

Capital Decanted
John Bowman and Aaron Filbeck
Say goodbye to tired market takes and superficial sound bites. Because here, instead of skimming the surface, we dive into the heart of capital allocation — striking the perfect balance and exposing the subtleties that reveal the topic’s true essence.
Prepare to have your perspectives challenged as we open up the issues that resonate with the hearts and minds of those shaping asset management.
Prepare to have your perspectives challenged as we open up the issues that resonate with the hearts and minds of those shaping asset management.
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Dec 31, 2024 • 1h 50min
S2 | Episode 4: The Urgent Rebuild - Distributing Private Capital to Wealth Clients with Shane Clifford and Doug Krupa
How does a legacy private capital partnership who has thrived solely in the institutional draw down LP ecosystem, assemble the apparatus to begin distributing those strategies to the individual investor? When client acquisition and conversations, investor sophistication, product design, culture, operational support etc. are all fundamentally different...where do they start in this overhaul? What challenges and pitfalls have they experienced along the way? What battle scars and advice can they share with others that are considering the same or in the early stages themselves. Join us as we draw a blueprint in a very applied and practical manner.
Introduction: (0:48)
Halftime: (54:00)
Guests: (59:39)
Guests:
Shane Clifford, Managing Director–Partner and Head of Global Wealth, Carlyle
Doug Krupa, Managing Director, Global Client Solutions, KKR
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Nov 26, 2024 • 1h 36min
S2 | Episode 3: Will Artificial Intelligence replace the Investment Professional with Martin Escobari and Dave Morehead
Martin Escobari, Co-President of General Atlantic, and Dave Morehead, Chief Investment Officer at Baylor University, delve into the intriguing world of AI in finance. They discuss the fearsome narratives surrounding AI, explore its transformative potential, and the balance required between human intuition and machine efficiency in investment strategies. With AI's rising role in the industry, they highlight the importance of cognitive diversity and ethical implications, painting a picture of a future where humans and machines can coexist harmoniously in portfolio management.

Oct 29, 2024 • 1h 41min
S2 | Episode 2: Multi-Strategy Investment Firms—the Future Convergence of Public and Private Offerings with Jenny Johnson and Jean Hynes
Today’s asset management business has quickly transformed into a race to build out a stable of thoroughbreds--investment strategies across a spectrum of conventional public equity and debt as well as offerings across the continuum of private capital--equity, credit, secondaries, real estate, infrastructure etc. What makes recent history particularly unique are the crossover deals from traditional managers with alternative managers. For several decades, traditional long only mutual fund shops and institutional firms stayed in their lane and idiosyncratic, complex private capital partnerships lived in a different world---there was a peaceful co-existence and mutual exclusivity. Those distinctions and parallel worlds have evaporated. We explore why with two of the most revered leaders in the industry and compare and contrast their different approaches to meeting this challenge.
Introduction (0:47)
Halftime (47:03)
Guests (53:15)
Guests:
Jean Hynes, CEO, Wellington Management
Jenny Johnson, CEO, Franklin Templeton
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Sep 30, 2024 • 1h 48min
S2 | Episode 1: Long-termism: The Greatest Asset in Asset Management with Sarah Williamson and Geoff Rubin
In this engaging discussion, Sarah Williamson, CEO of FCLT Global, and Geoff Rubin, Senior Managing Director at CPP Investments, dive deep into the art of long-term investing. They tackle the emotional complexities that tempt investors away from long-term strategies and emphasize the transformative power of sustainable value creation. Listeners will find illuminating insights on how to combat short-term pressures and the importance of solid governance in embracing long-termism. With a focus on collaboration and innovative practices, this conversation showcases the future of asset management.

Sep 23, 2024 • 2min
Season 2 Teaser of Capital Decanted
Welcome back to season 2 of Capital Decanted… well, almost! John Bowman, CFA teases the episode and the “greatest asset in investing” – can you guess what it is? Find out on September 30!

