy practices like eye contact. Learn how to address sensitive topics such as weight gain and differing grooming choices with compassion. Explore the complexities of financial dynamics and how to maintain equity in a partnership. Plus, get insights on navigating challenges like kids entering the picture, trust issues, and setting boundaries with in-laws to foster long-lasting connections.

[00:00–02:00] 🚀 Was this really a “medium news week”? The girls dive into the headline that sent them — literally — into orbit.[02:00–06:00] 🌌 Katy Perry returns from space and says she’s “never felt more connected to love.” The commentary that follows? Unhinged perfection.[13:00–17:00] 💇‍♀️ Dyson Airwrap: myth or miracle? Lauren enters her hair reform era, and Chanler has thoughts.[24:00–29:00] 👠 Shoe size shame and celebrity foot gossip (yes, this is a real segment, and yes, it’s glorious).[31:00–34:00] 💸 The $30 Stanley Cup that almost ended a wedding before it started.[35:00–39:00] 🎭 A viral SNL sketch, bad teeth jokes, and a rumored celeb breakup — things get dicey.[40:00–47:00] ⚖️ An unexpected twist in the Lively vs. Baldoni case, including a new voice on Team Justin.[47:00–52:00] 👯‍♀️ The Kyle and Dorit friendship breakdown — are we watching the end in real time?[52:00–57:00] 🎶 Morgan Wade, Wilder Days, and Real Housewives chemistry that’s way too on-the-nose.[57:00–End (~01:01:00)] 🥂 A toast to long-lasting love — and Jennifer Tilley just living her fabulous life.Check out our amazing sponsors:Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off!Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Quince: For your next trip, treat yourself to the luxe upgrades you deserve from Quince. Go to quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance.Hero Bread: Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to hero.co and use code POP at checkout.Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.