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Jul 11, 2024 • 33min

Episode 88: Practitioner Guides: #2 Contributor Sustainability

Dawn Foster and Elizabeth Barron discuss open source contributor sustainability, emphasizing the impact on project viability, avoiding single points of failure, and the human aspect of contributions. They highlight the importance of practitioner guides, proactive community building, and valuing all contributors. Practical strategies and examples are shared for long-term project success.
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Jun 27, 2024 • 38min

Episode 87: Celebrating 2 years of CHAOSS Africa

Thank you to the folks at Sustain for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 87 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Elizabeth Barron is joined by panelists Anita Ihuman and Ruth Ikegah, along with guests, Enock Kasaadha and Maryblessing Okolie, as they delve into the experiences and contributions of CHAOSS Africa, a regional chapter of the CHAOSS Project. They share personal stories of how they got involved in open source, the influence of CHAOSS Africa on their careers, and the community's growth over the past two years. Discussion highlights include the importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion, the supportive nature of the CHAOSS community, and future aspirations for CHAOSS Africa. Press download to hear much more! [00:03:34] Ruth shares her journey into open source which began out of curiosity during her microbiology studies when she observed a friend participating in an open source project via a Google meet call. [00:06:13] Enock describes his transition from software development to open source, highlighting the initial challenges he faced finding a welcoming community. He praises CHAOSS for their newcomer-friendly environment. [00:07:51] Maryblessing got into open source after being introduced through a friend who participated in an Outreachy internship, she then joined CHAOSS. Initially, she observed the community to understand how her skills could contribute, and over time she became an active participant. [00:10:24] Anita shares a similar background with Ruth, having been classmates. Her interest in open source grew as she saw peers making significant contributions to tech, which encouraged her to engage in open source, leading her to CHAOSS. [00:13:11] The discussion switches to how CHAOSS Africa came to be. Ruth explains how she transitioned from GNOME to CHAOSS through her interactions with other open source contributors. She credits Outreachy, an internship program that CHAOSS participated in, and highlights the role of the DI (Diversity and Inclusion) audits team and the Ford Foundation in recognizing the contributions of African members. [00:19:18] Elizabeth asks about the impact of open source and CHAOSS on their lives. Enock responds, detailing how CHAOSS acts as an incubator for learning open source contributions skills, which are transferable to other communities. He emphasizes the values of patience, trust, and appreciation cultivated within the CHAOSS community. [00:24:10] Maryblessing emphasizes how the community has helped advance her career, particularly in managing volunteers, appreciating diversity and inclusion, and improving her decision-making processes. She highlights how CHAPSS has enabled her to engage effectively in other communities and appreciate the role of non-coding contributions in open source projects. [00:28:12] Anita shares that CHAOSS has broadened her understanding of community health beyond resolving disputes, revealing the multifaceted nature of building a healthy community. She appreciates how her involvement in CHAOSS has allowed her to explore non-coding roles in open source. [00:29:56] The discussion shifts to the future of CHAOSS Africa, with Ruth and Enock envisioning greater expansion across the continent. They discuss supporting local events and including more countries in their efforts. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:34:01] Elizabeth’s pick is reconnecting with old friends. [00:34:46] Enock’s pick is motivation is overrated. [00:35:25] Anita’s pick is the recent feedback from her company on her efforts. [00:35:50] Maryblessing’s pick is Notion. [00:36:12] Ruth’s pick is being at peace and worrying less. Panelists: Elizabeth Barron Anita Ihuman Ruth Ikegah Guests: Enock Kasaadha Maryblessing Okolie Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project X/Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Elizabeth Barron X/Twitter Ruth Ikegah X/Twitter Ruth Ikegah LinkedIn Anita Ihuman LinkedIn Anita Ihuman GitHub Enock Kasaadha Website Enock Kasaadha LinkedIn Maryblessing Okolie Website Maryblessing Okolie LinkedIn Ford Foundation CHAOSS Africa GitHub CHAOSS Africa Open Collective CHAOSS Project Africa X/Twitter Outreachy GNOME Maryblessing Okolie’s talk at Berlin Buzzwords (YouTube) Notion Join the CHAOSS Africa Slack channelSpecial Guests: Anita ihuman, Enock Kasaadha, and Maryblessing Okolie.Support CHAOSScast
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Jun 13, 2024 • 45min

Episode 86: The Turing Institute: Using AI ethically with the power of Open Source

Guests from The Alan Turing Institute discuss using AI ethically with open source. They cover the institute's strategic vision and projects like The Turing Way. Topics include community building, ethical AI, CHAOSS metrics integration, and future initiatives.
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May 30, 2024 • 32min

