

The SaaS CFO
Ben Murray
Ben Murray, The SaaS CFO, talks all things SaaS.
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Feb 27, 2024 • 24min
Professional Learning on Demand Driven by AI
In this episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast, we sit down with Husayn Kassai, the CEO and founder of Quench. Husayn shares his journey from starting an eBay business at a young age to co-founding and leading Onfido, a successful startup, before taking on the challenge of launching Quench AI. He discusses the unique approach Quench takes towards corporate learning, utilizing AI to personalize the learning journey for individuals. Husayn delves into the challenges faced in the learning and development space, the vision for the future of learning, and the cultural shift needed in early-stage companies. Join us as we explore the innovative approach Quench is taking to revolutionize corporate learning and development. Show Notes: 00:00 Upskilling, training team, content creation, cost considerations.
04:11 Applying AI to filter educational video transcripts.
09:18 Flat fee for platform use, employee access.
12:42 Team building product; personalized learning, AI models.
15:39 AI enables personalized learning for business leaders.
17:12 Udemy and similar platforms are competitors in content.
21:05 Challenges in showing data driven ROI persist.
23:25 AI platform, easy sign-up, trial, feedback-driven development.
Links:
Husayn Kassai’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/husaynkassai/ QuenchAI’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/quenchai/
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Feb 22, 2024 • 21min
$60M Raised to Humanize the Procurement Workflow for Better Outcomes
Welcome to The SaaS CFO Podcast! In this episode, our host Ben sits down with Sudhir Bhojwani, co-founder and CEO of Oro Labs, a procurement software company. Sudhir talks about his background in software engineering, previous entrepreneurial endeavors, and the founding of Oro Labs. He shares insights into the challenges and nuances of the procurement space and explains the company's mission to "humanize the procurement experience." Sudhir also delves into Oro Labs' pricing structure, go-to-market strategies, fundraising experiences, and the future direction of the company. Join us as we explore the world of procurement software and entrepreneurial growth with Sudhir Bhojwani.
Show Notes: 00:00 Ariba is top procurement software. Challenges in business-user friction in procurement. Complex process due to non-commoditized goods.
05:12 Startup company focusing on life sciences, pharmaceuticals, financial services, manufacturing, and software.
07:35 Consulting work involves IP sharing and goes through multiple steps, guided by a tool for maximum outcome and speed.
10:58 Focus on large enterprise and mid-market, using account-based marketing and partner strategy.
15:16 Series A to B transition: Metrics or major company signings guide valuation strategy. Early stage metrics are complex.
16:36 Sticking with philosophy, fortunate in procurement software market.
19:42 Belief in humanized procurement experience, using GPT for problem solving, prioritizing user experience.
Links: SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/oro-labs-secures-34-million-in-series-b
Sudhir Bhojwani’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sudhir-bhojwani-43b342/
Orolabs’ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/procurewithoro/
Orolabs’ Website: https://www.orolabs.ai/
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Feb 20, 2024 • 17min
$65M Investment to Improve Identity and Access Management for Apps
Welcome to The SaaS CFO Podcast. In this episode, host Ben is joined by Brian Pontarelli, founder and CEO at Fusionauth, a customer identity and access management tool. Brian delves into his coding background, the products and services offered by Fusionauth, and the company's journey from its founding to recent growth equity investment. He shares insights on their go-to-market strategy, metrics guiding the business, and their focus on product development and boosting their market presence. Don't miss Brian's valuable lessons learned and what's in store for Fusionauth's future. Tune in for an insightful conversation on SaaS growth and evolution.
Show Notes: 00:00 Login downtime closes cash register. Prioritize customer login ease.
04:45 Friend and I tried to recreate the web, but switched to a profanity filter which became successful.
08:02 Focused on content marketing, SEO, and developer-oriented ads using platforms like Google and LinkedIn to reach developers. Ads are creative and provide immediate value with ebooks.
09:40 Received interest from various firms, pursued growth equity investment.
