

Psychologists Off the Clock
Debbie Sorensen, Jill Stoddard, Yael Schonbrun, Michael Herold & Emily Edlynn
We are five experts in psychology, bringing you science-backed ideas that can help you flourish in your work, relationships, and health.
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Sep 6, 2018 • 1h 14min
57. Evolution and Behavioral Science with Steven Hayes and David Sloan Wilson
Join Dr. Steven Hayes, a leading behavioral scientist known for Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and Dr. David Sloan Wilson, an evolutionary scientist, as they bridge the gap between evolutionary and behavioral sciences. They delve into how an evolutionary perspective enriches our understanding of human behavior and enhances therapy. The discussion tackles technology's impact on social behavior, the evolution of communication, and the importance of observation and awe in coping with life’s challenges. Together, they illuminate our collective evolution.

Aug 28, 2018 • 58min
56. ACT and Process-Based CBT with Steven Hayes
In this inspirational episode, Diana interviews Dr. Steven Hayes, co-developer of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), about the future of evidence-based therapy. Dr. Hayes describes the core processes involved in effective change and presents a model that breaks free from diagnoses and protocols. Dr. Hayes shares how he uses principles of process as a parent, leader and ally to underrepresented populations in psychology. Take a listen as Dr. Hayes, on his 70th birthday, paints the big picture of a process-based model of psychology that will revolutionize our field as we know it!
Listen and Learn:
How To Become More Psychologically FlexibleAbout Acceptance And Commitment Therapy And The Core Processes Involved In Effective CBTHow ACT Co-Founder Dr. Steven Hayes Uses ACT Principles In His Own LifeHeartfelt And Cutting Edge Interview With Dr. Steven Hayes On His 70th Birthday!
About Steven Hayes, Ph.D.
Steven C. Hayes
Steven C. Hayes is a Nevada Foundation Professor in the Behavior Analysis program at the Department of Psychology at the University of Nevada. An author of 44 books and nearly 600 scientific articles, he has shown in his research how language and thought leads to human suffering and has guided the development of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, a powerful therapy method that is useful in a wide variety of areas. His popular book Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life was featured in Time Magazine among several other major media outlets and for a time was the best-selling self-help book in the United States. Dr. Hayes has been president of several scientific societies and has received several national awards, such as the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Association for Behavioral and Cognitive Therapies. Google Scholar data ranks him as among the topmost cited scholars in all areas of study, living and dead.
Resources
Process-Based CBT: The Science and Core Clinical Competencies of Cognitive Behavioral Therapies, by Steven C. Hayes (Eds) and Stefan G. Hofmann (Eds)Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, Second Edition: The Process and Practice of Mindful Change, Second Edition, by Steven C. Hayes, Kirk D. Strosahl, and Kelly G. Wilson.Learn more about ACT through the Association for Contextual Behavioral SciencesAttend a Training with Dr. Steven Hayes HEREFind an ACT therapist in your area HERE
102. A Liberated Mind with Dr. Steven Hayes57. Evolution and Behavioral Science with Dr. Steven Hayes and Dr. David Sloan Wilson
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Aug 21, 2018 • 59min
55. Aware with Dan Siegel
Are You Curious, What Is The Mind?
Want To Learn How You Can Grow A Healthier, Integrated Brain?
Interested In How Quantum Physics Is A Gateway To Understanding Thoughts?
Join Us For A Mind Opening Interview With Dr. Dan Siegel!
In this episode, Diana interviews Dr. Dan Siegel about his new book, Aware: The Science and Practice of Presence. Dr. Siegel describes interpersonal neurobiology and how he has learned from mathematics, anthropology, biology, physics, sociology, and neuroscience to understand the mind. He discusses a powerful practice called The Wheel of Awareness, which cultivates focus, interoception and inter-connection. Dr. Siegel dives into quantum physics to describe how thoughts arise as a flow of energy in the mind.
About Dan Siegel
Dr. Siegel is a clinical professor of psychiatry at the UCLA School of Medicine and the founding co-director of the Mindful Awareness Research Center at UCLA. He is also the Executive Director of the Mindsight Institute which focuses on the development of mindsight, which teaches insight, empathy, and integration in individuals, families and communities.
