Psychologists Off the Clock

Debbie Sorensen, Jill Stoddard, Yael Schonbrun, Michael Herold & Emily Edlynn
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Jan 13, 2026 • 59min

442. The 6th Stage of Grief with David Kessler

In this engaging discussion, David Kessler, a renowned grief expert and author, shares his journey through profound personal loss, including the death of his son. He explores grief beyond just loss, emphasizing its connection to love and identity changes. Kessler introduces meaning as a sixth stage of grief, advocating for community support and understanding the non-linear nature of healing. He also highlights the importance of rituals and continuing bonds with loved ones, reminding us that addressing grief can lead to transformative growth.
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Jan 6, 2026 • 55min

441. Having It All with Corinne Low

In this engaging conversation, Corinne Low, an associate professor at the Wharton School and author of Having It All, dives into the complexities women face in balancing career and family. She explores how structural barriers and unequal home labor affect women's careers and earnings. Corinne debunks myths about women's competitiveness and offers practical strategies for negotiating better workplace outcomes. She emphasizes redefining success based on personal values and staying intentional about time to find true fulfillment.
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Dec 31, 2025 • 57min

440. The Creativity Choice with Zorana Ivcevic Pringle

Zorana Ivcevic Pringle, a senior research scientist at the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence and author of The Creativity Choice, dives into the expansive concept of creativity beyond traditional arts. She shares how everyday life is filled with creative opportunities and emphasizes the importance of embracing discomfort to fuel innovative thinking. Zorana discusses the role of emotions in creativity, highlighting that both positive and negative feelings serve as valuable data. Moreover, she offers insights on overcoming creative blocks and the significance of community in the creative process.
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Dec 26, 2025 • 44min

439. Reflection and Creativity in the New Year: A Cohost Episode

As the new year begins, the hosts explore the powerful role of creativity in enhancing well-being. They share reflective exercises to help listeners process the past year, including recalling meaningful moments and learning from experiences. The conversation highlights how creativity can be a lifeline, from managing life's ups and downs to connecting with others. Personal stories of triumph and the importance of focusing on the creative process serve as inspiration for embracing the year ahead with intention and joy.
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Dec 16, 2025 • 51min

438. The Hypocrisy Trap with Michael Hallsworth

We’ve all rolled our eyes at someone's behavior, only to realize, uncomfortably, that we’ve done the same. Join Yael in this conversation discussing this very common human experience with Michael Hallsworth, the author of The Hypocrisy Trap. Michael breaks down the nature of hypocrisy, including its historical origin and why it is such a prevalent issue in our lives and in politics. You’ll also hear how societal norms and personal biases can play into our confrontations with hypocrisy and take away effective strategies to minimize it in your daily interactions. Check it out if you want a new take on this age-old problem and why understanding it can lead to more authentic and trusting relationships. Listen and Learn:Understanding hypocrisy as a judgment we make about inconsistencies The surprising origin of the word “hypocrite” and how its meaning evolvedWhy hypocrisy isn’t always bad and how to balance consistency and context in our actionsHow calling out hypocrisy can backfire, creating more of it, and making the term lose meaning, while revealing surprising insights about human behaviorWhy we’re often blind to our own double standards in relationships and how our perception of intentions gives us more leniency for ourselves than for othersWhy a level of hypocrisy is inevitable in democratic politicsIs tolerating some political and personal hypocrisy necessary, even when it feels uncomfortable to do so?Strategies to understand, reduce, and respond to hypocrisy, and learning why shifting how we view inconsistency can lead to less cynicism and more meaningful changeResourcesMichael’s Website: https://www.michaelhallsworth.com/The Hypocrisy Trap: How Changing What We Criticize Can Improve Our Lives on Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780262050944 The Hypocrisy Trap on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Hypocrisy-Trap-Changing-Criticize-Improve Practical Wisdom by Kenneth Sharpe and Barry Schwartz: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781594485435 About Michael HallsworthDr. Michael Hallsworth, author of The Hypocrisy Trap. Michael has spent two decades applying behavioral science to real-world problems, teaching at places like UPenn, Princeton, and Columbia. And he's taken all that academic knowhow to help design better policies and services for governments and organizations around the world.Related Episodes:Episode 48. Practical WisdomEpisode 51. The Psychology of Political DivisionEpisode 362. Adult Bullies and High Conflict PeopleEpisode 392. Outraged with Kurt GrayHow to Change with Katy MilkmanSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Dec 9, 2025 • 58min