13:25 Focusing on real metrics, not just revenue growth.
16:28 Fusionauth IO website - comprehensive and transparent resource for information without sales pressure.
Links:
SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/fusionauth-secures-65-million-in-funding
Brian Pontarelli’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/voidmain/
Fusion Auth’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/fusionauth/
Fusion Auth’s Website: https://fusionauth.io/
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Feb 15, 2024 • 37min
$3M Raised to Boost Physical and Online Sales at Convenience Stores
Hello listeners, and welcome back to The SaaS CFO Podcast. In today's episode, I'm excited to be sitting down with a very special guest—Jason Vego, the dynamic CEO behind Bevz, a company that's revolutionizing how convenience stores sell their products in the digital marketplace.
We'll be diving into Jason's incredible story of steering Bevz through a complete business model pivot during the height of the pandemic, emerging on the other side with a robust SaaS platform and an impressive 600% annual growth rate. This kind of success doesn't come easy, and Jason will be pulling back the curtain on their path to attracting seed investors and scaling their operations with some smart strategies and a dedicated sales team.
If you're interested in learning from the challenges and triumphs of an actual SaaS startup, then you're in for a treat. We'll also touch on how Bevz has dealt with the fundamentals of fundraising, growth metrics, and even managing a distributed team.
So grab your headphones, get comfortable, and let's delve into these topics and more with Jason Vego. Here we go!
Show Notes: 00:00 Mistaken solution for inventory management software. Shift to B2B SaaS. Emerging need for vertical software.
05:03 Realizing gaps in dog grooming and finance, sought expertise.
08:37 Industry move too slow, pandemic sped up change, flipped order of operations for online sales and ROI.
10:24 Discussion on transitioning bodegas to more restaurant-like. Focus is on non-perishable items.
16:09 Ops title, CEO pivot in 2021, led inventory management pivot, became CEO, Victor focused on industry partnerships and advertising deals.
16:52 Focused on launching SaaS, successful pivot, learning experience.
21:38 In summer 2022, the company secured key integrations and raised a $605,000 round from early investors.
23:57 Company had ten reps, lost two, now at eight with plans to expand and implement new strategies.
26:47 Recommendations for raising capital: pre-work, dedication, build relationships, meet investors in person.
29:56 Improving platform efficiency for increased GMV and store effectiveness.
34:11 Emphasizing the importance of hiring the right people with unique skill sets and strong personality, and managing internal conflict effectively for success.
36:12 Visit bevz.com or LinkedIn for more about Jason's work at Bevz.
Links:
SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/bevz-secures-3-1-million-in-funding
Jason Vego’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jvego/
Bevz’ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bevz/
Bevz’ Website: https://www.bevz.com/
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Feb 13, 2024 • 20min
500K Raised to Solve the Last Mile of Shipping
In this episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast, we're joined by Lauris Rutkis, the co-founder and CEO of Swotzy, a last-mile shipping software company. Lauris shares his journey from studying logistics engineering in the Netherlands to working at companies like Merskline and DPD before founding Swotzy in 2022. He discusses the company's growth, the services they offer, their ideal customer profile, and their go-to-market strategy. Lauris also delves into their fundraising journey, the metrics they focus on, and the exciting plans for scaling operations and expanding into multiple European countries. Tune in to hear about the innovative solutions Swotzy is bringing to the shipping industry.
Show Notes:
00:00 Last mile shipping software streamlines package delivery, saving time and resources for companies.
03:51 Customers can ship in 5 minutes, benefit from consolidation and support for small and medium-sized businesses.
08:01 Focusing on postal shipments. Ideal customers: growing companies sending hundreds of shipments per month. Also targeting large enterprises. Adding value through multi-carrier setup for new markets.
12:03 Successful use of free media and cold outreach attracting companies and investors.
15:10 Quickly validate product with customers, secure second investment.
17:11 Focus on month-on-month increases in shipments, revenue, and net cash burn to maintain steady progress. Tracking shipments is important for revenue growth.