Aug 20, 2024 • 1h 45min
Top Episode Rewind: Fan-Favorite #1
Private Credit has risen from obscurity within the private equity financing world to a greater than $2T asset class in just over a decade. In this episode, we examine the conditions (M&A, debankification, regulation, staying private longer) that accelerated post the GFC that created a torrent of issuance and demand for private credit across direct lending, asset backed credit, structured credit, and innovative special situations. And more importantly, we debate whether we’ve come a little too far, too fast, and if some rationalization and refining is needed before this exciting space continues its upward trajectory.
Guests:
Katie Koch, CEO, TCW
Kipp DeVeer, Partner and Head of Credit, Ares Management
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Aug 13, 2024 • 1h 38min
Top Episode Rewind: Fan-Favorite #2
Private Markets Valuations…do these quarterly marks properly represent fair value or are they make believe…contrived from the fictional world of GP machinations? Do these interim valuations, as one commentator put it, “not matter;” or as another proclaimed provocatively, are they simply a case of “volatility laundering.” Is the gap or “lag” with public market equivalents relevant…are we anchoring to the right bogey…or arbitrarily comparing objective value to an emotionally manic patient, to paraphrase Warren Buffett? In today’s episode, our inaugural episode of Capital Decanted, we are going to lean in to this divisive and complex topic with some help from Scott and Andrea.
Guests:
Scott Kupor, Managing Partner, A16z
Andrea Auerbach, Global Head of Private Capital, Cambridge Associates
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Aug 6, 2024 • 1h 40min
Top Episode Rewind: Fan-Favorite #3
After a four decade relative period of global stability, the world order has fractured and grown more unpredictable. The new multi-polar reality poses a major problem for leaders and investors as our traditional guardrails, narratives, and structures seem less useful. How should an investor integrate geopolitical trends into their investment thesis and what pitfalls and common mistakes should we watch out for?
Guests:
Anastasia Titarchuk, CIO, New York State Common Retirement Fund
Marko Papic, Partner, Clocktower Group

Jul 30, 2024 • 1h 42min
Top Episode Rewind: Fan-Favorite #4
Since the arrival of Modern Portfolio Theory (MPT) in the early 1950’s by the legendary Harry Markowitz, the industry has been sturdily anchored to this philosophy and all of it’s artifacts when constructing portfolios. In recent years, however, an enterprising handful of large institutional asset owners have begun challenging the common wisdom of a strategic asset allocation approach given it tends to breed silo behavior, unhealthy competition for resources and attention, unrecognized duplication or disjointed risk exposure across the portfolio, and difficulty in managing the capital pool holistically around a view of the future. This is the story of how CAIA convened some of the most reputable and largest asset owners in the world to amplify the benefits of TPA and perhaps, the beginning of a new era.
Guests:
Ben Samild, Chief Investment Officer, Future Fund
Jayne Bok, CFA, CAIA, Head of Investments, Asia, Willis Towers Watson
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Jul 23, 2024 • 1h 39min
Top Episode Rewind: Fan-Favorite #5
Permanent Capital or GP Stakes structures aim to take further advantage of long-dated patient capital in private markets. Furthermore, they allow the LP to participate in additional cash flow streams with the GP that are elusive in a traditional fund structure. In other words, it allows LPs to get exposure to a variety of alternative asset managers as minority owners in the GPs themselves. But does this provide a purer incentive alignment of investors and GPs or simply split allegiance and attention between multiple masters? In this episode, with the help of the largest GP Stakes participant, Blue Owl, and a large LP in their fund, USAA, we examine the evolution of the approach, its idiosyncratic and multi-faceted return stream, and try to honestly assess some of the myths that haunt the space.
Guests:
Sean Ward, Senior Managing Director, GP Strategic Capital Platform, Blue Owl
Shawn Ury, CAIA, Executive Director and Head of Alts, USAA
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