Dr. Siegel has published extensively for both the professional and lay audiences. His New York Times bestsellers are: Mind: A Journey to the Heart of Being Human, Brainstorm: The Power and Purpose of the Teenage Brain, and two books with Tina Payne Bryson, Ph.D.: The Whole-Brain Child and No-Drama Discipline. His other books include: The Developing Mind (2nd ed.), Mindsight, The Mindful Brain, The Mindful Therapist, The Yes Brain (also with Tina Payne Bryson, Ph.D.), and his upcoming book Aware (2018). Dr. Siegel also serves as the Founding Editor for the Norton Professional Series on Interpersonal Neurobiology which contains over sixty textbooks.
Resources
The Wheel of Awareness Practice Image and Guided Meditation
Aware: The Science and Practice of Presenceby Dan Siegel
The Whole Brain Child by Dan Siegel
Brainstorm: The Power and Purpose of the Teenage Brain by Dan Siegel
Oak Meditation App
Headspace Meditation App
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Aug 14, 2018 • 1h 2min
54. Anxiety in Children and Adolescents with Veronica Raggi
Interested In Learning About Child And Adolescent Anxiety?
Want Tips For How To Talk To Children About Fear And Encourage Bravery?
Looking For Creative Ideas About How To Face Your Fears Using Exposure Therapy Techniques?
Let's Learn From A Childhood Anxiety Expert!
While most children experience some fear and anxiety, some develop more extreme forms of anxiety that can impair their daily functioning. In this episode, Debbie interviews Dr. Veronica Raggi, expert on childhood and adolescent anxiety disorders and coauthor of the book Exposure Therapy for Treating Anxiety in Children and Adolescents: A Comprehensive Guide.Dr. Raggi provides some information about anxiety in young people, and discusses the use of exposure therapy techniques in helping children and adolescents face their fears and overcome anxiety.
Dr. Veronica L. Raggi is a licensed clinical psychologist who has specialized in treating children and adolescents for the past ten years in private practice, school, hospital, and outpatient medical settings, including New York University (NYU) Child Study Center, Children’s National Medical Center, and the University of Maryland, College Park. She presents, consults, and trains mental health professionals in utilizing cognitive behavioral therapy, and has published in numerous scholarly journals on evidence-based treatment approaches for mental health disorders in youth. She has developed CBT Tools for Kids, an iPhone application to help children and adolescents monitor their thoughts and feelings, and utilize CBT skills. She has recently published a book called Exposure Therapy for Treating Anxiety in Children and Adolescents, along with co-authors Jessica Samson, Julia Felton, Heather Loffredo and Lisa Berghorst.
Resources:
Exposure Therapy for Treating Anxiety in Children and Adolescents
The Yes Brain by Daniel Siegel
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Aug 8, 2018 • 49min
53. Yoga For Trauma With Deirdre Fay
Are You Interested In Learning How Yoga Philosophy Can Be Integrated Into Trauma Treatment?
Want To Learn How Yoga And Meditation Can Cultivate Feelings Of Safeness In The Body?
Curious How Attachment Theory Maps On To Yoga And Embodiment?
Join Us For An Interview With Deirdre Fay, Author Of Attachment-Based Yoga And Meditation For Trauma!
In this episode, Deirdre Fay, LICSW discusses how she integrates yoga, meditation and attachment theory into healing trauma. Ms. Fay discusses the intersection between yoga philosophy and attachment theory. She explores why embodiment is important in the healing of trauma and how she cultivates a "nourishing opposite" when shame accompanies a traumatic response. Ms. Fay leads us through two experiential exercises, Modified Half Archer and Anjali Mudra, to demonstrate these concepts.
