The Patrick Madrid Show

Patrick unpacks listener questions about why bishops can’t marry, offers candid advice on dealing with awkward moral conversations at family events, and doesn’t shy away from what he thinks about clapping or disruptions in church. He clarifies the real story behind Adam and Eve’s children, addresses concerns about hypnotism and teens with cell phones, and draws sharp lines on what should, and shouldn’t, be open to discussion in modern classrooms. Stories, tough calls, and unexpected perspectives roll in rapid succession.   Eva (email) - Can you talk today about the first reading from Timothy and the bishop being married? I mean, I know Deacons can be married currently, but the bishop? (01:03) Steve - How did the world get populated by Adam and Eve? Did Cain have children with his siblings? (12:05) All of the Charlie Kirk related audio we’ve played on the show has been posted in one spot on Facebook and X (21:02) Ellie (email) - Several members of the congregation responded vocally to what the priest was saying in his homily. For instance, when the priest asked a rhetorical question, some of the congregants would loudly answer the question. Not only that, but some of the parishioners waved their hands in the air. (25:37) Ruben (email) – Is the Vatican having a LGBQT event? Michael (email) - Do you really believe that today, in the 21st century, a man with a hunting rifle, assault rifle or any kind of firearm could stand a chance against the might of the United States military? (30:03) Heberto (email) - Is hypnotism a sin? (33:23) John (email) – I don’t understand how X (twitter) works (38:45) Audio: Teacher training model for school district in Naperville references topics that are closed for discussion because they are “settled” by social scientists, and students should not be allowed to discuss any opposing views in the classroom. For example, global warning and systemic racism have already been settled per this clip and are not open to discussion on if it exists but only what to do about it. (41:22) Jacob (14-years-old) - When should I get a smart phone? (47:09)

Patrick explores questions from listeners about the “Flame of Love” devotion, tackles the discernment of Church-approved practices, and offers candid, faithful advice on friendships, family, and Catholic life. Between fielding calls about parish trends, guiding parents on teen dances, and responding to big questions with both humor and seriousness, Patrick manages a lively, unpredictable show where faith and reality intersect. Even birthday wishes and mariachi jokes make an appearance, keeping the conversation moving fast and full of surprises.   Annemarie - The Flame of Love Devotion at my parish changes the Hail Mary. They pray this at my Church. Is this wrong? (00:37) Fay - I went to a retreat that didn’t seem Catholic. They were doing praise and worship. Was this wrong? Do you have any advice? (06:13) Jim - What was the first moral lesson that Jesus taught? (11:17) Grace - What can I do about stopping people from receiving Communion? (12:55) Gracie (email) – Was Charlie really a racist? (21:11) Michael (email) - I can't wait to one day call in, lead off my call with a rehearsed mariachi whistle, and fail epically in front of "just you and millions of people listening." James (email) - Thank you for mentioning that I should pray to my guardian angel to cleanse my memory.  It brought me a lot of peace yesterday! (26:31) Annie (email) - I think words can be violent. Such as verbal abuse. We were verbally abused by our father. He regularly called us names when he was unhappy with us or just to make fun of us. So, do you agree that words can sometimes be violent? (30:40) Nicole - Is it ok for my daughter to go to a school dance with a non-Catholic boy? Should she go with a group or by herself? (32:41) Clarisa (email) - I felt very compelled to reach out to you after listening to your show yesterday. It was brought up whether or not it was appropriate to speak about our dear brother, Charlie Kirk at the pulpit. Well, I would have liked to have it done at our Mass over the weekend. (39:59) Patrick comments on the people who celebrated Kirk’s murder on their social media are being fired from their jobs

Patrick unpacks the public reaction to Charlie Kirk’s murder, focusing on the moral backlash against those celebrating the tragedy and the wave of firings and exposure that followed. He fields questions about Kirk’s approach and challenges perceptions, weaving in raw perspectives from callers, many reflecting on race, online culture, forgiveness, and how real-world consequences ripple out from digital outrage. Voices from the black community add truth and tension, sharpening the episode’s call for clarity, dialogue, and deeper humanity in a fractured society.   Patrick comments on the people who celebrated Kirk’s murder on their social media are being fired from their jobs (00:25) Audio: Scott Jennings on backlash against anti-CK rhetoric (03:24) Terry (email) - I don’t understand why you so wholeheartedly supported Charlie Kirk. I’ve watched several of his debates, and to me, he comes across as self-righteous, confrontational and condescending, not very Christ-like. (05:47) Miss Williams - I do agree with you about most of the things you say. I'm not a republican or democrat. Charlie Kirk's views are his views. What happened to him is sad because it happened to him in front of his family. I think of the Kennedy assassination. We need to do something about guns. Where was his security? We Americans need to do better. (11:15) Audio: Charlie Kirk Didn't Even Believe In Race (25:29) Anthony - Want to thank Patrick for what he does best. I've been listening for years. Such good values and such an awesome person. (30:30) Don - A lot of people who didn't like Charlie Kirk didn't like him because he liked Trump. (31:53) James (email) - H.G. Wells had a poignant message in his book.  When the man Griffin loses his body (becomes invisible) he loses his conscience and becomes a sociopath-murderer.  So, with Social Media, when we lose our face-to-face interactions, we are being trained to be sociopathic.  The smartphone has magnified these interactions and put them in our pocket, and they are displacing actual human interaction. (36:26) Dee Dee - Concerning the murder of Charlie Kirk: I just wanted to bring the fact that as Catholics, we should be an example of how to behave. (40:20) Heidi - I hope this troubled young man gets life in prison instead of the death penalty. He needs God's mercy. I fear if he's given the death penalty, some will see him as a martyr. (47:44) Mary - When I discussed Charlie Kirk with my sister, she said there are extremists on both sides. (49:29)

