

Firewalls Don't Stop Dragons Podcast
Carey Parker
A Podcast on Computer Security & Privacy for Non-Techies
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Aug 18, 2025 • 1h 12min
I’m Just a (Privacy) Bill
 Monique Priestley, a Vermont State Representative and consumer protection advocate, shares her experiences navigating the complex world of privacy legislation. She reveals the hurdles faced in passing the Vermont Data Privacy Act and the strategies used against powerful Big Tech lobbyists. Discover the importance of collaboration among legislators, challenges of balancing privacy rights with corporate protection, and lessons learned for future advocacy efforts. Monique sheds light on the need for transparency and citizen involvement in shaping meaningful privacy laws. 

Aug 11, 2025 • 58min
Hacker Summer Camp 2025
 It's early August, which means it's time for BSides Las Vegas and DEF CON, part of the trio of conferences that make up "hacker summer camp" (the other being Black Hat, which I don't attend). It's been a crazy, chaotic week - as usual - but in almost completely good ways. After the regular news, I've got some mini interviews with Jake Braun (DEF CON Franklin), Stacey Higginbotham (Consumer Reports), Cooper Quitin (EFF) and The Gibson (Veilid and hackers.town).
In other news: Tea app users file a class action lawsuit over massive breach; ChatGPT sessions may be searchable by anyone; US government launches initiative to centralize health data for use by tech companies; Australia rolls out age verification for search engines; Grok AI is now in Teslas; China-backed hackers exploit horrific Microsoft bug; Dropbox ends its password manager service.
Article Links
Tea User Files Class Action After Women’s Safety App Exposes Data https://www.404media.co/tea-user-files-class-action-after-womens-safety-app-exposes-data/
ChatGPT users shocked to learn their chats were in Google search results https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/08/chatgpt-users-shocked-to-learn-their-chats-were-in-google-search-results/
Trump administration is launching a new private health tracking system with Big Tech's help https://apnews.com/article/trump-ai-rfk-jr-health-tech-fa73703bd1fd557c787ef0b590e151f1
Australia is quietly rolling out age checks for search engines like Google https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-11/age-verification-search-engines/105516256
Grok is now in Tesla cars, but not in the way you think https://mashable.com/article/grok-tesla
China-backed hackers used Microsoft flaw in attacks https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/07/21/china-hackers-microsoft-sharepoint/
Users left scrambling for a plan B as Dropbox drops Dropbox Passwords https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/30/dropbox_drops_dropbox_passwords/
Tip of the Week: https://firewallsdontstopdragons.com/how-to-backup-cloud-data/ 
Further Info
Top hacker interviews: https://fdsd.me/hackers  
DEF CON Franklin: https://defconfranklin.com/ 
EFF: https://www.eff.org/
Veilid: https://veilid.com/
Consumer Reports: https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/
My book: https://fdsd.me/book 
My newsletter: https://fdsd.me/newsletter 
Support our mission! https://fdsd.me/support 
Give the gift of privacy and security: https://fdsd.me/coupons 
Get your Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons Merch! https://fdsd.me/merch 
Table of Contents
0:00:00: Intro
0:02:24: News preview
0:03:31: Tea User Files Class Action Lawsuit
0:06:24: ChatGPT users shocked to learn their chats were in Google search results
0:11:11: Trump administration is launching a new private health tracking system
0:17:52: Australia is quietly rolling out age checks for search engines
0:22:56: Grok is now in Tesla cars, but not in the way you think
0:25:29: China-backed hackers used Microsoft flaw in attacks
0:29:50: Dropbox drops Dropbox Passwords
0:32:20: Tip of the Week
0:36:27: Hacker Summer Camp Extras!
0:42:53: SNIPPET: Stacey Higginbotham
0:47:03: SNIPPET: Jack Braun
0:50:18: SNIPPET: Cooper Quintin and Gibson
0:55:04: Wrapup 

