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Get ready for a weekly dose of all things Enterprise Software and Cloud Computing! Join us as we dive into topics including Kubernetes, DevOps, Serverless, Security and Coding. Plus, we’ll keep you entertained with plenty of off-topic banter and nonsense. Don’t worry if you miss the latest industry conference - we’ve got you covered with recaps of all the latest news from AWS, Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud Platform (GCP) and the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF).
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Jul 16, 2020 • 55min
Episode 247: Richard Seroter on App Modernization
On this episode Brandon interviews Richard Seroter from Google. They discuss Richard's career, Product Management & Marketing, Google Anthos and what App Modernization really means. Plus, Richard tells us how a doctor removes a wedding ring when you have a fractured finger.
Mentioned on the Show
Richard joins Google
Richard on the web
Blog: Richard Seroter's Architecture Musings
Twitter: @rseroter
LinkedIn: seroter
Phote CreditSpecial Guest: Richard Seroter.

Jul 11, 2020 • 1h 3min
Episode 246: Istio-washing, 20 domain names, .docx
We discuss: the trademark moves of Google; open source skullduggery; why Slack has the upper-hand on Teams…or not?; and Coté’s growing love of .docx files.
Mood board:
I read a lot of Wikipedia when I should be working
After all this, time people probably think that whatever you’re doing is “working.”
Did you respond with an emoji thumbs-up?
I read the email. Thought about it for a few hours. Then thought “I’m just going to archive that email.”
He’s big in the Angular community - works all the angels.
Little components that talk with each other over the network. Gotta do a whole bunch of shit for that.
You don’t sue people who are using it if you want them to use it.
Service mesh is Greek for “service mesh.”
Lady Cathemhouse’s Rules.
Chekhov’s Trademark.
Couple thousand stores.
…and maybe integrate with their Active Directory.
“Federated Slacks.”
I think I like the Word file.
No one can poop all over your stuff in a way that you forgot what it looked like when it was clean.
De-headwind yourself from the COVID.
I’m mad about The Edit by Default.
I can’t find my tongs, they’ve gone somewhere.
I wouldn’t say that I’d recommend it, I’m just saying I enjoy it.
The Rundown
Commons cause: IBM, Oracle, CNCF protest over Google's handling of Istio governance
SUSE corrals Rancher Labs
SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs
SUSE acquires Kubernetes management platform Rancher Labs
Linux company SUSE outbids competitors for fast-growing start-up Rancher Labs
Slack
The Slack Social Network
swyx Writing | Slack is Fumbling Developers
Slack acquires SaaS start-up Rimeto
State of Developer Relations 2020 Report
Redis
The end of the Redis adventure
New Governance for Redis | Redis Labs
Relevant to your interests
Tim Bray Blogs
Anti monopoly
Amazon profit from AWS
A Cloud PR FAQ
Break up Google
Why Buybacks & Boeing are Public Enemy Number One (w/ Dr. William Lazonick)
iOS 14 Snitches on LinkedIn and Reddit's Snooping Practices
Quibbi Gossip
Third Base | No Mercy / No Malice
Uber Buys Postmates for $2.65 Billion
Digital Contact Tracing's Mixed Record Abroad Spells Trouble for US Efforts to Rein in COVID-19
FBI Opens a New China-Related Counterintelligence Investigation Every 10 Hours, Director Says
Oracle: Low Revenue Growth And Excessive Buybacks Have Pushed Oracle Out Of Competition
The collaborative browser based IDE
How to add a README to your GitHub profile
Nonsense
How to make incredible juicy burgers from extra lean ground beef
The Blue Label Burger Blend Recipe
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Conferences
Kubecon + CloudNativeCon Virtual Conference on August 17th-20th
SDT news & hype
Listen to the Adam Jacob Interview on Open Source
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram or LinkedIn
Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast. Check out the back catalog.
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Brandon: The Missing
Matt Ray: Watchmen
Coté: Oatly Milk.
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Jul 3, 2020 • 1h 5min
Episode 245: Michael Coté’s Discount Webinar Barn, aka, The Webinar Episode
Come with us as we solve life’s greatest mystery: lead-genless webinars. Coté also gives his 10 day in review of Hey email. Also, theories on grilling hamburgers.
Mood board:
They got money, kicking out the Nazis
Have you tried saying it louder?
It came out fine.
The burger meat here is like a bunch of little worms.
Long form commercials.
Webinar as conference.
Sitting in a Zoom.
People don’t want to show up and consensually watch a YouTube video.
The Wine Bottle Leads.
The Minecraft Yellers.
The pink slurry of enterprise software content.
There’s nothing at the bottom of their funnel.
I know all those things, I just don’t like them.
HigherGradeWebinars.biz
The conclusion of the plutes.
Today was the last day of school for the kids. Tomorrow, the nightmare begins.
