
Changelog Interviews
Conversations with the hackers, leaders, and innovators of the software world. Adam Stacoviak and Jerod Santo face their imposter syndrome so you don’t have to. Expect in-depth interviews with the best and brightest in software engineering, open source & leadership. This is a polyglot podcast. All programming languages, platforms & communities are welcome.
Latest episodes

Jun 5, 2015 • 1h 12min
Sustaining Open Source Software
Mike Perham joined the show to talk about sustaining open source software, living a healthy life, how to treat one another, and more.
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Featuring:Mike Perham – Website, GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:Mike Perham is a well known open source software developer and author of the beloved Sidekiq and Inspeqtor.
Mike Perham (@mperham) on Twitter
Mike Perham on Twitter “I would be happy to chat with podcasters or bloggers about sustainable OSS to raise more awareness of the subject.”
Sidekiq - background processing for Ruby
Inspeqtor - application infrastructure monitoring
The Changelog #130: Inspeqtor and OSS Products with Mike Perham
410 Gone on Twitter: “You can find me on github, but other than that, no more. Sorry. If it’s not directly related to work, I’m done.”
410 Gone on Twitter: “I also feel the need to say that this has been a few years’ coming, if you’re just reading my TL, you probably don’t get it.”
Daniel Stenberg (@bagder) on Twitter
Burnout — Medium
Medium search for “burnout”
Hacker News search for “burnout”
Rubber duck debugging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Help Ian Warshak Climb Mt Kilimanjaro (GoFundMe)
Buy a Changelog tee shirt for $20 (they’re super comfy)
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

May 29, 2015 • 1h 12min
Building Bridges
Sarah Allen, cofounder of RailsBridge and Bridge Foundry, joined the show to talk about the incredible ability to make something with software, leading and teaching a community, teaching programming to kids, programming is a life skill, and more.
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Featuring:Sarah Allen – Website, GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XBeverly Nelson – GitHub, XShow Notes:In her day job, Sarah works with 18F to transform US Government digital services, and in her spare time works to diversify Ruby on Rails with RailsBridge, and Bridge Foundry.
We also have Beverly Nelson joining today’s show as a guest host.
Sarah Allen (@ultrasaurus) on Twitter
on being an ally - the evolving ultrasaurus
the evolving ultrasaurus - Sarah Allen’s reflections on internet software and other topics
The Changelog #146: Mind the Gender Parity Gap with Sarah Mei
Git Resources for Visual Learners - The Changelog
Photosynthesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ng-bridge/organizing
Bridge Troll
railsbridge/bridge_troll
18F/midas
Midas
ENIAC
Kathleen “Kay” McNulty
Betty Jean Jennings
ENIAC Programmers Project
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

May 22, 2015 • 1h 14min
Modern WordPress using Bedrock and Sage
Ben Word and Scott Walkinshaw joined the show to talk about a more modern WordPress stack, Bedrock and Sage, dependency management, WordPress deployment, smarter development setup with tools like Ansible and Vagrant, and more.
If you’re someone who wants to use WordPress in more modern ways, this show is for you.
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Featuring:Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:Ben and Scott run Roots, a team of folks who help you build better WordPress sites faster with Bedrock and Sage.
Ben Word (@retlehs) on Twitter
Ben Word (@retlehs) on GitHub
Scott Walkinshaw (@swalkinshaw) on Twitter
Scott Walkinshaw (@swalkinshaw) on GitHub
Roots - Modern WordPress Development
Sage - WordPress Starter Theme
roots/sage
Bedrock - Modern WordPress Stack
roots/bedrock
Composer - Dependency Manager for PHP
Blueprint CSS (super old, but it’s where things began)
roots/bedrock-ansible
roots/roots-example-project.com
[Screencast] Using Composer With WordPress
Screencasts from Roots
The Changelog #142: Laravel PHP Framework with Taylor Otwell
Ansible - DevOps made simple
Vagrant - Create and configure lightweight, reproducible, and portable development environments
Varying-Vagrant-Vagrants/VVV
BrowserSync - Time-saving synchronised browser testing
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