Aug 4, 2025 • 1h 2min
Tariffs vs IP Law
 Cory Doctorow has garnered a lot of needed attention to the decline of modern online platforms, including Google Search, Facebook and Twitter. Much of this is a result of coining the now-viral term Enshittification. Today we'll talk about how the internet was broken and who's to blame. We'll also discuss the lack of privacy laws and the threats of AI to tech workers and copyrighted works. Finally, we'll discuss Cory's novel proposal for how countries could respond to US tariffs by ripping up intellectual property agreements, changing the power dynamic of the Big Tech industry and hopefully benefiting consumers in the process.
Interview Notes
Cory’s blog (Pluralistic): https://pluralistic.net/ 
Canada shouldn't retaliate with US tariffs: https://pluralistic.net/2025/01/15/beauty-eh/#its-the-only-war-the-yankees-lost-except-for-vietnam-and-also-the-alamo-and-the-bay-of-ham 
Who Broke the Internet? https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/1353-the-naked-emperor 
Enshittification book (coming Oct 2025): https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374619329/enshittification/ 
Regex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expression 
Copyright and AI: https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/07/01/1119486/ai-copyright-meta-anthropic/ 
Further Info
Humble Bundle: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/security-apress-books 
My book: https://fdsd.me/book 
My newsletter: https://fdsd.me/newsletter 
Support the mission: https://fdsd.me/support 
Give the gift of privacy and security: https://fdsd.me/coupons 
Get your Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons Merch! https://fdsd.me/merch 
Table of Contents
0:00:00: Intro
0:02:07: Humble Bundle!
0:03:09: Interview preview
0:06:52: Has coining the term Enshittification helped to raise awareness?
0:11:08: Who broke the internet?
0:20:15: Will AI reduce tech workers' power?
0:27:21: Why can we not get privacy laws?
0:35:21: How should countries respond to US tariffs?
0:39:57: Do DRM protections incentize creators?
0:44:37: What's your take on the Anthropic AI copyright decision?
0:55:03: What's next for you?
0:56:04: Interview wrap-up
0:57:27: Hacker summer camp
0:59:28: Patron podcast preview
1:00:24: Looking ahead 

Jul 28, 2025 • 1h 19min
Physical Phone Security
 Explore how our phones, essential in daily life, can compromise personal data if physically accessed. Discover new iOS and Android features that bolster your phone’s security. Learn about the surge in VPN usage in the UK spurred by privacy concerns following new regulations. Dive into the ethics of data privacy in dating apps and examine ways to minimize your digital footprint amidst rising surveillance. Also, gain insights on AI's role in privacy and the importance of making informed choices for protecting your personal information. 

Jul 21, 2025 • 1h 10min
Passport, Lawyer, Locksmith
 We talk a lot about digital or online security. Today we're going to focus on physical security and the general ethos of "be prepared". There are many situations in life when you will find yourself wishing you had had the foresight to acquire certain things or establish certain professional relationships before you actually needed them. Deviant Ollam is a physical penetration specialist. His job is to find and fix weaknesses in physical things... buildings, locks, safes, etc. And along the way he has learned some important lessons for all of us. Today he will share his wisdom with us.
Interview Notes
Deviant’s website: https://deviating.net/ 
Lawyer,Passport, Locksmith, Gun talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ihrGNGesfI 
Attacking Classified Safes & Vaults: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z_Jv7vuiqg 
Red Team Alliance: https://shop.redteamalliance.com/ 
Red Team Tools: https://www.redteamtools.com/ 
CackalackyCon: https://www.cackalackycon.org/ 
Shut the F**k Up PSA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWEpW6KOZDs 
Home lock - Schlage Primus: https://commercial.schlage.com/en/products/key-systems/primus-security-upgrade.html 
Padlock - Pacific Lock (PACLOCK): https://paclock.com/ 
Further Info
My book: https://fdsd.me/book 
My newsletter: https://fdsd.me/newsletter 
Support the mission: https://fdsd.me/support 
Give the gift of privacy and security: https://fdsd.me/coupons 
Get your Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons Merch! https://fdsd.me/merch 
Table of Contents
0:00:00: Intro
0:04:27: What is a physical entry specialist?
0:08:47: How would you describe the prepper ethos?
0:12:21: What are common mistakes for disaster prep?
0:15:52: What should everyone have a passport?
0:20:32: Why should everyone have an established lawyer?
0:28:55: What other professionals should I have at the ready?
0:34:09: What locks should I use or avoid?
0:40:39: Do any movies and TV shows portray lock picking correctly?
0:43:36: What is 'responsible disclosure' like for physical vulnerabilities?
0:47:44: Do you tell companies when you stumble on physical vulnerabilities?
0:51:41: What documents should we have physical copies of?
0:55:27: If I'm politically active, how can I minimize my digital footprint?
0:59:10: Why should we use secure, private communications?
1:02:34: What's next for you?
1:06:05: Wrap-up
1:08:45: Patron podcast preview 