About Diedre Fay:
Deirdre Fay, LICSW has decades of experience exploring the intersection of trauma, attachment, yoga and meditation. Having meditated since the 70’s and lived in a yoga ashram for six years in the 80’s and 90s Deirdre brings a unique perspective to being in the body. In the 90’s Deirdre was asked to teach yoga and meditation to those on the dissociative unit at McLean Hospital. Having amassed skill sets in trauma treatment (as a supervisor under the guidance of Bessel van der Kolk at the Trauma Center), attachment theory (13 years of training with Daniel Brown), body therapy (as a trainer in Sensorimotor Psychotherapy) Deirdre now teaches an integrative approach which Chris Germer calls “a radically positive approach to healing trauma.” Deirdre founded the Becoming Safely Embodied skills groups and is the author of Attachment-Based Yoga & Meditation for Trauma Recovery (W.W. Norton, 2017), Becoming Safely Embodied Skills Manual (2007), and co-author of Attachment Disturbances for Adults (W.W. Norton, 2016) as well as the co-author of chapters in Neurobiological Treatments of Traumatic Dissociation.
A former supervisor at The Trauma Center, Sensorimotor Psychotherapy Institute trainer from 2000–2008, certified in Internal Family Therapy, qualified trainer in Mindful Self-Compassion, Self-Awakening Yoga and LifeForce Yoga practitioner Deirdre is a respected international teacher and mentor for working safely with the body.
Resources:
Deirdre Fay's Website and Resources
The Becoming Safely Embodied Online Program
Attachment-Based Yoga and Meditation for Trauma Recovery by Deirdre Fay
Becoming Safely Embodied Skills Manual by Deirdre Fay
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Jul 24, 2018 • 58min
52. Palliative Care and Healing with Michael Kearney
Are You Interested In How Whole Person Care Can Help Us With Pain And Dying?
Do You Work With Others In Pain And Find Yourself Burned Out?
Want To Learn How Diana And Yael Practice Self Care As Therapists?
Join Us For And Interview With Palliative Care Physician Dr. Michael Kearney!
In this episode, Diana interviews Dr. Michael Kearney, a palliative care physician who takes an interpersonal, integrative approach to healing. Dr. Kearney shares with us how he has had to learn to "breathe underwater" and allow pain to move through him, and discusses his new book: The Nest in the Stream.
Michael Kearney MD trained at St Christopher’s Hospice in London with Dame Cicely Saunders, pioneer of the modern hospice movement. He later returned to his Ireland as medical director at Our Lady’s Hospice in Dublin. In the early 2000’s he moved to North America, and now lives and works in Santa Barbara, California. Throughout his career, Michael has been interested in whole person care and approaches that combine medical treatment with the innate healing potential of body, soul, and spirit. He draws on depth psychology, mythology, Buddhist philosophy, indigenous wisdom and Earth-based spirituality.
Michael has published three books, Mortally Wounded: Stories of Soul Pain, Death, and Healing, and, A Place of Healing: Working with Nature and Soul at the End of Life, as well as many articles and chapters. His most recent book, The Nest in the Stream: Lessons from Nature on Being with Pain, offers a way of being with pain and suffering that is infused with mindfulness, nature connection, openness, and compassion.
Michael is married to psychologist, meditation teacher, and author Radhule Weininger, Ph.D. They teach and write together and share six adult children between them.
Resources:
Dr. Micheal Kearney's website
Image of the Nest in the Stream
The Nest in the Stream: Lessons from Nature on Being with Pain
Listen to meditations with Dr. Michael Kearney
Palliative Care Consultants of Santa Barbara
National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization
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Jul 17, 2018 • 1h 3min
51. The Psychology of Political Division with Yael and Debbie
Are You Worried About The Current Political Polarization?
Do you have trouble understanding political viewpoints different from your own?
Pretty sure you are right and the "other side" is wrong?
Want to learn about the psychology of politics, morality, and political righteousness?
In this timely episode, Yael and Debbie discuss the work of social psychology researcher, Dr. Jonathan Haidt, who studies the psychology of political and moral opinions. We'll explore why humans are a uniquely moralistic species, and how we can end up with such different beliefs about moral (as in, political and religious) issues. We'll present some research-based suggestions for how we all might be able to work together to start to bridge the political divide.
