The Clearing with Katherine May

Katherine May
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13 snips
Jan 31, 2026 • 9min

Season One Interlude

Katherine talks about the importance of rest during difficult times. She explores guilt and the complexity of stepping back instead of carrying on. She celebrates whimsy as a quiet form of resilience. She outlines a relaxed, low-pressure recording rhythm and seasonal breaks. She previews listener-led bonus content coming next season.
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Jan 24, 2026 • 1h 1min

Ece Temelkuran’s landscape of belonging

Ece Temelkuran, writer and political commentator who warned about rising authoritarianism, reflects on exile, home and rebuilding belonging. She talks about putting her heart on ice, finding comfort in small rituals, treasured objects and food, and how trees and landscapes shape moral life. Short, intimate scenes of rest, ritual and the slow work of repair.
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Jan 17, 2026 • 55min

Kaitlin Curtice’s sanctuary of the subconscious

Kaitlin Curtice, an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi nation and author, shares her insights on creating a mental seaside cottage during the pandemic. She explores the beauty of aging as a healing process and the wisdom found in stillness. Kaitlin discusses the significance of retreats, emphasizing the art of listening to both nature and ancestral voices. With reflections on storytelling, communal ties, and the importance of rituals, she highlights how these practices can deeply nourish the spirit and creativity.
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Jan 10, 2026 • 1h 11min

Martha Beck and Rowan Mangan on the magic of communing with every living thing

Martha Beck, a bestselling author and life coach, joins her wife, Rowan Mangan, a writer focused on neurodivergence, for a captivating discussion. They dive into the consciousness of stones and the sentience of nature, reflecting on how our culture often dismisses these connections. The couple shares insights on parenting neurodivergent children, embracing impermanence, and the role of life coaching as a modern shamanic practice. Together, they explore how solitude fuels creativity and the magic of communing with every living thing.
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Jan 3, 2026 • 1h

Melissa Hemsley’s calm chaos

Join cook and food writer Melissa Hemsley, known for her nourishing recipes and insightful writing, as she shares her idyllic vision of a retreat. Picture a landscape of wild animals, gentle communities, and calm chaos, all while seeking a haven from everyday anxieties. Melissa explores finding time for rest amid parenting and discusses her desire for boundaries with neighbors. She envisions communal cooking, cozy interiors, and the freedom of nature, revealing her journey toward embracing safety and presence in her daily life.
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Dec 27, 2025 • 58min

Sam Baker on the challenges of letting go

In this conversation, Sam Baker, a writer and former magazine editor known for her Substack The Shift, opens up about her struggles with rest and retreat. She reveals her anxiety surrounding downtime and how her busy work identity contributes to burnout. Sam shares her dreams of the perfect retreat landscape—mountains by the sea—and the comfort of her cat, Sausage. They also discuss the challenges of decision-making during retreats, the impact of digital distractions, and the need for structured solitude versus group settings. Her reflections are both relatable and revealing.
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Dec 20, 2025 • 1h 15min

Andy J. Pizza’s magical, moving ADHD landscape

Andy J. Pizza, a talented author and illustrator, dives into the unique interplay between ADHD and creativity. He explores the idea of resting in motion, emphasizing that true rest often means immersing oneself in passions. Andy shares his imaginative vision of a fictional retreat in Howl's Moving Castle, highlighting its appeal for neurodivergent minds. They also discuss the magic of Miyazaki films, the nostalgic charm of Fraggle Rock, and the importance of novelty and familiar comforts in creative inspiration. It's a delightful journey through a vibrant, neurodivergent dreamscape!
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Dec 13, 2025 • 1h 1min

Oliver Burkeman’s art of the non-retreat

Oliver Burkeman, a renowned journalist and author of 'Four Thousand Weeks', joins Katherine May to redefine the idea of retreats. He shares his shift from planned breaks to integrating creativity in daily life. Oliver discusses the charm of chilly northern environments and the vital role of simple tasks in nurturing creativity. He also dives into the nuances of using AI in the creative process, stressing the importance of understanding our motivations before outsourcing work. Their conversation stretches the concept of retreat far beyond the typical cabin getaway.
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Dec 6, 2025 • 58min

Laura Pashby's lighthouse at the end of the world

In this conversation, Laura Pashby, a talented photographer and author of Chasing Fog, explores her creative visions and the need for sanctuary. She imagines a dream retreat in a fog-bound Arctic lighthouse, emphasizing the soothing qualities of light and landscape. As she shares tales of her residency in the Arctic, she reflects on the power of self-portraiture and the stories behind her photography. Laura also discusses cozy lighthouse interiors and the importance of crafting comfort, making this a peaceful and inspiring listen.
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Dec 6, 2025 • 1h 16min

Cariad Lloyd’s mossy, mythical retreat

Cariad Lloyd, a British actor, comedian, and author known for Griefcast, shares her whimsical vision of a dream retreat in a mossy, Tolkien-esque woodland filled with mythical creatures. She emphasizes the importance of rest in today's chaotic world and describes her ideal sanctuary complete with a cozy treehouse and a charming pantry. The conversation touches on the joys of reading and writing, the pressures of professional literary obligations, and the comfort of family music memories, all wrapped in a delightful journey through imagination.

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