May 19, 2015 • 44min
GopherCon 2015
Brian Ketelsen and Erik St. Martin, the organizers of GopherCon, joined the show to talk about what it takes to create and run a conference like GopherCon, the size of the event, the speaking track, after-parties, hack day, workshops, and more. We also covered their focus on diversity with their Diversity Scholarship Support Fund that anyone can support, even those who don’t plan to attend, as well as their child care options to ensure even those with children have the opportunity to attend.
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Featuring:Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:Changelog will be at GopherCon 2015! Yes, we’re taking The Changelog and Changelog Films on the road to cover GopherCon 2015 so make sure you say hi when you see us.
Erik St. Martin (@erikstmartin) | Twitter
erikstmartin (Erik St. Martin)
Brian Ketelsen (@bketelsen) | Twitter
bketelsen (Brian Ketelsen)
Gophercon 2015
Gophercon 2015 - Sponsors
GopherCon Kickoff Party - Denver Gophers Meetup (Tuesday, July 7, 2015)
Gophercon 2015 - After Party
The Changelog’s 2015 Conference Scene · Issue #129 · thechangelog/ping
Beyond Code - Season 1 Teaser
Changelog Weekly
Go in Action
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

May 16, 2015 • 1h 23min
The Future of Node.js
Scott Hammond, the CEO of Joyent, joined the show to talk about the history of Node, Joyent’s interest in Node, how they’ve handled the stewardship of Node over the years, their support of io.js joining Node Foundation, the convergence of the code bases for a stronger more inclusive Node community.
At the tail end of the show, just when you think it’s over, keep listening because we got Scott back on the call to discuss the news that came this week of the io.js TC voting to join Node Foundation.
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Featuring:Scott Hammond – Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:Joyent has been the core sponsor and steward of Node.js since its beginning.
@Scott_Hammond on Twitter
Joyent.com
Joyent on GitHub
@mikeal - “io.js TC just voted to join the Node Foundation.”
io.js TC Meeting 2015-05-13
io.js TC Meeting 2015-05-13 Issue on GitHub
merge vs rebase ontop of io.js (GitHub Issue #6)
Node.js Advisory Board
Growing Up - io.js needs a foundation
joyent/node
iojs/io.js
node.js & io.js convergence repo - jasnell/node.js-convergence
The Node.js Foundation benefits all
Node.js and io.js leaders are building an open, neutral Node.js Foundation to support the future of the platform
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