Resources:
The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided By Politics and Religionby Jonathan Haidt
The Political Brain: The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation by Drew Westen
Take the Implicit Association Test (IAT) at Project Implicit
Check out Dr. Jonathan Haidt's TED talks
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Jun 26, 2018 • 54min
49. Empowering Women with Robyn Walser
Are You Interested In Doing Your Part To Empower Women? Want To Explore Gender Dynamics And Issues Unique To Women In Today's World? Curious About Women's Empowerment In Mental Health And Trauma Treatment? Wondering How We Can Make More Room For Women's Voices, And Value Women's Experience And Qualities As They Are?
In this episode, Debbie interviews Dr. Robyn Walser about women's empowerment. They explore the meaning of female empowerment, and talk about why this is particularly important at this time in history. Dr. Walser provides some ideas for mental health clinicians working with women, and discusses unique issues unique to working with women who have trauma histories. Dr. Walser and Debbie discuss some of the challenges women face in speaking out and being heard, even within the field of psychology.
About Robyn Walser
Robyn Walser, Ph.D. is the Director of TLConsultation Services, works at the VA’s National Center for PTSD, and is Associate Clinical Professor at University of California, Berkeley. As a licensed psychologist, she maintains an international training, consulting and therapy practice. Dr. Walser is an expert in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and has co-authored three books on ACT including Learning ACT, The Mindful Couple, and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy for the Treatment of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder. She has expertise in traumatic stress and substance abuse, and has authored a number of articles, chapters, and books on these topics. Her next book, The Heart of ACT: Developing a Flexible, Process-Based, and Client-Centered Practice using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy is forthcoming next winter.
Click here for more information about the ACT BootCamp for Women: Power Through Psychological Flexibility for mental health providers, offered August 16-19, 2018 in San Diego, California.
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Jun 19, 2018 • 52min
48. Practical Wisdom with Barry Schwartz
Interested In Developing Your Inner Wisdom? Curious About How To Identify And Overcome The Challenges To Honing Your Unique Practical Wisdom? Want To Learn More About The Ways That Wisdom Is Associated With Happiness? Join Us For An Interview With Dr. Barry Schwartz!
In this episode, Dr. Yael Schonbrun interviews Dr. Schwartz, Professor Emeritus at Swarthmore College, and a current Lecturer at Haas School of Business, U.C. Berkeley. Dr. Schwartz dives into a discussion of his writing on the ways that practical wisdom has been diminished in our modern society, and how to overcome these challenges and nurture your own internal wisdom.
About Dr. Barry Schwartz
Dr. Schwartz received his Ph.D. from the University of Pennsylvania, and was a professor of psychology at Swarthmore College from 1971 until 2016; he is currently a visiting professor at UC Berkeley. Dr. Schwartz studies the intersection of psychology and economics, with a focus is on how we make decisions, develop wisdom, and why we work. His three TED talks have been viewed millions of times and he has published numerous scientific articles and popular press books. Download some of Dr. Schwartz’s scientific papers. You can also link to his popular books, The Paradox of Choice (2004), Practical Wisdom (2010), and Why We Work (2015).
Resources
Watch Dr. Schwartz’s talk on Practical Wisdom on TEDWatch Dr. Schwartz’s talk on the Paradox of Choice on TEDCheck out Dr. Schwartz’s book, Practical Wisdom: The Right Thing to Do The Right Thing
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Jun 5, 2018 • 29min
47. Meet The Hosts
Want To Learn More About The Psychologists Off The Clock Co-Hosts Curious About Why We Do This Podcast? Interested In Hearing About Our Career Paths And Our Lives Outside Of Work? Join Us For A Very Special Episode With Our Co-Hosts, Drs. Debbie Sorensen, Diana Hill, And Yael Schonbrun!
In this episode, we welcome our new co-host Dr. Yael Schonbrun! Yael is an assistant professor at Brown University, a clinical psychologist in private practice, writer, and mother of three. Yael, Debbie and Diana share about the values we are living by doing this podcast, our background and training in clinical psychology, and our careers when we are "on the clock."
Listen and Learn
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Click Here to Learn More About the POTC Co-hosts!
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