Psychologists Off the Clock

It's time to have a no-BS discussion about something that all of us have struggled with at some point in our long-term relationships: maintaining a sexual connection. If this speaks to you and you feel like you’re stuck with poor advice on how to navigate the situation, meet our guest, Emily Nagoski, a sex educator and author of Come Together: The Science (and Art!) of Creating Lasting Sexual Connections. With scientific evidence, wit, and compassion, Emily joins Jill on POTC to debunk the myths we've been fed about sex, show us what real great sex can look like, offer a fresh outlook on what might be blocking us from enjoying sex, and explain how to communicate our sexual desires more effectively. Her insights are sure to revolutionize the way you think about sexual connections and give you a newfound understanding of yourself, your body, and your relationship.Listen and Learn:  The myths versus the science of sustaining satisfying long-term sexual connections What distinguishes spontaneous and responsive desire from pleasure? Discussing sexual intimacy and desire more effectively using Emily's accelerator and brake metaphor How care, curiosity, and play can help you move closer to lust The significance of the "third thing" in a relationship Having a clear understanding of you and your partner's "emotional floorplan" to find your way back to sexual desire The importance of following the sexual rules that work for you and your relationship Resources:  Visit Emily's website and subscribe to her newsletter to have your questions answered! Emily's books: Come Together: The Science (and Art!) of Creating Lasting Sexual Connections and Come as You Are: Revised and Updated: The Surprising New Science That Will Transform Your Sex Life Follow Emily on Instagram, TikTok and Facebook SNL’s ‘Pound Puppy’ (referenced in the episode) About Emily NagoskiEMILY NAGOSKI is the award-winning author of the New York Times bestselling book Come as You Are and The Come As You Are Workbook, and coauthor, with her sister, Amelia, of New York Times bestseller Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle. She is here today to talk about her new book, Come Together: The Science (and Art!) of Creating Lasting Sexual Connections.Emily earned an M.S. in counseling and a Ph.D. in health behavior, both from Indiana University, with clinical and research training at the Kinsey Institute. Now she combines sex education and stress education to teach women to live with confidence and joy inside their bodies. She lives in Massachusetts with two dogs, a cat, and a cartoonist.Related Episodes 176. Fair Play with Eve Rodsky 206. Fair Play Part 2 with Eve Rodsky 248. Let’s Talk About Sex & Intimacy with Zoë Kors 276. Assertive Communication Skills with Randy Paterson 309. The Language of Emotions with Karla McLaren 315. Hot & Bothered: Menopause with Jancee Dunn 318. Your Path to Personal Change with Michelle Drapkin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Research shows that somewhere between 2 and 6% of the population struggles with BFRBs at a clinical level, which can include behaviors like hair-pulling, skin-picking, and nail-biting (among others). What differentiates BFRBs from other self-grooming behaviors, though, is the unintentional harm they cause to the body and the lack of successful efforts to stop them. To gain a better understanding of these difficult-to-control behaviors that can have detrimental effects on mental and emotional well-being, Michael interviewed clinical psychologists Marla Deibler and Renae Reinardy. If you're looking to recover from body-focused repetitive behavior, Marla and Renae, who coauthored The BFRB Recovery Workbook, are here to provide up-to-date behavioral science and evidence-based tools specifically tailored to meet your individual needs and help you transform your life for the better!Listen and Learn:  What are body-focused repetitive behaviors (BFRBs)?  The stigma and dismissive attitude surrounding BFRBs How prevalent are BFRBs?   WTF: What is the function of BFRBs? The importance of viewing change as a process rather than a final outcome  Techniques for experiencing shame, emotional avoidance, and response prevention How to deal with inevitable setbacks Resources: Order your copy of The BFRB Recovery Workbook: https://a.co/d/5pFMEGMMarla’s Links: Website: https://thecenterforemotionalhealth.