Patrick fields thought-provoking questions ranging from whether Jesus ever lost his temper to the challenges of having charitable discussions with relatives from other faith backgrounds. In the same breath, he addresses concerns about Mass being held in a home, unpacks why Catholic and Protestant Bibles have different books, and responds candidly to community reactions on the absence of commentary about Charlie Kirk’s assassination at church. Wisdom and practicality shape Patrick’s responses, blending pastoral warmth with historical context and real-world advice.   April - Was Jesus losing his temper when calling the Canaanite woman a dog? (52:00) Valerie - How do I talk to an Uncle who is 7th Day Adventist? How should I handle debating him? (07:57) Sylvia - A family invited us to go to mass at their house. Would it be a sin to go to mass there for a funeral? (19:36) Chad - What are the origins of the Catholic Bible vs the origins of the Protestant Bible? (22:31) Patrick comments on the many people who are angry or upset that they didn’t hear about Charlie Kirk at Church on Sunday (37:04) Rick - What security measures should Catholic Schools have? The principal of the school that my granddaughter goes to says that ultimately God is in control of our security. (45:06)

Patrick challenges listeners with raw questions about faith, public grief, and how Christian teachings intersect with justice and cultural controversies. He fields calls from individuals wrestling with anger, searching for hope, and scrutinizes common misconceptions about Kirk’s beliefs, using direct audio and candid reflection.   John - You are 100% right. Bringing up Charlie Kirk is not the time or the place. How can we support the death penalty? (00:34) Audio: Charlie Kirk praises black people – A Black commentator provides Proves That Charlie Kirk Was Not Racist (06:34) Audio: Charlie Kirk debates anti-gay man who doesn’t want gays in the conservative moment (11:20) Doug - Do you actually believe that there is no reason to give the death penalty? What about cold-blooded murderers? Bible does allow death penalty. (22:07) Victor - I wish that someone could have mentioned Charlie Kirk in the intentions, which didn't happen. (30:07) Audio: Man buys his first suit and is going to wear it at Church and he thanks his wife and Charlie Kirk (38:58) Paul - I think there is too much focus on Charlie Kirk and not enough focus on the Catholic faith? (43:46)

Patrick takes raw calls from people wrestling with grief, troubling media images, and the tangled accusations swirling around Kirk’s legacy. Patrick brings clarity and perspective, breaking down the context behind controversial clips, examining claims of racism, and weaving in Catholic responses of prayer and forgiveness. Amid confusion and unrest, Patrick moves the discussion toward truth, growth, and how even tragedy sparks unexpected conversions and moments of faith.   Michelle - I am confused. We are talking a lot about Charlie Kirk. What if a gay or trans person came to your Catholic Church and wanted to serve in the Church. What would Patrick do? (00:43) Estelita (email) - I am one of those who have seen the shooting through the internet unfiltered and uncensored, and it has stirred something in me that I am trying to process. Could you give us, who have seen this clip, your thoughts to help us go through this horrendous event? (04:56) Wally - How I feel as a Catholic immigrant black woman from Cameroon that has been in America for 25 years.  Kirk has said hateful things about my race and other minorities.  When people die, I don't focus on the good.  I concentrate on prayers for purgatory. (13:23) Audio: A black woman posts her thoughts about Charlie Kirk “he was showing a lot of people who were blind to wake up”. I followed him very closely and he is not racist. (17:41) Audio: I can’t find the racist statements that people are posting (3 black commentators talk about how Charlie Kirk was not racist) (28:46) Audio: Same 3 black commentators share clips of Charlie Kirk debating a woman about how blacks are not better off now than they were 80 years ago Patrick shares the entire Charlie Kirk quote that’s been taken out of context about “gun deaths are unfortunately worth it to keep the 2nd Amendment.” (33:16) Joshua – Is the soul of Charlie Kirk still alive, like when Jesus raised Lazarus? (39:44) Jose - Hearing Charlie Kirk has made me want to be a better Christian. (44:49) Kim - I've been praying for my sons to come back to the faith. I think they are being led by Charlie Kirk to come back to the faith.  It’s given me hope. (48:21) Nader - I'm a truck driver, and prayer life is helping me (49:40)