Jul 14, 2025 • 1h 4min
Freezing Your Mobile Account
 Your cell phone number uniquely identifies you. Many companies rely on this 1-to-1 relationship to authenticate you to their systems. So if someone were to somehow manage to steal your mobile phone number - a hack called SIM swapping - they could use that to impersonate you and compromise any of your accounts that are validated via SMS or phone call. There's a new tool to combat this scam that's better than the old-style account PIN codes. I'll explain how it works.
In the news: many Brother printers have serious cyber vulnerabilities; Belkin in abandoning Wemo smart devices next January; Xfinity's WiFi routers can detect motion in your entire home; Bluesky is rolling out age verification in the UK; California is using drones to catch the use of illegal fireworks; McDonald's AI hiring bot was hacked to expose millions of applicants' data; Mexican drug cartel hacked FBI phone to catch informants; US strikes blow against North Korean fake worker scams; Denmark is looking to ditch Microsoft products.
Article Links
New Vulnerabilities Expose Millions of Brother Printers to Hacking https://www.securityweek.com/new-vulnerabilities-expose-millions-of-brother-printers-to-hacking/ 
Belkin pulls the plug on Wemo smart home products which will stop working in 2026 https://9to5google.com/2025/07/10/belkin-wemo-smart-home-shutdown-list/ 
Using WiFi Motion in the Xfinity app https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/wifi-motion 
Bluesky is rolling out age verification in the UK https://www.theverge.com/news/704468/bluesky-age-verification-uk-online-safety-act 
Huge fines coming for Californians caught by drone with illegal fireworks https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/california-drones-illegal-fireworks-20629637.php 
McDonald’s AI Hiring Bot Exposed Millions of Applicants’ Data https://www.wired.com/story/mcdonalds-ai-hiring-chat-bot-paradoxai/ 
Drug cartel hacked FBI official’s phone to track and kill informants https://arstechnica.com/security/2025/06/mexican-drug-cartel-hacked-fbi-officials-phone-to-track-informant-report-says/ 
Identities of More Than 80 Americans Stolen for North Korean IT Worker Scams https://www.wired.com/story/identities-of-80-plus-americans-stolen-for-north-korean-it-worker-scams/ 
Why Denmark is dumping Microsoft Office and Windows for LibreOffice and Linux https://www.zdnet.com/article/why-denmark-is-dumping-microsoft-office-and-windows-for-libreoffice-and-linux/ 
Tip of the Week: https://firewallsdontstopdragons.com/freezing-your-mobile-account/ 
Further Info
Tom’s Hardware on WiFi Motion: https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/routers/new-xfinity-router-motion-detecting-feature-stokes-privacy-fears-feature-powered-by-wi-fi-signals 
RockYou password list: https://cybernews.com/security/rockyou2024-largest-password-compilation-leak/ 
LibreOffice: https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice/ 
Eurostack: https://eurostack.eu/ 
Running Linux in a VM on Windows: https://itsfoss.com/install-linux-mint-in-virtualbox/ 
Age verification: https://www.privacyguides.org/articles/2025/05/06/age-verification-wants-your-face/ 
My book: https://fdsd.me/book 
My newsletter: https://fdsd.me/newsletter 
Support our mission! https://fdsd.me/support 
Give the gift of privacy and security: https://fdsd.me/coupons 
Get your Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons Merch! https://fdsd.me/merch 
Table of Contents
0:00:00: Intro
0:00:17: DEF CON coming up fast
0:03:34: News preview
0:06:31: New Vulnerabilities Expose Millions of Brother Printers to Hacking
0:11:51: Belkin pulls the plug on Wemo smart home products
0:14:25: Using WiFi Motion in the Xfinity app
0:21:19: Bluesky is rolling out age verification in the UK
0:26:49: Huge fines coming for Californians caught by drone with illegal fireworks
0:29:36: McDonald’s AI Hiring Bot Exposed Millions of Applicants’ Data
0:35:31: Drug cartel hacked FBI official’s phone to track and k... 