Episode 85: Introducing CHAOSS Practitioner Guides: #1 Responsiveness

Dawn Foster, author of the Responsiveness Guide for CHAOSS, discusses the challenges of interpreting data and metrics in projects. The conversation emphasizes actionable insights for improvement and the risks of misinterpreting metrics. They stress the importance of context and project team involvement. Future directions for the guide series and community contributions are also covered.
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May 16, 2024 • 35min

Episode 84: Community Viability - how Verizon thinks about OSS risk

Gary White, Principal Engineer at Verizon, discusses viability metrics models for OSS risk at Verizon. Topics include creating and simplifying models, using Augur for metrics, and challenges in deploying metrics within organizations. The conversation also covers the importance of community engagement, the role of libyres in risk assessment, and Verizon's approach to software viability metrics. Emphasis is placed on engaging with different metric models, enforcing terms on OSS, and supporting projects through active involvement.
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May 2, 2024 • 46min

Episode 83: Metrics for Organizational and Digital Infrastructure with Edward Vielmetti

In this episode, host Georg and Dawn chat with Edward Vielmetti from Equinix about measuring open source community health using CHAOSS metrics. They discuss project health metrics, challenges of open source governance, and the impact of corporate involvement. Edward shares insights on infrastructure support, project stability, and the importance of monitoring metrics for future projections.
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Apr 25, 2024 • 39min

Episode 82: The AI Conundrum: Implications for OSPOs

Dive into the AI conundrum with Matt Germonprez, Brian Proffitt, and Ashley Wolf as they discuss AI's impact on OSPOs, generative tools, workload for maintainers, and the quality of contributions. Explore challenges of aligning policies, distinguishing human from AI contributions, and the potential benefits and risks AI brings to open source projects. A mix of optimism and caution sets the tone for the AI-integrated future of open source.
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Mar 12, 2024 • 40min

Episode 81: Managing Federal CHAOSS at CMS.gov

Thank you to the folks at Sustain for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 80 On today’s episode of CHAOSScast, we focus on the experiences and initiatives of the Open Source Program Office at the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). Host Dawn Foster is joined by Sean Goggins along with guests, Remy DeCausemaker, Natalia Luzuriaga, Isaac Milarsky, and Aayat Ali, all from various backgrounds within the CMS, who share insights into their efforts in maintaining and promoting an open source culture within federal services. Key discussion points include the launch of the CMS’s first open source program office, the development of a maturity model framework to evaluate open source projects, the creation of tools such as Repo Scaffolder and Duplifier to support open source practices, and efforts towards open source software security. This episode emphasizes the distinct aspects of opens source work in government settings compared to the private sector and highlights upcoming presentations at conferences. Download this episode now to hear more! [00:02:21] Dawn asks about the team’s work at the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. We start with Remy, who explains the launch of the first open source program office at a federal agency in the U.S. and details CMS’s mission to improve healthcare experience for over 150 million people and the role of the digital service within CMS. [00:05:36] Natalia discusses the maturity model framework developed to assess the open source maturity level of projects. She describes a “Repo Scaffolder” tool created in collaboration with the U.S. digital response to help projects align with the majority model, and she speaks about additional features for public repositories to aid in development. [00:10:51] Isaac takes over, explaining how they use Auger metrics and “Nadia labeling” to categorize projects and encourage the adoption of their maturity model. He details a metrics website that provides visual representations of project health and activity and introduces “Duplifier,” a deduplication tool for healthcare data, which uses an open source library called Splink. [00:15:14] Sean inquires how they actualize their user needs in metrics visualization and about the process that informs the creation of these visual metrics. Isaac addresses front-end design aspects of metric visualization and the importance of making the metrics understandable at a glance. Natalia emphasizing designing for both technical and non-technical stakeholders, ensuring metrics are clear and understandable. [00:17:44] Aayat discusses her role in strategy development and the creation of a CMS OSPO guide. She emphasizes advocacy withing CMS for open source and plans to conduct workshops and usability testing to determine which metrics are most valuable to stakeholders. [00:19:23] Remy talks about consulting with the chief information security officer and the chief information officer for internal metric priorities and engaging with an external OSPO metrics working group convened by CHAOSS for broader insights. [00:20:47] Dawn asks Remy for more details on the differences with government engagement in open source to the corporate environments. Remy describes the early journey of OSPOs at the federal level and contrasts it with his private sector experience. [00:25:18] Sean asks about what success would look like a year from now for the OSPO group’s work. Remy acknowledges the limited four-year term for digital service members, emphasizing the urgency to execute and make an impact within the next year. He highlights the transformative impact of Isaac and Natalia’s entrance into the program and the successful shipping of the metrics website, a deduplication tool, and other repositories. [00:27:50] Isaac envisions success as propagating maturity models and open source standards throughout the government, demonstrating value to stakeholders, and growing the OSPO. Natalia is excited to share their foundational OSPO work and contribute to open data initiatives and mentions speaking this year at the Linux Foundation Open Source Summit and PyCon about their work. Aayat defines success as achieving goals in source code stewardship, understanding the maturity and content of repositories, and supporting the team in communicating the value of open source. [00:29:53] Remy brings up Nadia Eghbal giving her credit for influential work and mentioning a team book club inspired by her writings. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:32:39] Dawn’s pick is Beat Saber for indoor workouts. [00:33:05] Sean’s pick is the HBO max show, True Detective, Season 4. [00:33:22] Remy’s pick is the BRAVO Hackathon Series he recently attended. [00:38:14] Natalia’s pick is visiting her local library and getting a library card. [00:38:39] Aayat’s pick is a good book she read called, “Demon Copperhead.” [00:39:36] Isaac’s pick is enjoying the nice weather and getting outside. **Panelists: Dawn Foster Sean Goggins Guests: Remy DeCausemaker Natalia Luzuriaga Isaac Milarsky Aayat Ali Links: CHAOSS CHAOSS Project X/Twitter CHAOSScast Podcast podcast@chaoss.community Georg Link Website Dawn Foster X/Twitter Sean Goggins X/Twitter Remy DeCausemaker X/Twitter Remy DeCausemaker LinkedIn Natalia Luzuriaga LinkedIn Isaac Milarsky LinkedIn Aayat Ali LinkedIn Aayat Ali Website CMS.gov Digital Service at CMS (DSACMS)-GitHub Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services-GitHub United States Digital Corps Splink Repo Scaffolder-GitHub Metrics Dashboard for CMS Open Source Projects Repo Metrics Website github-ospo The Linux Foundation Open Source Summit-April 16-18, 2024, Seattle, WA PyCon US-May 15-23, 2024-Pittsburgh, PA Nadia Asparouhova (aka Nadia Eghbal) Website Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure by Nadia Eghbal CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 77: Open Source Metrics at Microsoft Beat Saber True Detective-Season 4 (HBO max) BRAVO Hackathon Series Demon Copperhead by Barbara KingsolverSpecial Guests: Aayat Ali, Isaac Milarsky, Natalia Luzuriaga, and Remy DeCausemaker.Support CHAOSScast
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Feb 28, 2024 • 53min