The Rundown
The New Conference
Apple’s virtual WWDC wasn’t just okay—it could be the future of keynotes
Google Next over 9 Weeks
In the first cohort of HEY signups, 37% have converted to a paid account!
Relevant to your interests
Email Is Broken
Analysis: Here are five strategic options for Dell and VMware
Arm Macs and AMD rising: How Intel's endless 10nm struggles cost it so much
US police using Chinese drones are ‘at risk’ of data breach, DHS warns
Amazon jumps into self-driving taxis with purchase of Zoox
Discord Was Once The Alt-Right’s Favorite Chat App. Now It’s Gone Mainstream And Scored A New $3.5 Billion Valuation
Your Place to Talk
An Infrastructure Arms Race Is Fueling the Future of Gaming
Ranking the Observability Offerings - APM Experts
Flying
Secret Flying | Cheap Flights & Error Fares
Jack's Flight Club | Cheap Flights, Flight Deals & Alerts
Interactive Route Map of Low Cost Airline flights in Europe
Alternative Airlines | Book Flights on 100s of Airlines
Nonsense
Coming soon to a 3D printer near you: Plant-based steaks
Big Red soda is the secret to make deliciously tender smoked pork chops
Conferences
Kubecon + CloudNativeCon Virtual Conference on August 17th-20th
SDT news & hype
Listen to interview with Kylie Grenier about Digital Transformation
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram or LinkedIn
Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast. Check out the back catalog.
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Brandon: Land of the Giants podcast.
Matt Ray: Cory Doctorow’s Walkaway.
Coté: Euro breakfast on the go.

Jun 30, 2020 • 1h 6min
Episode 244: Kylie Grenier on Digital Transformation
Brandon interviews Kylie Grenier from DXC Technology. They discuss Kylie's experience in leading digital transformation in the public sector, her time as a Cloud Futurist at Cisco and how she helps clients build digital transformation strategies today. Plus, Kylie offers some tips on how to get a new job.
Kylie on the web
Twitter: @CurrentKylie
LinkedIn: kyliegrenier
Image creditSpecial Guest: Kylie Grenier.

Jun 26, 2020 • 1h 6min
Episode 243: This one goes out to all the cross-country truckers
Extracting configs with awk, Apple announces stuff, and salad dressing. That’s the topics. Mostly.
Mood board:
One
How come Slack doesn’t have a DropBox yet?
I got the Call Recorder!
Brand Police.
You’d get to do a lot of writing, but you’d get a lot of editing.
Dunning Keurig
Yeet your email.
I don’t know where it comes from, but my kids got me saying it.
People just throwing tickets into the wind.
Awk yeah
You should sanitize your inputs every day, Matt Ray.
I’ve been treating Apple news like Star Wars news.
The Builders.
We got piles of clip art.
Elfin robot children on a sea of green binary.
MacOS 11.1, “Green Goddess”
There’s only one MC who talks about space and cross-country truck driving.
Watch the get to school on time tapes.
John Irving Parenting.
Until then, I’ll just ground him from his iPad.
The Rundown
Kool Keith interview: “I’m dis-attached from reality on my own terms.”
Luxury Email
Cote reviews HEY
Outlook update: e works in the Mac desktop app.
Superhuman’s email app is overhyped and overpriced
Basecamp is good at PR — How Basecamp bent Apple
Wait — Slack is killing email with Slack Connect
M&A
ServiceNow to acquire Belgian configuration management startup Sweagle
Not sure about people who use the word “infra.”
I think it’s a configuration store that plugs into CI pipelines - sort of like a ConfigMap for Jenkins.
“SWEAGLE provides a quality gate for your configuration data. Includes versioning, management, and validation of all types of config data.” https://github.com/jenkinsci/sweagle-plugin
It will run validates to make sure the hostname is valid, there are no empty values, etc. Has a JavaScript SDK for writing validation code.
ServiceNow integration that extracts confit from CMDB. https://github.com/sweagleExpert/integrations/tree/master/ServiceNow
Microsoft confirms acquisition of CyberX to boost security in its Azure IoT business
Apple has acquired Fleetsmith, a startup that helps IT manage Apple devices remotely
Apple Talk
Apple will let you emulate old apps and run iOS apps on ARM Macs – TechCrunch
The End of OS X
Apple Docker Tweet
Apple is switching Macs to its own processors starting later this year
Are you actually changing?