Jul 7, 2025 • 1h 10min
Defending Student Privacy
 Privacy risks are bad enough for adults - but it's much worse for our kids, particularly as students. Who provides notice and obtains consent for minors at school? In many cases it's not the parents, let alone the students - it's the school system. Not only are they opting the students into invasive data collection by profit-driven third parties, but they often also bind them to mandatory arbitration clauses, neutering their ability to seek legal redress for the inevitable violations. Today I'll discuss this horrid state of affairs with someone who is on the front lines of this battle for our children's right to privacy: co-founder of the EdTech Law Center, Andy Liddell.
Interview Notes
EdTech Law Center: https://edtech.law/about-us/ 
EdTech current cases: https://edtech.law/cases/ 
Internet Safety Labs: https://internetsafetylabs.org/ 
The Right to Oblivion (book): https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674260528 
ACLU, Digital Dystopia: https://www.aclu.org/publications/digital-dystopia-the-danger-in-buying-what-the-edtech-surveillance-industry-is-selling 
The Markup, College Prep Software Naviance Is Selling Advertising Access to Millions of Students: https://themarkup.org/machine-learning/2022/01/13/college-prep-software-naviance-is-selling-advertising-access-to-millions-of-students 
Proton blog on EdTech and privacy: https://proton.me/blog/ed-tech-trackers 
Further Info
My book: https://fdsd.me/book 
My newsletter: https://fdsd.me/newsletter 
Support the mission: https://fdsd.me/support 
Give the gift of privacy and security: https://fdsd.me/coupons 
Get your Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons Merch! https://fdsd.me/merch 
Table of Contents
0:00:00: Intro
0:02:48: What's your mission at the EdTech Law Center?
0:05:20: What are the unique privacy threats for students?
0:09:46: What privacy laws are there for minors?
0:12:05: How are these laws enforced and litigated?
0:18:21: How does notice and consent work for students?
0:27:05: What rights do the kids have in these situations?
0:29:38: How are these EdTech companies?
0:31:40: Which apps and tools are most problematic and why?
0:37:20: Should minors's data be deleted when they reach adulthood?
0:40:15: Are school systems equipped to understand these contracts?
0:42:35: What about privacy issues with EdTech hardware?
0:45:50: What have we already learned via discovery or reporting?
0:50:01: As a parent, who do I talk to about my child's privacy risks at school?
0:54:16: What are some red flags to look out for?
0:57:10: What responsibilities do school systems have here?
1:00:57: So what can we do? When should we reach out to you?
1:05:02: Interview follow-up
1:06:26: Patron podcast preview
1:07:19: Looking ahead 

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Jun 30, 2025 • 1h 12min
The In-App Switcheroo
 Discover how mobile apps might be compromising your privacy through in-app browsers that track and serve ads. Delve into the alarming privacy pitfalls of the Meta AI app and new developments involving 23andMe's data handling. Learn about Amazon and Roku's ad-sharing collaboration, along with rising government surveillance tactics. Explore crucial security updates for Windows 10 and Android 16, and hear about Denmark's proposals on AI-generated deep fakes. Empower yourself with actionable steps to better protect your data! 

Jun 23, 2025 • 1h 11min
ShmooCon: Moose You Already
 On January 12th, 2025, the ShmooCon hacker conference held it's 20th and final gathering. I was lucky enough to be able to not only attend the final show but also to interview the founders, Heidi and Bruce Potter. We talk about how it all got started, what made this hacker con so special and beloved, and hear some hilarious stories from the past twenty years of hacker shenanigans in Washington D.C.
Interview Notes
ShmooCon: https://www.shmoocon.org/ 
ShmooCon 2025 sessions: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnKSfJ5rXw95HSPVl5L7dqhKpVAx3q_j0 
Turngate: https://www.turngate.io/ 
HOPE conference: https://www.hope.net/ 
BSides: https://bsides.org/ 
Cackalackycon: https://cackalackycon.org/ 
Thotcon: https://www.thotcon.org/ 
SummerCon: https://www.summercon.org/ 
PancakesCon: https://pancakescon.com/ 
Further Info
My book: https://fdsd.me/book 
My newsletter: https://fdsd.me/newsletter 
Support the mission: https://fdsd.me/support 
Give the gift of privacy and security: https://fdsd.me/coupons 
Recommend news stories: send to news [at] firewallsdontstopdragons.com 
Send me your questions! https://fdsd.me/qna 
Get your Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons Merch! https://fdsd.me/merch 
Table of Contents
0:00:00: Intro
0:03:43: How and why did you start ShmooCon?
0:11:05: Why are hacker conferences so different from regular trade shows?
0:17:19: Why limit attendence and how did this give rise to LobbyCon?
0:21:52: What makes a good con? What's your post-con recovery like?
0:27:26: Why did you decide to end the con?
0:29:54: How have other cons influenced ShmooCon?
0:33:16: Why is it important to be so transparent about your con?
0:37:38: What are your favorite ShmooCon stories?
0:44:54: What's it like running a conference as a married couple?
0:49:39: What are you most proud of with ShmooCon?
0:52:13: Was there anything you wish you had done but didn't?
0:56:07: Did you ever consider handing ShmooCon off to someone else?
0:58:13: So what now?
1:00:58: What are some ShmooCon alternatives?
1:06:36: Wrap-up
1:08:07: Attend a hacker con!
1:09:35: Patron bonus preview
1:10:24: Looking ahead 