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecenterforemotionalhealth Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ceh_philadelphia/ "X": https://twitter.com/DoctorDeibler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marla-deibler-psyd-abpp-a220851a/ BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/doctordeibler.bsky.social Renae’s Links: Lakeside Center for Behavioral Change: https://lakesidecenter.org  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/r.reinspi Courage Critters: https://couragecritters.com Related Episodes:  167. Get Curious and Change Unhealthy Habits with Judson Brewer 188. Unwinding Anxiety with Judson Brewer 4. Habits: The Science of Behavior Change (Part 1) 5. From Awareness to Action: Behavior Change (Part 2) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It's disheartening to see how burnout has become increasingly widespread. We understand how overwhelming it can be, and we're here to support you in finding ways to overcome it. For this very special episode, all four POTC cohosts come together to celebrate Debbie's new book, ACT for Burnout: Recharge, Reconnect, and Transform Burnout with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. This incredible resource can teach you so much about burnout, its dimensions, and how to manage it effectively. You will also learn how this book can be a valuable tool in preventing burnout from happening in the first place. If you’re experiencing signs of burnout, this is an episode you won't want to miss! Listen and Learn:  What inspired Debbie to pen a burnout book? Understanding the three dimensions of burnout  What are the risks and impacts of burnout? How does capitalism influence individual burnout? Why may attempting to fix burnout worsen the situation?  The cohosts guess each other's burnout subtypes  When work is causing burnout, how do you know when it's time to quit? Why is acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT) a good approach to addressing the problem of burnout? Resources:  Debbie’s website Explore Debbie's books: ACT for Burnout: Recharge, Reconnect, and Transform Burnout with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy and ACT Daily Journal: Get Unstuck and Live Fully with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy Connect with Debbie on Instagram  Use the code “BURNOUT20” for 20% off of ACT for Burnout on the Jessica Kingsley Publishers US site! Link here to have the code pre-applied at checkout: https://us.jkp.com/discount/BURNOUT20?redirect=%2Fproducts%2Fact-for-burnout About Debbie Sorensen Debbie (she/her) is a clinical psychologist in private practice in Denver, Colorado with a bachelor’s degree in Psychology and Anthropology from the University of Colorado, Boulder, and a Ph.D. in Psychology from Harvard University. She is the author of the upcoming book ACT for Burnout: Recharge, Reconnect, and Transform Burnout with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and co-author of ACT Daily Journal: Get Unstuck and Live Fully with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. And of course, she’s a long-time cohost of the Psychologists Off the Clock podcast! She loves living in Colorado, her home state, with her husband, two daughters, and dog. When she’s not busy working or podcasting, she enjoys reading fiction, cooking, traveling, and getting outdoors in the beautiful Rocky Mountains! You can learn more about Debbie, read her blog, and find out about upcoming presentations and training events at her webpage, drdebbiesorensen.com.Related Episodes 77. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy with Jill Stoddard 116. Building a Meaningful, Values-based Life with Jenna LeJeune 146. Parental Burnout with Lisa Coyne  207. Burnout w/ Jill & Debbie 211. Subtract with Leidi Klotz 246. Burnout and Boundaries with Tammie Change 282. Toxic Positivity with Whitney Goodman 293. Quit with Annie Duke 305. The Power of Saying No with Vanessa Patrick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Puberty can be a very confusing and transformative time, full of physical and emotional changes that can be both exciting and challenging to navigate. As your children go through this phase, they may need your support and guidance more than ever. Joining us for a conversation all about all things puberty are Cara Natterson and Vanessa Kroll Bennett, the coauthors of national bestseller, This Is So Awkward: Modern Puberty Explained. If you are the parent of children who are approaching or already going through this time of rapid growth and development, Cara and Vanessa's science-based explanations, compassionate and realistic advice on talking to tweens about difficult topics from mood swings to pornography, along with in-depth knowledge on understanding teen culture are sure to validate and empower you in your parenting journey. Listen and Learn:  In Cara and Vanessa's expert opinion, what are the biggest obstacles that parents face during puberty? How are the early emotional and physical changes of puberty different for boys and girls?  Why is modern-day puberty different than before?  