

In Good Faith
BYUradio
Discover how God is working in the world and in our lives. Strengthen community by connecting with people of different faith traditions. Celebrate commonality and honor difference as believers share the wisdom and sacred stories, faith journeys, and life experiences that connect them to the Divine.
Host Steven Kapp Perry talks with believers from all walks of faith—Catholic and Episcopalian, Buddhist and Baptist, Jewish and Hindu, Presbyterian and Seventh Day Adventist, Muslim and Latter-day Saint— sharing their personal experience with the sacred and the divine. Sundays on BYUradio—and be sure to subscribe to the podcast!
Host Steven Kapp Perry talks with believers from all walks of faith—Catholic and Episcopalian, Buddhist and Baptist, Jewish and Hindu, Presbyterian and Seventh Day Adventist, Muslim and Latter-day Saint— sharing their personal experience with the sacred and the divine. Sundays on BYUradio—and be sure to subscribe to the podcast!
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Oct 26, 2025 • 54min
Ep. 322: Book Club When Things Fall Apart
 Rachel Whipple joins the In Good Faith team for a discussion of Pema Chödrön's When Things Fall Apart--a classic in Buddhist literature for the last 20 years. 
They explore themes such as dealing with fear, facing discomfort, embracing impermanence, and practicing non-attachment. 
Pema Chödrön is a Buddhist nun, meditation teacher, and author. In 1981 she became the first American in the Vajrayana tradition to become a fully ordained nun. She has published over 20 books. 
Rachel Whipple is an attorney and Provo City Councilor, and a former Research Fellow at the International Center for Law and Religion Studies. She is also a member of the Provo Awakening Valley Sangha Board of Directors. 

Oct 22, 2025 • 25min
Ep. 321: Faith, Advocacy, & Art | Helen Boursier
 Helen Boursier discusses her experiences as a volunteer chaplain at an immigrant family detention center in Texas. She reflects on the profound faith and resilience of the asylum-seeking families she met, highlighting their spiritual strength and the love they embody, despite their hardships.
The Rev. Dr. Helen Boursier, Ph.D.,  was known as “Pastora Helena” for two years inside an immigrant family detention center (2015 and 2016) where she used art as a pastoral care ministry with more than 5000 women and children seeking asylum. She continues to volunteer with, and advocate for, refugees seeking asylum. Dr. Boursier teaches religious and theological studies at the College of St. Scholastica in Duluth, MN. 
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Oct 19, 2025 • 29min
Ep. 320: Building Bridges Within Our Own Communities | John Song
 Reverend John Song shares his background growing up in an immigrant Korean church, his career transition from band teacher to pastor, and his involvement with the One America Movement.
Rev. John Song is the Senior Pastor at City of Hope Presbyterian Church in Columbia, MD. He is on the Board of Directors of the One America Movement, which partners with faith communities across religious, political, and racial divides to confront toxic polarization in our society. 
He received his Master of Divinity at Reformed Theological Seminary in Washington D.C,, and was ordained in the Presbyterian Church in America. 
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Oct 15, 2025 • 27min
Ep. 319: Jewish History, Storytelling, and Genealogy | Brad Pomerance
 Brad Pomerance, Executive Vice President and On-Air Host at Jewish Life Television (JLTV), shares his  passion for Jewish genealogy, the mission of JLTV, and the challenges and importance of representing diverse Jewish stories. 
JLTV is North America’s largest and most robust 24/7 English language, Jewish-themed television network. As On-Air Host, Brad Pomerance is helming JLTV’s newest television series, the celebrity-driven, genealogy-themed television series Generations. Previously, Brad was honored with three Los Angeles-area Emmy nominations for his work at Local Edition and Channel 35.
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Oct 12, 2025 • 29min
Ep. 318: A Journey from War to Harmony | Imam Amir Duric
 Imam Amir Durić, chaplain at Syracuse University, shares his experiences growing up during the Bosnian War, his path towards becoming an Imam, and his work in fostering interfaith dialogue.
Amir Durić is the Assistant Dean for Religious and Spiritual Life at Syracuse, overseeing the Muslim Chaplaincy at Syracuse University/SUNY ESF and educational programs supporting Muslim students, faculty, and staff. Durić previously served as the Imam, Khatib, and Mu'allim for  three years in Sarajevo, and seven years in the Delaware Valley-Philadelphia region. 
In September 2024, his work earned national recognition as Interfaith Innovation Fellow by Interfaith America, selected from over 200 applicants.
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Oct 8, 2025 • 25min
Ep. 317: Lessons from the Garden | Carla Fortmann
 Carla Fortmann shares how the Lexington Interfaith Garden began, how it contributes to the community, and what lessons we learn from gardening.
Carla Fortmann is the leader of the Lexington Interfaith Garden, a community project beside the historic Lexington Battle Green that has supplied fresh produce to the local food pantry for 15 seasons. Carla is also a registered nurse, the manager of the museum shop at the Buckman Tavern, and the former owner of The Crafty Yankee, a gift shop in Lexington, MA.
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Oct 5, 2025 • 28min
Ep. 316: Service, Faith, & Social Change | Rev Frederick Davie
 Reverend Frederick Davie shares how mentors pointed him in the direction of education and service, and how faith and social change have always been connected in his life and community.
Rev. Frederick Davie is Senior Executive Vice President for Public Theology and Civic Engagement at Union Theological Seminary. He is also the Co-Chair of the Interfaith Center of New York and the Co-Chair of the Advisory Board for the Center of Earth Ethics, and a member of the Bureau of the NGO Committee for Freedom of Religion or Belief.
Mr. Davie serves on the Board of Trustees of Greensboro College, his alma mater. He has served for decades as a member of the Advisory Board of the Interfaith Assembly for Homelessness and Housing. Mr. Davie is a founder and past Chair of Faith 2020/Faith Forward.
A Presbyterian minister in the Presbytery of New York City, Mr. Davie has served the national Presbyterian Church, the NYC presbytery, and local congregations in various volunteer capacities.
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Sep 28, 2025 • 41min
Ep. 315: Hagar, Sarah, and Abraham | Genesis Panel
 Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg, Daisy Khan, and Chris Hays join Steve to discuss how the story of Hagar, Sarah, and Abraham infuse the Jewish, Muslim, and Christian traditions and thought. 
Named "rabbi to watch" by Newsweek, Danya Ruttenberg is the author of 8 books about the intersection of Jewish theology, parenting, feminism, and other topics. Her primary writing home is now at LifeIsASacredText.com. She was previously a guest on IGF in Episode 122: “Making Amends in an Unapologetic World.”
Daisy Khan is the author of 30 Rights of Muslim Women: A Trusted Guide (2024). She is also the founder of Women’s Islamic Initiative in Spirituality and Equality (WISE), a global network of Muslim women committed to peace-building, gender equality, and human dignity. Daisy was on the show in Episode 138 when she spoke about her memoir Born with Wings (2018) and her experience with the hajj. She spoke about her book “30 Rights…” on Episode 263.
Chris Hays teaches at Fuller Seminary and directs the master’s program in Ancient Near Eastern Studies in the School of Mission and Theology. He served as the US State Department Educational and Cultural Affairs Annual Professor at the Albright Institute of Archaeological Research in Jerusalem for 2022–23. He is ordained in the Presbyterian Church (USA). 