Relevant to your interests
Google pushes “text fragment links” with new Chrome extension
Spotmicro - robot dog by KDY0523
The Segway’s Inventor Has a New Project: Manufacturing Human Organs
Fortnite’s new season has flooded the map
The Next Step for Mixer - From the Myxer
Announcing the HashiCorp Cloud Platform
WSJ News Exclusive | Dell Explores Spinoff of $50 Billion Stake in VMware
Amazon is looking to add live TV to Prime Video
kelseyhightower/nocode
Containers to capture 15 percent of all enterprise apps across 75 percent of business by 2024
Inside the Baffling World of Masayoshi Son's Presentations
Nonsense
Chocolate Digestives
Scottish Man tries Southern Snacks
Emoji Search Finally Coming to iOS in iOS 14
Not enough public toilets in Amsterdam especially for women, wheelchair users
BYE
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Conferences
Kubecon + CloudNativeCon Virtual Conference on August 17th-20th
SDT news & hype
Listen to interview with Brian Gracely
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram or LinkedIn
Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast. Check out the back catalog.
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Brandon: **The Data Coach - Against the Rules with Michael Lewis; Trust Fall : Invisibilia.
****- Matt Ray: The Coup: Party Music
Coté: Razer Kiyo.
Outro: "Livin' Astro," Kool Keith.Sponsored By:strongDM: Manage and audit remote access to infrastructure. Start your free 14-day trial today at: strongdm.com/SDT.

Jun 22, 2020 • 53min
Episode 242: Brian Gracely on OpenShift
On this episode Brandon interviews Brian Gracely from Red Hat. They discuss Brian's early career at Cisco, his experience with OpenStack, why he joined Red Hat and what's happening with OpenShift. Plus, Brian tells us what it's like to be a VP of Product at a startup and recommends some College Football Podcasts to get us through the off season.
Mentioned on the Show
Solid Verbal
The Andy Staples Show
The POPCAST with Dan POP
OpenShift
learn.openshift.com
demo.openshift.com
try.openshfit.com
Brian on the web
Podcast: The Cloudcast
Twitter: @bgracely
LinkedIn: briangracely
Special Guest: Brian Gracely.

Jun 19, 2020 • 1h 8min
Episode 241: Ask more questions, send more one line emails
Can email ever be fixed, or is GMail good enough? We discuss. Plus, Coté complains about how he should probably start asking more questions instead of answering them at length. Also, we don’t know what a “digestive” is and do not recommend the Mexican bakery pastries.
Mood board:
I’m perfectly willing to burn my own time on boondoggles.
I introduced my kids to King of the Hill yesterday - they did not like it. Or Beavis and Butthead, or South Park.
How many instructions are in the ARM chip?
Are we gonna start the show?
That looks boring.
What is a biscuit in Australia? A hazy space between crackers and cookies.
More sugar than a Ritz
It’s a medical grade cookie.
The Mexican Bakery Trap.
Just get the tacos.
Hey!
I’ve got 500 email addresses, how am I supposed to disappear?
I think there’s like, 12, 13 calendars on my Mac.
We got to the bottom of HEY!
Marketing Oblique Strategies.
The Seth Godin problem.
The Purple Moo.
Welcome to the Halo Effect.
For your 6 to 50 page strategy memo, email me at cote@hey.com.
You didn’t make a TV show that people wanted to watch.
The Rundown
Hey, do we need a new email service?
Hey is a wildly opinionated new email service from the makers of Basecamp
DHH calls Apple a monopoly
Market Power
Apple’s App Store policies are bad, but its interpretation and enforcement are worse
Apple’s App Store fees are "highway robbery," says House Antitrust Committee chair
Google brings Meet to Gmail on mobile
Hey Larry Ellison: Microsoft’s #1 Priority Is Replacing Oracle Database
Epic Games seeking to sell stake for $750 million at $17 billion valuation
Too much typing from Coté, from Coté’s newsletter last week.
Relevant to your interests
Softbank invested in Credit Suisse funds financing its Vision Fund bets.
Nintendo now says 300,000 accounts breached by hackers.
Big Footy data breach exposed private details of up to 100,000 users.
Adobe Flash Player End of Life.
Dropbox officially launches its own password manager and a secure vault for your files.
Boston Dynamics will now sell any business its own Spot robot for $74,500.
Panera adds geofencing to curbside pickup.
T-Mobile offers an explanation for its twelve-hour outage on Monday.
Zoom will offer full encryption to free users after all.
Amazon asks court to block former AWS marketing VP from working on Google Cloud Next speeches.
Nonsense
Toilet advocates plead for more public facilities during corona.
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Listener Feedback
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Sent stickers to Daniel in Vancouver. He tell us he loves the show.
Conferences
Kubecon + CloudNativeCon Virtual Conference on August 17th-20th
SDT moment of bureaucracy
Listen to interview with Todd Gardner
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram or LinkedIn
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Brandon: USPS Informed Delivery and 1917
Matt Ray: Massive Attack vs Mad Professor Part II (Mezzanine Remix Tapes ’98). Humble Fight for Racial Justice Bundle.
Coté: Short Life in a Strange World, short review in Coté’s newsletter last week. KUTX streaming.