May 16, 2015 • 1h 12min
All Things Ruby with 2015's Ruby Heroes
Our guests this week are 2015’s RUBY HEROES! Big show today, lots of great Ruby talk with these heroes, great insights from this past year of Ruby, and more.
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Featuring:Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:And here are this year’s Ruby Heroes:
Eileen Uchitelle - @eileencodes
Jeremy Evans - @jeremyevans0
Nobuyoshi Nakada - @n0kada
Sam Saffron - @samsaffron
Sarah Mei - @sarahmei
Zachary Scott - @_zzak
Ruby Hero Awards
Ruby Heroes Awards Video
nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada)
eileencodes (Eileen M. Uchitelle)
sarahmei (Sarah Mei)
zzak (Zachary Scott)
jeremyevans (Jeremy Evans)
SamSaffron (Sam)
hone (Terence Lee)
Gregg (Gregg Pollack)
mruby
ko1 (Koichi Sasada)
Opal: Ruby to Javascript Compiler
Roda: Routing Tree Web Framework Toolkit
seattlerb/minitest
discourse/discourse_docker
Ruby Together
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May 1, 2015 • 1h 5min
17 Years of curl
Daniel Stenberg joined the show to talk about curl and libcurl and how he has spent at least 2 hours every day for the past 17 years working on and maintaining curl. That’s over 13k hours! We covered the origins of curl, how he chooses projects to work on, why he has remained so dedicated to curl all these years, the various version control systems curl has used, licensing, and more.
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Featuring:Daniel Stenberg – Website, GitHub, Mastodon, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:We talk through the past 17 years of this staple tool to the community and hear what Daniel has learned on his journey.
Follow Daniel on Twitter
daniel.haxx.se
Daniel Stenberg on YouTube
curl and libcurl
curl on the NASDAQ tower
curl, 17 years old today
curl - Changes
curl - Companies Using curl
curl - Man page
curl - THANKS
Make a Donation to the curl Project
The commit that started it all – bagder/curl
Listen to the teaser for this episode to learn about a “magic feature” of curl that’s been there for over 6 years
Richard Stallman’s Personal Page
Richard Stallman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Linus Torvalds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Apr 30, 2015 • 2min
BONUS — Magic cURL Feature
This is a bonus clip from the after call with Daniel Stenberg for episode #153. Daniel shared the details of a “magic feature” in cURL that’s been there for over 6 years. It’s a feature he feels most people don’t know exists.
Join the discussionChangelog++ members support our work, get closer to the metal, and make the ads disappear. Join today!Featuring:Daniel Stenberg – Website, GitHub, Mastodon, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:To start using this “magic feature”, create a .curlrc dotfile in your root with the following settings to set the -O flag by default on all URLs fetched using cURL.
# Default to -O
--remote-name-all
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Apr 24, 2015 • 1h 23min
TypeScript and open source at Microsoft
Anders Hejlsberg and Jonathan Turner from the TypeScript team at Microsoft joined the show to talk about TypeScript, a typed superset of JavaScript that compiles to plain JavaScript from Microsoft. We cover Microsoft’s acceptance and support of open source, why they open sourced TypeScript, the language design, adoption, how to get started, and the future of the language.
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Featuring:Anders Hejlsberg – GitHub, XJonathan Turner – Website, GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:Anders is the language architect and Jonathan is the Program Manager for TypeScript.
Roadmap · Microsoft/TypeScript Wiki
Microsoft/TypeScript
Welcome to TypeScript
Follow Jonathan Turner on Twitter
Follow Anders Hejlsberg on Twitter
Delphi (programming language) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Turbo Pascal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Handbook - Welcome to TypeScript
Microsoft/TypeScript-Sublime-Plugin
palantir/eclipse-typescript
atom-typescript
borisyankov/DefinitelyTyped
Home | DefinitelyTyped
TypeScript/spec.md at master · Microsoft/TypeScript
Algorithms + Data Structures = Programs (Prentice-Hall Series in Automatic Computation): Niklaus Wirth: 9780130224187: Amazon.com: Books
Niklaus Wirth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Architectural Overview · Microsoft/TypeScript Wiki
The Changelog #134: Open Sourcing .NET Core with the Microsoft .NET team
The Changelog #148: The State of Go in 2015 with Andrew Gerrand
The Changelog #151: Rust with Steve Klabnik and Yehuda Katz
Monaca
Gerrit Code Review
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Apr 11, 2015 • 1h 22min
The Rust Programming Language
Steve Klabnik and Yehuda Katz joined the show to talk about the Rust Programming Language, a systems programming language from Mozilla Research. We covered memory safety without garbage collection, security, the Rust 1.0 Beta, getting started with Rust, and we even hypothesize about the future of the Rust.
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Featuring:Steve Klabnik – Website, GitHub, XYehuda Katz – Website, GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:Steve and Yehuda are core team members of Rust.
Steve Klabnik
Yehuda Katz
Steve Klabnik comments on “Rust 1.0.0 beta is here!” on Reddit
Rust Means Never Having to Close a Socket
The Rust Programming Language
The Rust Programming Language on Reddit
Style Guidelines
Cargo, Rust’s Package Manager
Zinc: An experimental attempt to write an ARM stack that would be similar to CMSIS or mbed in capabilities but would show rust’s best safety features applied to embedded development.
Skylight
Is the six-week release cycle too frequent? - Proposals - Ember.JS
Yehuda Katz on Twitter: “Just posted a long set of thoughts on the 6-week-release-cycle discussion we’ve been having on the Ember Discourse”
Let’s Talk About Rust by Yehuda Katz - Confreaks TV
The Rust Book
Rust by Example
Rust for Rubyists
Rust Users Forum
Rust Development Forum (Internals)
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!