The importance of self-forgiveness when you mess up as a parent during the stormy stages of puberty  How to approach the topic of pornography with your kids How much are parents affected by the social messaging around gender, and how can you bring that into your parenting? Why teens in puberty feel emotions differently than adults  Are empathy and showing a way forward your best moves when your kids are at the mercy of their hormones? Can hunger sometimes be a major culprit for pubescent mood swings? Resources: Order of Magnitude website This Is So Awkward: Modern Puberty Explained The Puberty Podcast Follow Cara and Vanessa on Tik Tok and YouTube @spillingthepubertea About Cara Natterson and Vanessa Kroll BennettCara Natterson, MD is a pediatrician and New York Times bestselling author; Vanessa Kroll Bennett is a puberty educator and writer. Together, they host The Puberty Podcast; run Order of Magnitude, the leading brand dedicated to flipping puberty positive; and are co-authors of the bestselling This Is So Awkward: Modern Puberty Explained (Rodale Books, Oct 2023). Cara and Vanessa can be found on Instagram and TikTok @spillingthepubertea. Perhaps their biggest cred, however, is that between them, they parent six teens.Related Episodes: 332. Middle School Superpowers with Phyllis Fagell 319. Autonomy-Supportive Parenting with Emily Edlynn 317. Growing Up in Public with Devorah Heitner 304. The Emotional Lives of Teenagers with Lisa Damour 272. Middle School Matters with Phyllis Fagell 240. Talking to Kids and Teens with Big Feelings with Adele LaFrance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Is wellness something you would like to bring into your life this year? Then our first POTC episode of 2024, featuring Sharon Salzberg, a pioneer of meditation and world-renowned teacher, is a gold mine! Going deep into Sharon's many years of experience practicing and teaching mindfulness, we unpack principles from her work and latest book, Real Happiness: A 28-Day Program to Realize the Power of Meditation. One of the most empowering lessons from Sharon is that mindfulness is not just a practice but a trainable quality. She affirms many paths to building the quality of mindfulness, which goes way beyond the traditional formal practices. It's so refreshing how she describes the practice and benefits of mindfulness in a realistic way and doesn't promise a magical cure for eternal happiness. Having Sharon's voice on the podcast is an honor; her message and outlook on life will undoubtedly bring you heaps of value. Listen and Learn:  What does it mean to live your life in a constricted way? How to get out of a constrictive place of living and live more expansively  Can we experience more awe in our day-to-day lives? How can mindfulness be helpful if you feel trapped or are struggling? The realistic challenges of achieving a state of mindfulness Sharon’s ‘breath, not breath’ technique  Tips for busy people who want to practice mindfulness more or are having trouble making it a regular habit How to sprinkle less formal mindfulness practices into your life The ways mindfulness can support the Buddhist concept of right action Transforming anger into courage Resources:  Visit Sharon’s website Sharon's books Real Happiness: A 28-Day Program to Realize the Power of Meditation, Finding Your Way: Meditations, Thoughts, and Wisdom for Living an Authentic Life and Real Life, The Journey from Isolation to Openness and Freedom. Sharon’s Just Sit article for O Magazine  For more insight on mindfulness, listen in to Sharon’s podcast, The Metta Hour Follow Sharon on LinkedIn, YouTube, X and Instagram  Check out Sharon’s posts on Check out Sharon’s posts on Medium About Sharon SalzbergSharon Salzberg is a meditation pioneer, world-renowned teacher, and New York Times bestselling author. She is among the first to bring mindfulness and lovingkindness meditation to mainstream American culture nearly 50 years ago, inspiring generations of meditation teachers and wellness influencers. Sharon is co-founder of the Insight Meditation Society in Barre, MA, and the author of thirteen books, including the New York Times bestseller Real Happiness, now in its second edition, and her seminal work, Lovingkindness. In 2023, Sharon is releasing two new books. The first, Real Life, is now available from Flatiron Books in hardcover, ebook, and audiobook formats. The second, Finding Your Way, is a small gift book now available from Workman Publishing in hardcover and ebook formats. Sharon’s podcast, The Metta Hour, has amassed six million downloads and features interviews with thought leaders from the mindfulness movement and beyond. www.sharonsalzberg.comRelated Episodes:  80. Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics with Jeff Warren  75. Mindful Self-Compassion with Christopher Germer  122. Taking in the Good with Rick Hanson 257. The Gift of Being Ordinary with Ron Siegel 174. How to Work and Parent Mindfully with Lori Mihalich-Levin 171. Compassionate Mind Training with Dennis Tirch and Laura Silberstein-Tirch 155. Mindfulness and Recovery with Rebecca Williams 139. Neurodharma with Rick Hanson (Part 1) 140. Neurodharma with Rick Hanson (Part 2) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As yet another incredible year comes to a close, the POTC cohosts, Debbie, Jill, Michael, and Emily, gather for the final episode of 2023 in a cozy fireside chat. Kicking off the episode, they reflect on some of the obstacles they faced this past year as well as share some of the valuable lessons they’ve learned along the way. Looking optimistically into the year to come, they get pumped about their aspirations for 2024 and wrap up the chat with a spirited speed-round. Intrigued to know their holiday season pet peeves, what dirty little secrets they’ve been hiding, and the game-changing buys they’ve made that cost less than a Benjamin?! Make sure to listen all the way to the end of the episode! Happy holidays, off-the-clockers! See you again in the new year!Resources:  The Love of My Life, by Rosie Walsh  I'm Glad My Mom Died, by Jennette McCurdy The Anomaly by Le Tellier About Emily Edlynn Emily (she/her) is a licensed clinical psychologist specializing in pediatric health psychology who works in private practice with children, teens, and adults. She has a BA in English from Smith College, a PhD in clinical psychology from Loyola University Chicago, and completed postgraduate training at Stanford and Children’s Hospital Orange County. Emily spent almost ten years working in children’s hospitals before pivoting to private practice, which allowed her to start a writing career. Emily has written her blog, The Art and Science of Mom, since 2017 and a parenting advice column for Parents.com since 2019. Emily’s writing has also appeared in the Washington Post, Scary Mommy, Good Housekeeping, Motherly, and more. She recently added author to her bio with her book, Autonomy-Supportive Parenting: Reduce Parental Burnout and Raise Competent Confident Children and has a Substack newsletter.About Debbie Sorenson Debbie (she/her) is a clinical psychologist in private practice in Denver, Colorado with a bachelor’s degree in Psychology and Anthropology from the University of Colorado, Boulder, and a Ph.D. in Psychology from Harvard University. She is author of the upcoming book ACT for Burnout: Recharge, Reconnect, and Transform Burnout with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and co-author of ACT Daily Journal: Get Unstuck and Live Fully with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. drdebbiesorensen.com.About Jill Stoddard Jill Stoddard is passionate about sharing science-backed ideas from psychology to help people thrive. She is a psychologist, writer, TEDx speaker, award-winning teacher, peer-reviewed ACT trainer, and co-host of the popular Psychologists Off the Clock podcast. Dr. Stoddard is the author of three books: The Big Book of ACT Metaphors: A Practitioner’s Guide to Experiential Exercises and Metaphors in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy; Be Mighty: A Woman’s Guide to Liberation from Anxiety, Worry, and Stress Using Mindfulness and Acceptance; and Imposter No More: Overcome Self-doubt and Imposterism to Cultivate a Successful Career.About Michael Herold Michael (he/him) is a confidence trainer and social skills coach, based in Vienna, Austria. He’s helping his clients overcome their social anxiety through Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and fun exposure exercises. (Though the jury is still out on whether they’re mostly fun for him). He is also a certified therapeutic game master, utilizing the Dungeons&Dragons tabletop roleplaying game to train communication, assertiveness, and teamwork with young adults. Or actually, anyone ready to roll some dice and battle goblins in a supportive group where players want to level up (pun!) their social skills.Related Episodes 2. Hygge – Happiness and the Danish Art of Cozy Connection 218. Off the Clock with Us 238. Values During Times of Transition (with Us) 252. Getting the Help You Need, with Us 262. Hope and Values in Dark Times with Us 300. Celebrating 300 Episodes with Us 323. Introducing Our New Cohosts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Since we were introduced to Polyvagal Theory by Stephen Porges in the early nineties, the concept has revolutionized our understanding of the connection between safety and well-being and transformed trauma interventions and therapeutic interactions, inspiring researchers and clinicians to approach things in new ways. Here to enlighten us through real-world examples and themes from their book, Our Polyvagal World: How Safety and Trauma Change Us, are father and son, Stephen and Seth Porges. Tune in to gain a whole new outlook on what our body does based on how safe we feel and learn practical ways in which we can help one another feel safe.Listen and Learn:  What is polyvagal theory? What effects does it have on our physical and mental well-being to live in a world where signals of threat are all around us?   