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Jun 15, 2020 • 1h 9min
Episode 240: Todd Gardner on building Web Apps with JavaScript
Brandon interviews Todd Gardner from TrackJS. They discuss Todd's career and how his consulting projects led him to start TrackJS. Plus, Todd offers advice on how to build web apps using JavaScript and how to decide which JS Framework is right for your next project. His answer may surprise you...
Show Links
Lemon
OVHCloud
Contact Todd
Twitter: @toddhgardner
Company: TrackJS
Latest Project: Request Metrics
Email: todd@trackjs.com
Personal Website: todd.mn
Photo by Tim Mossholder on UnsplashSpecial Guest: Todd Gardner.

Jun 12, 2020 • 1h 9min
Episode 239: Coté got up at 2am
We dream of video conferencing in Zoom, ask whatever happened to Big Data, discuss how little agile practices are followed despite their proven success, and contemplate the meaninglessness of Apple moving to ARM. Also, how to prioritize those early morning calls with Singapore.
Mood board:
Is that guacamole talk Amazon approved?
Why don’t you listen to a few episodes?
“What generation did they have in the Black Plague?”
I have a lot of thoughts on OmniFocus and Evernote. Note gonna talk about it.
The Timezone Tax.
We win video conferencing bingo!
Video conferencing Magic Quadrant.
Remember Blue Jeans!
They’re gonna go to The Big Data.
Hadoop: not as big as we once thought it would be.
Grocery store magazine agile.
The only thing that’s shocking, is that we’re still shocked.
The Rundown
Coté got up at 2am.
Slack and Amazon
Amazon licenses Slack for all employees, while Slack adopts AWS video-calling tech
Slack partners with Amazon to take on Microsoft Teams
Who Will Acquire Zoom: Amazon, Oracle, or IBM?
Chiming in on Slack with Sid Rao - Last Week in AWS
This is going to get ugly, real fast.
Google Meet Switches On Jaw-Dropping Feature To Beat Zoom & Microsoft Teams
Cloudera to Explore Sale After Receiving Takeover Interest
what happened with Big Data?
State of Agile Survey:
Coté’s choice cuts.
Practices followed, benefits achieved.
CI/CD still not widely practiced.
Low TDD.
Apple and ARM
Apple will announce move to ARM-based Macs later this month, says report
Apple plans to announce ARM transition for all Macs at WWDC 2020
Sinofsky: Apple going to bring ARM to chips to Mac
Relevant to your interests
VMware acquires network security firm Lastline, said to lay off 40% of staff – TechCrunch
Red Hat CEO Paul Cormier Talks About IBM and His Vision for the Future
Canonical pushes out MicroK8s installer for Mac and Windows, with Multipass VM tech lurking behind the scenes
Apple releases new open source 'Password Manager Resources' project for developers - 9to5Mac
Unity, the $6.3 billion startup that quietly powers some of the biggest video games in the world, is reportedly ramping up for an IPO as soon as this year
Germany, France launch Gaia-X platform in bid for ‘tech sovereignty’
States are leaning toward a push to break up Google's ad tech business
Why boring is the way forward for businesses
Three Reasons Why Companies Are Creating Their Own Open Source Consortium - Software Research and the Industry
sickcodes/Docker-OSX
Container technologies at Coinbase
Rackspace Technology: New Name, Continued Multi-Cloud Services, Eventual IPO?
Amazon sues former AWS marketing VP Brian Hall after he takes Google Cloud job
Migrate for Anthos streamlines legacy Java app modernization | Google Cloud Blog
IBM Cloud suffers prolonged outage
The RuboCop Name Drama Redux
Microsoft: Rust Is the Industry’s ‘Best Chance’ at Safe Systems Programming
## Nonsense
8 things that surprised me about moving from the US to the UK
New Sims 4 patch adds ladders but also a bug where Sims pee fire
Sponsor
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Conferences
Kubecon + CloudNativeCon Virtual Conference on August 17th-20th
SDT news & hype
Listen to the Shannon Williams interview from earlier this week.
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram or LinkedIn
Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast. Check out the back catalog.
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Brandon: Listen to the Shannon Williams SDT interview from earlier this week.
Matt Ray: TuringPi.com
Coté: Marten Beck; Mindless mining in Minecraft; Solar Dial in Apple Watch.
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Jun 9, 2020 • 50min
Episode 238: Shannon Williams on Kubernetes-as-a-Service
Brandon interviews Shannon Williams from Rancher Labs. They discuss Shannon's journey from journalism to startup founder and how Rancher delivers Kubernetes-as-a-Service. Plus, Shannon recommends his top ski resort in North America and reveals who really decided to buy the cloud.com domain.
Contact Shannon:
Twitter: smw355
LinkedIn: smw355
Photo by boris misevic on UnsplashSpecial Guest: Shannon Williams.