Patrick opens with shock and sorrow at the assassination of Charlie Kirk, questioning the future of public discourse and the fragility of free speech after such violence. Nearly overwhelmed by the mix of mourning and celebration he witnesses, Patrick reflects candidly on personal encounters with anger and the fractured state of the country, setting the tone with tough questions and honest stories from callers grappling with the aftermath. Far from resigned, Patrick exposes the painful reactions online, the challenge of maintaining empathy, and the deep ache for unity in a cultural storm that feels relentless.   Audio: Charlie Kirk: They’re gonna try everything possible to murder me Audio: Charlie Kirk and Bill Maher are polar opposites — but Kirk’s style made finding common ground easy (15:34) Cody - I was disturbed by a liberal person saying that Kirk died because of things that he said. (20:22) Audio: Benny Johnson stands up for Charlie Kirk while talking with Chris Cuomo for implying the hate is coming from both sides including from Charlie Kirk (27:08) Patrick shares a letter from his daughter about how awful it is to see a murder on social media (30:47) Joe - People celebrating Charlie Kirk dying: If we do that, we need to take a look in the mirror and realize who we really are. (38:24) Audio: Utah Governor: Russia and China Bots Are Pushing Disinformation and Violence – Charlie Kirk said it best, but your phones down and hug your family (41:19) Elizabeth - This slippery slope started with visiting students shutting down visiting speakers. We have a generation that has been taught that we don't have to listen or engage with the other side. (44:18) Ken - I am a liberal and believe in live and let live. It is a shame that we have right vs left. I think that the distribution of wealth is what causes problems. I think the government needs to close that gap and that would fix problem of extremism. I feel terrible about Kirk. (49:04)

Patrick reflects on the assassination of Charlie Kirk with raw honesty, giving a voice to heartbreak and confusion filling the airwaves. He balances faith, grief, and sharp cultural observations as callers recount moments of public violence, shaken, yearning, praying for both unity and a return of human decency. Every call, every pause, and every scriptural reference lands like a stone dropped in water, sending out ripples of both pain and hope.   Audio: Charlie Kirk talks about Jesus Live Press Conference: We got him. (34:41) Jeannie - Are we able to unify with people who disagree with us? I don't think we can. I think a degree of fear is necessary at this point but don't think it should keep us from speaking the truth. (17:10) Paul - If there is a positive that could come out of this, everyone who has never heard of Kirk, they are going to seek out what he said. (25:26) Martin - What would Charlie do? I hope we can pray for shooter and that we can respond without vitriol. (29:21) Clementine - I was alive when Kennedy was shot. I remember running out of my house to tell my neighbor. He told me that was good, somebody had to do it. was more painful than the shooting. (36:40) Paula – I’m concerned about what the media is putting out. There is so much hatred. I hope people will be more open as Charlie Kirk was. (44:19) Sophia - I am 25 years old. I am devastated. I never found myself religious or political. Charlie gave me the opportunity to think about things in a different light. (47:56)

Patrick brings listeners into the immediate aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, airing Governor Spencer Cox’s emotional press conference on what this tragedy means for the nation and for free speech. Callers and Patrick exchange raw reactions, searching for hope while wrestling with anger, grief, and the overwhelming influence of social media algorithms on public perception. He threads faith with frank conversation, questioning whether unity is possible in a deeply divided country and urging compassion, truth, and the courage to listen.   Audio: Utah Governor Cox – We must be able to have a clash of ideas without violence (01:22) *Stuart - Patrick how do you think we can heal as a nation from this? (11:42) Audio: This is how Charlie Kirk debated and interacted with folks struggling with confusion and dysphoria concerning their biology (21:20) Eileen - I am really conflicted because I am grieving for the loss of life of Charlie, yet I am also hearing a lot of negative things. I feel like the weird one. How is it that we as a nation don't see this the same way? (23:05) Aaron – I hear a deep pain in you and it hurts me (30:16) Patrick shares “I Would Have Liked Charlie to Have Those Years” (42:46)

Patrick stands with a nation stunned by the assassination of Charlie Kirk, a young father and bold voice for open dialogue, killed while addressing students. The episode unfolds with raw reactions from callers, honest prayers, and pointed questions about faith, violence, and what it means to debate without resorting to hate. Every moment aches with the reality of loss as Patrick threads together Kirk’s legacy, the demand for respectful disagreement, and the heartbreak of seeing violence silence conversation.   Audio: Live Action - Charlie Kirk reminded us that a life of courage and virtue isn’t easy—but it’s worth living. His example should inspire us all to stand boldly for what’s right Carmen - This has been really hard for me. (27:22) Mary - I feel like this is kind of the official end of the Democrat Party being the party of anti-gun and peace and love. Thank you for providing a form to talk about these issues from a Catholic perspective. Stacy - My daughter texted me from school within 8 minutes after this happened. This was really shocking to me. Charlie has a had a great impact on the youth. (44:35)