Pop Apologists

Taylor Swift just hijacked the entire Pop Apologists docket — and Chanler & Lauren are living for it! From cryptic orange sparkles to a khaki skirt, a mint briefcase, and one very un-Swift-like F-bomb, the girls deep-dive every Easter egg, theory, and reveal surrounding TS12. Plus, a swoon-worthy GQ profile of Travis Kelce, the TikTok saga that broke their brains, and a dash of celeb vow renewal gossip to round it out.Timestamps:00:00 – 🎤 TS12 announcement reactions & New Heights teaser07:00 – 🎶 Album sound rumors & producer lineup15:00 – 📀 Release date theories & cover art leaks20:00 – 🎧 Why Taylor choosing a podcast is a power move25:00 – 🕵️‍♀️ Easter eggs that led to TS1235:00 – 🎭 Album title debate: Life of a Showgirl39:00 – 📋 Playlist clues & production style predictions40:00 – 📰 Travis Kelce’s GQ profile & relationship insights47:00 – 💪 Travis on Taylor’s work ethic & humility53:00 – 🏈 Childhood, family values & shared backgrounds57:00 – 💍 Nicola Peltz & Brooklyn Beckham vow renewal59:00 – 🌀 “I Fell in Love with My Psychiatrist” TikTok deep diveBooking.com. Booking.YEAH!Clean Simple Eats: 10% off at CleanSimpleEats.com/POPAPOLOGISTSMacy’s: Shop the Big Home Sale at macys.com or in stores now!EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% offProgressive: Try the Auto Quote Explorer at progressive.comWayfair: Head to Wayfair dot com right now to shop all things Home. Wayfair. Every style. Every home.Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Join journalist and author Amy Odell as she delves into the enigmatic life of Gwyneth Paltrow, exploring her complex persona shaped by privilege, fame, and public scrutiny. They discuss Gwyneth's dramatic Oscar win, the controversies surrounding her Goop brand, and the societal pressures on women in Hollywood. Odell shares insights from her extensive interviews for 'Gwyneth, the Biography', revealing the duality of Gwyneth's attractive facade and the challenges she faces behind the scenes.

Lauren’s back from Italy and just in time — because Travis dropped a 13-photo grid hard launching Taylor that basically broke the internet. Chanler catches her up on every sparkly-filtered slide. The girls question if this could mean wedding bells? And the real reason so many brands chimed in on the comment section.(00:00:00) ✈️ Postcards from Italy — Lauren’s friend-filled vacation and her texting boundaries abroad (00:06:28) 💑 Taylor & Travis Go Public — 13 photos, soft-launch culture, and the wholesome vibes of each pic (00:19:07) 📱 The Filter Debate — Sparkly edits, signature cameras, and why Taylor’s aesthetic never changes (00:20:20) 🏰 Chrishell & G Flip’s Third Wedding — Medieval theme, guest fatigue, and how to lose friends annually (00:23:48) 😬 Beckham Family Feud — Cursed Notes, Instagram blocks, awkward weddings, and very public shade (00:36:18) 🚤 Yacht Wars — $16M vs. billionaire-level $400M boats, and Sir Elton’s peacekeeping tour (00:44:05) 🔭 The Coldplay Kiss-Cam Scandal — Public makeouts, lawsuits, and the downfall of Astronomer (00:51:00) 🌿 Gwyneth’s Surprise Cameo — Her comedic timing, rumored $2M payout, and the copper-fit hustle (00:56:20) 🧼 Goop vs. Rhode — Hailey Bieber’s billion-dollar exit vs. Gwyneth’s grind (00:58:00) 📣 What’s Next — Matty Healy’s mom, Katy Perry, Sydney Sweeney and more coming in Friday’s Global Elite episodeBetterHelp: Our listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% offPlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this bonus episode, Chanler is joined by her husband Ben and their wedding planner, Laura from Love, Laura. We discuss what it actually takes to plan a wedding that feels intentional, elevated, and true to you. From walking away from their original venue to rethinking the wedding party altogether, this conversation goes deep on the emotional, logistical, and aesthetic realities of modern wedding planning — with expert advice from Laura herself.Check out Love, Laura on Instagram www.instagram.com/lovelauraevents Check out Love, Laura events www.lovelaura.co (00:00:00) 💍 Where to Start — the foundation of a great wedding and why your planner actually matters(00:08:32) 🥂 Defining Your Style — avoiding trend traps, trusting your gut, and staying true to your vision(00:16:40) 🎻 Making It Meaningful — how to create a ceremony that feels intimate, not performative(00:22:13) 🪑 The Guest List Equation — setting boundaries, navigating family politics, and curating with intention(00:28:48) 🧠 Avoiding the Spiral — decision fatigue, emotional overload, and how to reset when it gets too much(00:37:05) 👗 Dress Wisdom — why it’s okay to change your mind, and how