The science of safety  What role does cognition play in polyvagal theory? Clearing up misconceptions about our freeze response to life-threatening or traumatic events Breath, the vagus nerve, and feeling safe—and whether there's even an ideal way to breathe to stimulate or activate those feelings of safety Are hormonal changes impacting the vagus nerve, and is that why we experience mood changes during puberty and menopause? What makes us seek out the thrill of being scared? Resources: For more insight on polyvagal theory, visit Stephen and Seph’s websites  Order your copy of Our Polyvagal World: How Safety and Trauma Change Us Follow Stephen on Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn  Follow Seth on Facebook and X About Stephen and Seth PorgesStephen W. Porges, Ph.D. is a Distinguished University Scientist at Indiana University where he is the founding director of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium. He is Professor of Psychiatry at the University of North Carolina, and Professor Emeritus at both the University of Illinois at Chicago and the University of Maryland. He lives in Atlantic Beach, Florida. Seth Porges is a journalist and filmmaker. He directed the critically acclaimed documentary Class Action Park (HBO Max). He lives in Atlantic Beach, Florida, and Brooklyn, New York. Related episodes 131. COVID-19, Anxiety, Cultivating Safety, and Polyvagal Theory with Stephen Porges 139 & 140 Neurodharma with Rick Hanson Parts 1 & 2 177. Mind-Body Practices for Stress and Overwhelm with Rebekkah LaDyne 210. Strategies for Becoming Safely Embodied with Deirdre Fay 269. Connection Through Vulnerability with Rikke Kjelgaard Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The fact is that, next to sleep, we spend the most hours of a lifetime in the workplace. It's true, even though it is a bitter pill to swallow. That's why Michelle P. King argues the idea that we can only find fulfillment and purpose outside of work. Having a job takes up so much of our day-to-day lives, so we must strive to find meaning in it and understand the unspoken rules that lie beneath the surface. Discussing Michelle’s book How Work Works: The Subtle Science of Getting Ahead Without Losing Yourself, we shed some light on the path to achieving our career ambitions without compromising our identities.Listen and Learn What was Michelle's motivation for developing a framework for how to feel seen, heard, and valued at work? The evolution of the work environment as a result of economic changes  Why is the need to fit in inherently problematic, and how is belonging different? The steps to building an informal network to future-proof your career success How establishing meaningful connections and investing in self-awareness can help you get ahead at work without losing your authentic self  Resources:  Visit Michelle’s website Get your copy of How Work Works: The Subtle Science of Getting Ahead Without Losing Yourself Check out Michelle’s podcast, The Fix Follow Michelle on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn and X About Michelle P. KingDr. Michelle P. King+ is an award-winning academic and globally recognized expert on inequality and organizational culture. Her second book, How Work Works: The Subtle Science of Getting Ahead Without Losing Yourself, publishes internationally on October 10th, 2023 (HarperCollins). Related Episodes: 299. Leadership and the Changing Workplace with Chris Shipley 281. Belonging Uncertainty and Bridging Divides with Geoffrey Cohen 270. How Am I Doing? with Cory Yeager 217. Redefining Rich with Shannon Hayes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Middle school can be such a stressful experience for kids, their parents, and educators alike. It's a time of change, pressure, and uncharted territory that can be extremely overwhelming. In this conversation, Emily Edlynn speaks with the author of Middle School Superpowers: Raising Resilient Tweens in Turbulent Times, Phyllis Fagell, who has crafted a science-backed and compassionate resource for parents and educators to support middle schoolers through the most challenging situations. You will learn why this particular age group has the capacity for remarkable growth and resilience and why adults should not be afraid of this stage of life—instead, concentrate on the strengths and skills that can be cultivated during it. We invite you to listen to this episode for actionable strategies and skills to help your tweens thrive and become more resilient in a world that can be chaotic and anxiety-inducing. From managing rejection, friendships, and self-regulating emotions to academic performance and recovering from setbacks, Phyllis’ advice is invaluable. Listen and Learn:  What Phyllis enjoys most about working with and writing about the middle-school age group Why Phyllis wrote a book to help parents better understand and support middle schoolers Tips to help provide a foundation of security for kids in these chaotic and scary times Common parenting concerns during middle school and how using different superpowers can help with such challenges  How being a middle school counselor, writing about middle school, and being a parent at the same time has been a gift and a liability for Phyllis Resources: Phyllis Fagell’s website Middle School Superpowers: Raising