Jun 16, 2025 • 1h 1min
Rogue AI?
 Artificial Intelligence is taking over. But I don't mean that in a Skynet kinda way. It's simply becoming ubiquitous because companies are insisting on inserting the technology into all their products, even if it's not useful - or not even safe. Unfortunately, the breathless reporting on dangers of AI is also getting way out of hand, including stories of AI systems 'blackmailing' their designers. Today I'll try to bring us back to reality a bit.
Also in the news: Billions of session login cookies up for grabs; Meta and Yandex cheat in order to track you around the web; Qualcomm fixes three zero-day bugs being actively exploited; Apple releases transparency report on push notification data requests; LAPD using Waymo for gathering video evidence; another massive AT&T user data leak includes SSNs; AI system appears to try to blackmail its owner; judge grants preliminary injunction on DOGE data grab; and we'll check in on your 2025 New Year's Resolutions!
Article Links
[theregister.com] Billions of cookies up for grabs as experts warn over session security https://www.theregister.com/2025/05/29/billions_of_cookies_available/
[arstechnica.com] Meta and Yandex are de-anonymizing Android users’ web browsing identifiers https://arstechnica.com/security/2025/06/meta-and-yandex-are-de-anonymizing-android-users-web-browsing-identifiers/
More info: https://www.zeropartydata.es/p/localhost-tracking-explained-it-could  
[techcrunch.com] Phone chipmaker Qualcomm fixes three zero-days exploited by hackers https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/03/phone-chipmaker-qualcomm-fixes-three-zero-days-exploited-by-hackers/
[404media.co] Apple Gave Governments Data on Thousands of Push Notifications https://www.404media.co/apple-gave-governments-data-on-thousands-of-push-notifications/
[404media.co] LAPD Publishes Crime Footage It Got From a Waymo Driverless Car https://www.404media.co/lapd-publishes-crime-footage-it-got-from-a-waymo-driverless-car/
[cyberinsider.com] AT&T Investigating New Leak of 86 Million Customer Records with Decrypted SSNs https://cyberinsider.com/att-investigating-new-leak-of-86-million-customer-records-with-decrypted-ssns/
[bbc.com] AI system resorts to blackmail if told it will be removed https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go
[eff.org] Privacy Victory! Judge Grants Preliminary Injunction in OPM/DOGE Lawsuit https://www.eff.org/press/releases/privacy-victory-judge-grants-preliminary-injunction-opmdoge-lawsuit
Tip of the Week: https://firewallsdontstopdragons.com/2025-resolutions-check-in/ 
Further Info
2025 New Year’s Resolutions: https://firewallsdontstopdragons.com/new-years-resolutions-2025/ 
Privacy Guides: https://www.privacyguides.org/articles/ 
EFF’s Rayhunter project: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/03/meet-rayhunter-new-open-source-tool-eff-detect-cellular-spying 
My book: https://fdsd.me/book 
My newsletter: https://fdsd.me/newsletter 
Support our mission! https://fdsd.me/support 
Give the gift of privacy and security: https://fdsd.me/coupons 
Send me your questions! https://fdsd.me/qna 
Get your Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons Merch! https://fdsd.me/merch 
Table of Contents
0:00:00: Intro
0:00:50: A note on protest privacy
0:04:32: News preview
0:06:43: Billions of cookies up for grabs as experts warn over session security
0:18:27: Meta and Yandex are de-anonymizing Android users’ web browsing identifiers
0:25:59: Phone chipmaker Qualcomm fixes three zero-days exploited by hackers
0:27:51: Apple Gave Governments Data on Thousands of Push Notifications
0:33:25: LAPD Publishes Crime Footage It Got From a Waymo Driverless Car
0:37:39: AT&T Investigating New Leak of 86 Million Customer Records with Decrypted SSNs
0:41:51: AI system resorts to blackmail if told it will be removed
0:51:40: Privacy Victory! Judge Grants Preliminary Injunction in OPM/DOGE Lawsuit
0:56:04: Tip of the Week
0:58:13: Wrapup 