to find a look you actually feel good in(00:43:41) 📸 Capturing the Moment — trusting your team, letting go of the shot list, and being present(00:52:20) 💒 Final Advice — Laura’s golden rule, Ben’s hot take, and the one thing every bride should prioritizePlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, Lauren and Chanler sit down with the legendary jewelry designer, Jade Trau, for a glimmering deep dive into the art of jewelry that empowers, carries memories, and actually fits your lifestyle. From self-gifting diamond bracelets to refreshing engagement rings, this episode is a masterclass in fine jewelry. ✨Check out Jade Trau jadetrau.com Use code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 10% off your orderCozy Earth: Go to cozyearth.com and use code POP for 40% off best-selling temperature-regulating sheets, apparel, and more.Hero Bread: Go to hero.co and use code POP at checkout to get 10% off your order.Quince: Go to Quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365 dayreturns.CashApp Download Today: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/5bx4lt9z #CashAppPodAs a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.(00:00:00) 💎 The Roman Empire Is Real — Lauren’s obsession with Jade, push presents, and showroom dreams(00:10:05) 🎯 Imposter Syndrome & Value — deciding to do the thing anyway(00:18:34) 💍 Jewelry As Identity — self-purchasing women, wearable power, and middle finger diamonds(00:28:41) 🌎 Jewelry & Sustainability — vintage stones, timelessness, and why it’s not like fast fashion(00:36:12) ✨ Where to Start — fine jewelry 101: ears first, personality always(00:39:48) 🧠 Styling with Intention — when jewelry feels like you, and why that’s everything(00:44:55) 💘 Engagement Ring Refresh — what’s trending (or not), and how to reimagine your forever(00:55:40) 🚩 Red Flags — what to watch for in quality, materials, and brandsPlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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From crayon-sketched love letters to a full-blown national manhunt, Lauren and Chanler unravel the sharpest left turn in Pop Apologists history. What starts as a casual Bin Laden doc spiral turns into a CIA-level obsession, a George Bush fangirl confession, and an unhinged (but stunning) PR breakdown of America’s longest-running villain arc.BetterHelp: Our listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS Wayfair: Shop outdoor furniture, grills, lawn games, and WAY more for WAY less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to explore a HUGE outdoor selection.Progressive: Give it a try at Progressive.com (00:00:00)💍 Next Week Teasers — Courtney Grow, Sam from Sauce Media, and Chanler’s wedding planner ep reveal(00:05:00) 🎯 Why Bin Laden? — Netflix recs, moral anxiety, and Obama’s situation room doc teaser(00:08:30) 👳‍♂️ Osama Bin Laden Origins — Billionaire roots, Mecca PR flops, and why he ghosted Saudi royalty(00:14:10) 💣 First Attacks + Fatwas — The Kenya and Tanzania embassy bombings and FBI’s first miss(00:22:55) 🕊️ 9/11 Memories — Living in New York post-attack, national grief, and the last time we all agreed on something(00:24:10) 💌 Chanler’s Letter to George Bush — American flags, colored pencils, and “wonderful presidents”(00:36:00) 🕵️‍♀️ The Woman Behind the Win — Torture, aliases, and the analyst who refused to let go(00:43:25) 📊 Obama’s Big Call — Debating the odds, scheduling the raid, and the worst neighbors ever(00:48:05) 🔫 The Kill Shot — 40 minutes, a hallway, and the quietest end to a global obsessionPlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It’s a LadyGang x Pop Apologists crossover! No dating dilemma is safe. Lauren and Chanler join forces with Becca, Keltie, and Jac to break down the ultimate red flags in a man. Everything from mattress-on-the-floor energy to exes who still use Snapchat. They swap stories about musicians with “permanent rizz,” weigh in on cat dads, cargo pants, and settle the debate once and for all: Can a man be too outdoorsy? 