Resilient Tweens in Turbulent Times About Phyllis Fagell Phyllis Fagell is a practicing school counselor, a psychotherapist who works with children and teens in private practice, and an author and journalist. She is the author of "MIDDLE SCHOOL MATTERS, The 10 Key Skills Kids Need to Thrive in Middle School and Beyond – and How Parents Can Help," and her most recent book that we’re discussing today: "MIDDLE SCHOOL SUPERPOWERS, Raising Resilient Tweens in Turbulent Times." Phyllis is a frequent contributor to publications such as The Washington Post and CNN, and her ideas have been shared in outlets including The New York Times, NPR, The Chicago Tribune, and The Atlantic. Phyllis has three children and lives in Bethesda, MD.Related Episodes: 272. Middle School Matters with Phyllis Fagell 324. Toxic Achievement Culture with Jennifer Wallace 319. Autonomy-Supportive Parenting with the AMAZING Emily Edlynn 202. The Addiction Inoculation with Jess Lahey 213. Back To School! How To Talk With Kids To Build Motivation, Stress Tolerance and A Happy Home with Dr. William Stixrud and Ned Johnson 293. Quit with Annie Duke Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Inequality is a pervasive problem in society that leads to individuals and entire communities feeling undervalued and neglected and can have adverse impacts. We excitedly welcome acclaimed Harvard sociologist Michèle Lamont for this discussion, who joins Debbie to impart wisdom and discoveries from her powerful book, Seeing Others: How Recognition Works and How It Can Heal a Divided World. As they explore the complicated topic of recognition in society, Michele draws from almost four decades of research and interviews with young adults, cultural figures, and advocates for change to highlight the differences in treatment given to certain groups, the impacts of denied recognition, and the role of narratives in shaping societal and cultural norms and values. We also get Michele’s informed perspective on the social changes needed for us to cultivate a more compassionate and inclusive society. If this topic speaks to you, please join us for this very meaningful discussion and be part of the change we want to see in the world!Listen and Learn:  Michele explains how certain groups within society are valued and recognized, while others are left feeling devalued and overlooked The denial of recognition and dignity to marginalized groups and how this negatively impacts their well-being and sense of value within society Why psychology may not be able to capture the concept of worth comprehensively How internalized cultural narratives perpetuate and become embedded over time, and what is being done at a cultural level to change them What is normal universalism?  Is there hope for a more inclusive future that values and includes all people? If Michèle could change one narrative related to the concept of worthiness, what would it be? Resources:  Find out more about Michèle by visiting her website Michele’s book, Seeing Others: How Recognition Works--And How It Can Heal a Divided World The Ford Foundation referenced in this episode  Follow Michele on Twitter About Michele Lamont Dr. Michèle Lamont is a Professor of Sociology and of African and African American Studies and the Robert I. Goldman Professor of European Studies at Harvard University. An influential cultural sociologist who studies boundaries and inequality, she has tackled topics such as dignity, respect, stigma, racism, class, and racial boundaries, and how we evaluate social worth across societies. Her most recent book is Seeing Others: How Recognition Works and How It Can Heal a Divided World (forthcoming with Simon and Schuster, September 2023). Her other books include: Money, Morals, and Manners (1992), The Dignity of Working Men (2000), How Professors Think (2009), as well as the coauthored Getting Respect (2016). After studying with Pierre Bourdieu and others in Paris in the early eighties, Lamont emerged as a pioneer in cultural and comparative sociology, helping to define these fields as we know them today. Her many awards include the C. Wright Mills Award from the Society for the Study of Social Problems for The Dignity of Working Men, the 2014 Guttenberg Award, the 2017 Erasmus Prize, and honorary doctorates from six countries. She served as President of the American Sociological Association in 2016, was a Carnegie Fellow in 2021-2022, and was inducted into the American Academy of Arts & Sciences in 2023. She co-chaired the advisory board to the 2022 United Nations Human Development Report, “Uncertain Times, Unsettled Lives: Shaping our Future in a World in Transformation.”Related episodes:  325. Unseen, Unheard, Undervalued with Janina Scarlet  324. Toxic Achievement Culture with Jennifer Wallace   256. Social Justice Parenting with Traci Baxley  230. The Laziness Lie with Devon Price  281. Belonging Uncertainty and Bridging Divides with Geoffrey Cohen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.