Links:
SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/swotzy-raises-500-000-in-pre-seed-round
Lauris Rutkis’ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauris-rutkis/
Swotzy’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/swotzy/
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Feb 8, 2024 • 28min
$9.5M Raised to Protect Banks and Fintech from Fraud
Welcome to The SaaS CFO Podcast, where we dive into the world of SaaS companies and their financial strategies. In this episode, our host Ben sits down with Ravi Sandepudi, co-founder and CEO of Effectiv, a fraud detection software company. Ravi shares his fascinating journey, from his time at Google and the acquisition of his previous startup by PayPal, to the founding of Effectiv.
Ravi provides valuable insights into the world of fraud detection within mid-sized financial institutions, including credit unions and community banks. He delves into the challenges these institutions face and how Effectiv's platform is designed to address their specific needs. Ravi also discusses the company's go-to-market strategies, funding journey, and future plans for growth and innovation.
Tune in as Ravi shares his experiences, lessons learned, and his vision for the future of Effectiv. If you're interested in the intersection of finance, technology, and entrepreneurship, you won't want to miss this episode.
Show Notes:
00:00 Started career at Google, worked in fraud and risk. Joined startup Simility, acquired by PayPal. Worked in PayPal's risk team, built new products.
05:39 System integrates with banking, assesses risks and adds friction when necessary.
08:09 25-person remote team operates real-time fraud platform for 24/7 transactions.
09:51 We serve mid-sized fintechs and work closely with credit unions and community banks. Initially challenging, now collaborative partnerships.
13:54 Combining variable and fixed SaaS pricing for predictability and customer budget approval.
17:16 Company waited for customer commitment before raising money to avoid potential pitfalls.
22:42 Emphasize discipline, pivot to existing customer upselling, and learn from quick actions.
23:59 Maintaining controlled burn, aiming for 5 million, considering profitability vs growth.
27:25 Company presence on LinkedIn and Twitter for fraud platform. Contact Ravi at Effectiv AI.
Links:
SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/effectiv-raises-4-million-in-seed-round
Ravi Sandepudi’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandepudi/
Effectiv Ai’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/effectivai/
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Feb 6, 2024 • 13min
2M Raised to Use AI to Automate Manual Workflows
In this episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast, our host Ben sits down with Nayrhit Bhattacharya, co-founder of Gushwork. Nayrhit shares his journey in the tech industry, from working with AI at American Express to launching a company focused on reimagining the world of outsourcing post-GPT and AI. Gushwork offers a platform that combines human and AI capabilities to handle recurring business workflows, particularly in the sales domain. Nayrhit discusses the company's evolution, current team structure, customer acquisition strategies, fundraising journey, and valuable lessons for founders at the concept stage. He also highlights key metrics and the future direction of Gushwork. Join us for an insightful conversation on the innovative intersection of human intelligence and technology in streamlining business processes. Show Notes:
00:00 A platform for combining human and AI/SaaS tools for business workflows, focusing on sales tasks.
05:30 Started targeting Upwork/Fiverr users, offering SaaS human tool, now moving into SEO, successful on LinkedIn/Twitter.
07:14 A concept evolved through iteration; launched GPT bot to help business owners with actionable workflows.
11:00 Key metrics are LTV to CAC, delegated tasks, and financial metrics. Links: SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/gushwork-ai-raises-2-1-million-in-pre-seed-round
Gushwork’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gushwork/
Nayrhit Bhattacharya’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayrhit/
Gushwork’s Website: https://www.gushwork.ai/
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Feb 3, 2024 • 26min
First-time SaaS Founder Launches Vertical Software in Pest Space
Adam Weber, CEO and founder at Pestiq, discusses his journey from owning a pest control business to founding a SaaS company. Topics include challenges of building a performance analytics dashboard for pest control, raising funding, and focusing on customer feedback and onboarding. They aim for 10-15M ARR, seek supportive venture capital, and emphasize customer satisfaction and accurate data. Listeners gain insights into startup growth and raising capital in the SaaS industry.