Sep 24, 2025 • 28min
Ep. 314: Hospitality & Civil Discourse | Cherie Harder
 Cherie Harder of the Trinity Forum shares the need for hospitality and civil discourse in times of political division, as well as how to ground oneself in faith in order to navigate political challenges while maintaining belief. Plus, Ms. Harder shares her recent experience on the Camino de Santiago. 
Cherie Harder is President of the Trinity Forum, a DC-based think tank, whose mission is to work “for the renewal of society by cultivating, curating and disseminating the best in Christian thinking for the common good, and by helping leaders to think, work, and live wisely and well.” 
Previously, she has worked in politics including as Special Assistant to the President and Director of Policy and Projects for First Lady Laura Bush and Senior Counselor to the Chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH). 
She is also a Senior Fellow at Cardus, an Editorial Board member of Comment magazine, a current board member of the Convergence Center for Policy Resolution and Faith and Law, and an advisory board member of the National Museum of American Religion. 

Sep 21, 2025 • 29min
Ep. 313: Doubt & Resilience | Pastor Amy Butler
 Pastor Amy Butler joins Steve to discuss her struggle with faith, coping with loss, and experiences as a female pastor in a male-dominated tradition--and how community and ritual brought her healing and peace. 
Pastor Amy Butler is the Designated Pastor at the Community Church of Honolulu in Hawai’i. Previously, she served for five years as Senior Minister and first woman at the helm of The Riverside Church in the City of New York. She’s also served as pastor in churches in Washington, D.C., and New Orleans.  She recently founded Invested Faith, which helps individuals and religious institutions use their assets to fund the work of faith-rooted social entrepreneurs building businesses that are changing unjust systems.
Pastor Amy grew up in Hawaii, the daughter of a leader in the Hawaiian community. She is the author of a memoir, Beautiful and Terrible Things, and more recently, Holy Disruption. 