437. Wise Effort with Diana Hill

Are you wisely using your genius energy? In this episode, Michael reconnects with Diana Hill, a therapist and author who has recently explored the concept of focusing your genius energy on what matters most through her book Wise Effort.Their discussion spans from insights from ancient Buddhist wisdom to the application of commitment therapy to the practice of finding one's unique 'genius energy.' If you’re interested in practical ways to maximize your strengths, handle emotional challenges, and cultivate a meaningful and balanced life, you’ll want to join them to unearth actionable tips and exercises for making the most out of your efforts and ultimately enhancing your well-being.Listen and Learn: What is “Wise Effort” and how can this practice reshape your energy, choices, and well-being?Identifying and using your unique “genius energy” while also recognizing how overusing those strengths can become a stumbling block, and how cultivating awareness, curiosity, and context helps direct those strengths with wisdomPractical self-reflection questions to uncover your geniusA simple four-question “energy audit” for knowing when to dial your genius up or downWhere true wisdom really comes from, and what if rethinking how growth happensAdopting “Wise Effort” helps you understand your struggles in context, align your actions with your values, and transform both self-judgment and relationshipsBringing mindful intention to even mundane tasks to transform how you use your time, connect with yourself, and balance structure with flexibility in a meaningful lifeResources: Wise Effort: How to Focus Your Genius Energy on What Matters Most: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781649633361 Diana’s Website: drdianahill.comConnect with Diana on Social Media: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdianahillhttps://www.facebook.com/drdianahill/https://www.youtube.com/drdianahillhttps://www.instagram.com/drdianahill/https://insighttimer.com/drdianahill FREE Energy Audit guide: https://drdianahill.com/energy Wise Effort: The Business Of Therapy Program: https://drdianahill.com/wise-effort-the-business-of-therapy Michael’s Real Play Episode on The Wise Effort Podcast: https://wiseeffortshow.com/episode/living-life-on-your-own-terms-with-michael-herold-real-play About Diana HillDr. Diana Hill, PhD is a clinical psychologist, author, international trainer, and recognized expert in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), compassion-based interventions, and psychological flexibility. With a background that bridges neuroscience, mindfulness, and behavioral science, she is known for making complex psychological concepts both practical and inspiring.A summa cum laude graduate of the University of California, Santa Barbara, where she majored in Biopsychology, Dr. Hill earned her doctoral degree in Clinical Psychology from the University of Colorado at Boulder. She later collaborated with Dr. Debra Safer at Stanford University, researching Dialectical Behavior Therapy and Appetite Awareness Training (AAT) for bulimia nervosa. She completed her clinical internship at the University of California, Davis, followed by a postdoctoral fellowship at La Luna Intensive Outpatient Center, where she later served as Clinical Director and developed their ACT- and AAT-based treatment program.A leading voice in the evolution of ACT and Process-Based Therapy, Dr. Hill works closely with pioneers in the field. She co-leads ACT BootCamp Training for Therapists with ACT founder Dr. Steven Hayes and is actively involved in shaping the future of therapy—including applications of AI, advances in diagnostic systems, network modeling, and process-based approaches. She serves as a senior meditation teacher and curriculum developer for the University of California’s Climate Resilience Initiative, integrating ACT and mindfulness into interdisciplinary environmental education.Dr. Hill has contributed to publications in the International Journal of Eating Disorders and co-authored a seminal article on Process-Based Therapy, advancing evidence-based clinical practice. She is a contributor to PsychFlex, a digital platform that helps clinicians incorporate ACT into their work and track client outcomes in real time through ecological measurements. She also speaks regularly at global conferences including the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS) World Conference, Innovations in Psychotherapy, and the Evolution of Psychotherapy Conference.In addition to her clinical and academic work, Dr. Hill teaches at organizations and retreat centers such as InsightLA, Blue Spirit Costa Rica, PESI, and PraxisCET. She serves on the clinical advisory board of Lightfully Behavioral Health and is a board member of the Institute for Better Health.She is the author of Wise Effort: How to Focus Your Genius Energy on What Matters Most (Sounds True, 2025), The Self-Compassion Daily Journal, I Know I Should Exercise But…, and ACT Daily Journal. Her insights have been featured in NPR, The Wall Street Journal, Psychology Today, Mindful, Prevention, Real Simple, Woman’s Day, and other leading media outlets. She is also the host of the Wise Effort podcast.With more than 20 years of study and practice in yoga and meditation—including training in the tradition of Thich Nhat Hanh—Dr. Hill integrates contemplative practice into her approach to healing and growth. She lives in California, where she raises two sons, cares for bees, and embodies the Wise Effort principles she teaches—living a life guided by presence, purpose, and compassion.Related Episodes:48. Practical Wisdom with Barry Schwartz349. The Hunger Habit with Judson Brewer188. Unwinding Anxiety with Judson Brewer122. Taking in the Good with Rick Hanson138. Exploring Existence and Purpose: Existentialism with Robyn Walser320. Anger and Forgiveness with Robyn Walser346. Self-compassion Daily Journal with Diana Hill301. Seven Daily ACT Practices for Living Fully with Diana Hill and Debbie SorensenSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Dec 3, 2025 • 57min