Feb 1, 2024 • 26min
$17M Series A to Secure End-to-end Payments for Businesses
In this episode of The SaaS CFO Podcast, our host Ben sits down with special guest Shai Gabay, the co-founder and CEO of TrustMi. Shai shares the fascinating story of his background, from his early days disassembling electronic devices to his time in the Israeli intelligence corp and his transition into the world of cybersecurity and fintech. He goes on to discuss the innovative products and services that TrustMi offers, focusing on solving the problem of B2B payment fraud. Shai also delves into the company's journey, from its founding to securing $21 million in funding. With insights into the challenges of protecting B2B payment flows in the age of AI, this episode offers a captivating look into the intersection of cybersecurity and fintech.
Show Notes: 00:00 Reported $32 billion B2B payment fraud loss in 2020, prompting further investigation.
03:41 Spoke to 150 CFOs, 70% SMBs, learned wire transfers are scary, manual controls used, 9 out of 10 suffered loss.
08:56 SaaS software streamlines B2B payment security with quick deployment.
10:36 Focused on value, leveraging historical data to show immediate results in payment flow and fault detection.
16:09 Launching a company requires market validation and understanding customer needs.
18:26 Founders took time to validate idea before seeking funding, focused on product market fit and customer sales before scaling and marketing.
21:20 Investors seek solid business evidence, paying customers.
24:25 Organizations educated on detecting sophisticated cyber threats. Links: SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/trustmi-raises-17-million-in-series-a
Shai Gabay’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaigabay/
Trustmi’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/trustmi-ai/
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Jan 30, 2024 • 36min
$40M Series B to Level Up Your Procurement Process
Hello listeners, welcome to The SaaS CFO Podcast. I'm your host, Ben, and today, Dave Campbell, co-founder and CEO of Tropic, is here with us. Dave's eclectic background shaped his understanding of intricate procurement problems, leading to the inception of Tropic, a cutting-edge procurement platform turning heads in the SaaS world.
In this episode, we dive into how Tropic's keen focus on customer health scores and engagement drives retention and growth. We'll uncover the strategies that have attracted major feature releases, exclusive partnerships, and a noteworthy $65 million in funding—propelling them toward a $100 million ARR goal.
Dave's going to share a treasure trove of insights, from the importance of storytelling in fundraising to the metrics that matter most for long-term success. With exciting advancements and a unique approach to simplifying software spend management, Tropic is on a mission to reshape the procurement landscape. Ready for some financial wisdom and operational tips from a true SaaS trailblazer? Stay tuned for a session that promises to enrich your SaaS knowledge!
Show Notes: 00:00 Read an American novel, had an entrepreneurial revelation, worked in digital marketing with the rise of blogs.
03:26 Summary: Founder starts at Tropic, worked at Microsoft, realizes big companies are not for him, gains clarity.
09:03 Make finance approvals easier with automated platform for spend tracking and utilization.
12:35 Initially capped at 1000, now expanded to 10,000 with new features and target market shift. Planning to expand into other industry verticals.
15:06 Improved adoption = better spend management. Consumer-grade UX helps with procurement challenges. Tropic aids under-resourced teams.
17:06 Not a fit for real estate or physical goods, but good for software. Eyeing healthcare and higher ed markets for procurement.
22:20 Praising insightful and diligent company, aligning with fund for quick series B, facing rigorous assessment.
26:00 Meet top funds, control access to data room, stage meetings, keep it tight.
29:09 Customer health scores crucial for business growth and retention. Monitoring through dashboards.
31:42 Realizing customer needs and product-market fit in business endeavors.
33:39 Insight partners helped with pricing, packaging, and capacity planning. Links: SaaS Fundraising Stories: https://www.thesaasnews.com/news/tropic-raises-40-million-in-series-b
David Campbell’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidtropic/
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