💌 Check out Lady World Festival: ladyworld.co🎧 Listen to the LadyGang podcast: LadyGangEarlybird: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% offQuince: Go to Quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365 returnsCozy Earth: Go to cozyearth.com and use code POP for 40% offProgressive: Give it a try at Progressive.com(00:00:00) 🎙️ The Girlies Meet — LadyGang joins the Pop Apologists for a red flag reckoning(00:03:00) 🎸 Dating the Same Guy from Panic! at the Disco — Mutual exes, fan blogs, and teen heartbreak origins(00:06:00) 🧠 Does Musician Rizz Expire? — Hot now, not later, and the Mark McGrath paradox(00:09:15) 🧢 Cargo Pants + Brad Falchuk — Gwyneth’s husband, Roman Empires, and unexpected green flags(00:11:50) 📱 Reels, Ring Lights, and the Male Influencer Ick — Social media addiction as a red flag(00:17:00) 🛋️ Furniture Fails + Red Flag Decor — Gaming chairs, mom co-signs, and bean bag nightmares(00:22:00) 📸 Venmos, Vibes, and Financial Reality Checks — Mint accounts, fake entrepreneurs, and how to math the math(00:28:30) 🏕️ Camping Trauma + Capitalism Compatibility — Tarps, canyons, and the war on flip flops(00:35:40) 🧾 Prenups, Debt Reveals, and the $10 Million Lie — Financial transparency vs. love blindness(00:44:55) 💔 Do Men Ever Change? — Ryan Ross, Jax Taylor, and the myth of the reformed cheater(00:47:10) 👻 Snapchat and Other Modern Red Flags — Disappearing messages, ex-girlfriend mysteries, and online horniness(00:48:40) 🔨 Sam Asghari: General Contractor Edition — Why construction jobs might be the new green flag(00:50:10) 💋 Do He Go Down Though? — Oral reciprocity, period squeamishness, and what it says about himPlease note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, the ultimate chaos agent Jessi Ngatikaura joins Lauren and Chanler to talk about fame, friendship feuds, and what really goes down behind the scenes of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. From business blow-ups to relationship red flags, Jessi doesn’t hold back—and neither do your hosts. 💅Check out Jessi on Instagram @jessijayngatikauraCheck out Jessi’s Hair Salon www.jzstyles.com (00:00:00) 🎥 Behind the Curtain — What Jessi didn’t expect when the show dropped, and how Utah reacted IRL.(00:04:58) 💇‍♀️ Faith, Hair, and Fallout — Running a business in Utah County, balancing Mormon expectations, and bracing for public backlash.(00:10:58) 📉 Jen & Zac’s Messy Arc — Church drama, text receipts, and one unexpected redemption arc.(00:14:50) 💬 Taylor Frankie Paul: Icon or Chaos? — Jessi’s real-life friendship with Taylor, her thoughts on Dakota, and what we didn’t see on camera.(00:18:30) 💥 Hairgate + Demigeddon — What really went down at Saints & Sinners, and why one healing session couldn’t fix the betrayal.(00:26:00) 🧪 Layla, Miranda, and the Spicy Cast Additions — Who brought it, who played it safe, and what’s coming next.(00:32:10) 🔄 Mormon Marriage + Glow-Ups — Jessi on her thyroid surgery, plastic surgery transparency, and the cultural double standards in Utah.(00:38:40) 🔮 Swinging Culture + Mormon Complications — Upside-down pineapples, spiritual loopholes, and what the church says (or doesn’t) about ketamine.(00:43:15) ⚔️ Mikayla vs. Whitney — Feuds, fractures, and where Jessi sees it all heading next season.(00:46:40) 🧁 MomTok Constitution? — Breadwinners, Botox, and redefining Mormon motherhood on TikTok.(00:50:05) 📣 Viewer DMs Save Lives — How Jessi caught a thyroid issue thanks to vigilant fans, and what her recovery journey looked like.Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chanler spiral through the chaos of quitting corporate life, the psychosis of mushroom pilots, and why Planet Bibi wants you to orgasm for an hour. They unpack Meghan and Harry’s long game (including a 2027 olive branch??), compare two wildly tone-deaf weddings, and read anonymous Hampton confessions that will make you think twice before trusting any Birkin. Plus: what Alex Cooper’s doc revealed, and how a TikTok account inspires Lauren.Check out our amazing sponsors:Clean Simple Eats: Shop CleanSimpleEats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off!Earlybird: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off.Rocket Money: Reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. RocketMoney.com/POPThrive Market: Head over to ThriveMarket.com/POP to get 30% off your first order and a FREE $60 gift.(00:00) 🧠 Chanler’s Meta exit, full-time freedom, and reclaiming her brain(08:05) ✈️ Plane crash psychosis + how to boof your way out of a nosedive(13:02) 🍄 Pilot on mushrooms and Lauren’s derealization trip in Mexico(19:07) 💦 Planet Bibi's 25 orgasms + bedroom ergonomics exposed(23:04) 🎧 Alex Cooper’s doc, her stalker coach, and becoming a one-woman media empire(29:01) 🎙️ Meghan Markle ends her podcast (again) + Emma Grede keeps it real(32:46) 👑 Meghan & Harry’s 2027 olive branch, royal family freeze-out, and Charles shade(36:55) 💒 Blake’s plantation wedding backlash + Bezos & Lauren’s chaotic Venice plans(41:01) 📱 Taylor and Blake’s texts ruled admissible—what are they hiding?(44:46) 🏛️ Daily Dose Donna’s site visit + Blake’s wedding venue in question(51:21) 💼 Hamptons club debt, fake Birkins, and financial denial in zip code 11937Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.