436. Consent Laid Bare with Chanel Contos

How can we reshape the understanding of consent and more effectively address the widespread problem of sexual violence? Start by joining Jill for a conversation with award-winning activist Chanel Contos, who is bringing attention to the complexities of consent, sexual coercion, and rape culture through her book Consent Laid Bare. Chanel’s pioneering work in making consent education mandatory in Australia shows what’s possible and what could be achieved worldwide.We invite you to listen in to broaden your knowledge about gender norms, the dangers of low empathy and high entitlement, practical steps to foster empathy in young people, and much more. This is a crucial conversation that has the potential to make a huge difference in everyone's lives.Listen to POTC ad-free for just $5 a month by becoming a Mega Supporter on Patreon! Or, support the podcast with a one-time donation at Buy Me A Coffee!Listen and Learn: Chanel’s personal experiences with early consent education and witnessing systemic injustice that led to the creation of Teach Us Consent?Why clear, affirmative consent is understood as the active seeking of an enthusiastic “yes,” rather than simply the absence of a “no” Distinguishing between different categories of rapeDoes the normalization of misogyny and the lack of social consequences contribute to rape culture and make sexual assault socially acceptable within peer groups and broader society?How language and metaphors, like the “blueberry” analogy, reveal the hidden social dynamics where men benefit from gendered power structuresHow language shapes recognition of sexual assault and why survivors of coercion or subtle rape struggle to label their experience as “rape”The classification of sexual violence and shifting from focusing on the victim’s response to examining the perpetrator’s intentHow trauma responses like fawning and hypersexuality can explain why survivors continue contact with perpetrators and challenge misconceptions about consentHow can parents and adults support young people in navigating online sexual content and consent by having open, shame-free conversations early, rather than relying on abstinence messagesRaising boys’ empathy to match girls’ and reduce entitlement, creating a culture where consent and respect are normalizedResources: Chanel’s Book, Consent Laid Bare: Sex, Entitlement, and the Distortion of Desire: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780063449381 For More About Chanel’s Work, Visit: https://www.teachusconsent.com/https://www.teachusconsent.com/resources#PodcastsTeach Us Consent Podcast Series: https://www.teachusconsent.com/resources#Podcasts Connect with Chanel on Social Media:https://x.com/Chanelcontoshttps://www.instagram.com/chanelc/https://www.linkedin.com/in/chanel-contoshttps://www.tiktok.com/@chanazc About Chanel ContosChanel Contos is an international award-winning activist and the founder of Teach Us Consent, a campaign that successfully mandated consent education across Australia and led to the criminalisation of stealthing in multiple states. She holds a Master’s in Education, Gender, and International Development from University College London and is currently completing a Master of Public Policy at the University of Oxford.In 2022, Chanel was named by the BBC as one of the 100 most inspiring and influential women worldwide. Her work has received global attention, with coverage from the BBC, The New York Times, France24, and numerous other international outlets.Related Episodes19. Keeping Children Safe from Sexual Abuse with Feather Berkower84. Courageous Conversations to Prevent Childhood Sexual Abuse with Feather Berkower163. The Likeability Trap with Alicia Menendez198. Break the Good Girl Myth with Majo Molfino272. Middle School Matters with Phyllis Fagell305. The Power of Saying No with Vanessa Patrick390. Raising Empowered Girls in a Sexist World with Jo-Ann Finkelstein421. Defy with Sunita SahSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Nov 26, 2025 • 60min

436. How to Winter with Kari Leibowitz

Kari Leibowitz, a health psychologist and author, shares her transformation from a winter hater to an advocate for embracing the cold months. She discusses her research in Arctic contexts and how mindsets profoundly impact well-being during winter. Kari emphasizes recognizing both challenges and joys of the season, rejecting toxic positivity. She provides practical strategies to thrive in winter, including intentional lighting and engaging in seasonal hobbies. Listeners will find insightful ways to shift their winter narratives and enhance their enjoyment of this often-overlooked time.
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Nov 19, 2025 • 1h 1min

434. How Trust Works with Peter H. Kim

Peter H. Kim, a professor at USC Marshall School of Business, dives deep into the intricacies of trust based on his two decades of research. He reveals why trust is vital despite vulnerability, distinguishing between true trust and mere appearances of trustworthiness. Kim outlines how trust violations can stem from competence or integrity issues and discusses the significance of effective apologies. He emphasizes the importance of exploring context in trust breaches and highlights the role of shared values in rebuilding connections.
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Nov 11, 2025 • 58min

433. Rethinking Screens and Video Games with Ash Brandin

Ash Brandin, also known as The Gamer Educator, shares her expertise as an educator and author of Power On. She discusses the importance of viewing screen time through a lens of moral neutrality, encouraging parents to focus on purpose rather than guilt. Brandin critiques outdated guidelines, advocating for personalized family media plans. She explores how gaming can fulfill psychological needs and emphasizes the societal factors influencing screen use. With practical strategies, Ash aims to guide families towards a balanced approach to screen time.

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