Episode 80: Counting Potatoes vs. Computational Mysticism - Using CHAOSS for Research

Researchers discuss their experiences with CHAOSS metrics and software, emphasizing standardization for consistency. They explore challenges in metric definitions, bridging academia and industry, and the importance of collaboration. The podcast also touches on data privacy, cultural context in data analysis, and the impact of CHAOSS metrics on open-source communities.
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Feb 21, 2024 • 1h 1min

Episode 79: The Mechanics of CHAOSS: A Deep Dive into Open Source Community Health Analytics

Thank you to the folks at Sustain for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! In this collaboration between the CHAOSS Cast and Mechanical Ink podcasts, hosts Dawn Foster and Schalk Neethling are joined by guests Daniel Izquierdo and Sean Goggins to discuss open source community health metrics. The focus is on providing an overview of two projects under the CHAOSS (Community Health Analytics for Open Source Software) umbrella - GrimoireLab and Augur. These open source tools gather data from diverse sources and analyze it to provide insights into open-source community health. The episode brings together two fascinating open source projects - GrimoireLab and Augur - that aim to provide insights into the health of open-source software communities. By gathering data from various platforms and channels, and analyzing contributor activity, issues, pull requests, and conversations, these projects shine a light on the inner workings of open-source projects. You have Sean Goggins, a university researcher who co-created Augur to dissect community interactions at scale. Then you have Daniel Izquierdo whose startup Bitergia built GrimoireLab to offer open source analytics as a service. Both share insightful stories on the evolving landscape of inner source and metrics-driven community management. It's a great listen for anyone involved in running open-source projects or communities. Beyond project leads, the conversation also touches on why understanding community health is vital today for enterprise adopters to track their dependencies and influence. And as Dawn Foster from CHAOSS chips in, you get an important reminder to not get carried away chasing tools without clarity on what specific questions you want answered from the underlying data. Overall, a stimulating mix of history and future direction on using metrics to guide open-source communities toward greater sustainability. Guests Daniel Izquierdo: Co-founder and CEO of Bitergia, co-founder of CHAOSS, President of InnerSource Commons Sean Goggins: Professor of Computer Science at the University of Missouri, maintainer of Augur software package in CHAOSS Key Topics Discussed Origins and goals of the CHAOSS project Overview of GrimoireLab Overview of Augur Supporting analysis across diverse data sources Focus areas and roadmaps Getting involved in the projects Links Mentioned CHAOSS (chaoss.community) GrimoireLab (grimoirelab.github.io) Augur (augurlabs.io) Cauldron instance (cauldron.io) Public Augur instance (metrics.chaoss.io) OSS Compass (oss.compass.community) Special Guest: Schalk Neethling.Support CHAOSScast

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